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Me | 4APR05 | Long Cut

Posted on 04/04/2005 8:07:34 PM PDT by Long Cut

Well, that time has come for me. I’m leaving FR. However, I do not consider this an “opus”, as I am NOT going to use it to rehash old slights or arguments, or to give my personal opinion of what “should be done around here”. As has been so often pointed out, this is Jim Robinson’s site, and he runs it as he sees fit. Rather, all I’m going to do here is give a general reason for my departure, and say a hearty-but-sad “GOODBYE!” to all the folks here who have enriched my life in the past four years.

I am a small-government, national-security and military supporting, pro-gun, economic conservative who also likes to enjoy the life I have to its fullest. I believe that the government does its best work when it restricts itself to the things it is supposed to do vis a vis the Constitution. That is, it should restrict itself at this time to shooting terrorists and delivering the mail, as well as doing its level best to ensure that the rights of one citizen are left untrampled by another. I hold that the government should stay as far as possible from any entanglements with religion, organized or not, save to ensure that ALL are treated fairly by the law. I also hold that the government should NOT be in the business of making laws regarding the personal, private behavior of its free citizens, so long as such behavior harms no other.

In these past months, it has become plain to me that this position is NOT that of a majority of FReepers, nor of the management itself. So, rather than “tilt at windmills”, I shall simply go my own way. I have no comments about this circumstance or its origins; it is simply the way I see things.

Also, I have grown as a person on FR. When I first joined, I’d be right in there flaming with the best of ‘em. As the years have past, I have come to realize the value of simple, civil discourse, for it is in that sort of discourse that a man may actually learn things, both about the topic at hand, and about himself and what being a true gentleman means.

As before, in the past months, the majority seems to prefer it to be otherwise. Again, no comments, just stating what I see.

Before I leave, however, I wish to do two things.

First and foremost, I wish to thank Mr. Robinson for providing this site…despite the necessity of leaving now, I have truly learned a great deal here, too much for words. I was able to “vent my spleen” on issues that mattered to me, talk about mutual interests with like-minded people, and get to know some absolutely terrific folks. Mr. Robinson, you did a good job. Sorry indeed am I that I must part ways. Nonetheless, as one old Sailor to another, “Fair Winds And Following Seas, Shipmate!”

Second, I wish to thank, and bid farewell to, some of the most outstanding people it has ever been my pleasure and honor to know.

- The folks over at the FReeper Canteen, shepherded by 68-69tonkingulfyachtclub. I was drawn to the Canteen almost on my first day here, as there exists there an outpouring of support and affection for this nation’s military (of which I am a part) the likes of which have seldom seen equal. From the first, they took me in as if I were one of their own families, and the regular posters there were with me with prayers and support, as well as joy and salutes, through many dark days indeed, and many bright ones.

I am an agnostic, religiously, but that did not matter to my Canteen Friends…they were there with prayers and, well, love when my wife and I lost our first baby. They shared in the joy we had when we finally had a healthy son. They prayed again, selflessly, for me when I went on deployment. Then, they welcomed me home again with open arms, and more prayers, as I came home to bury my dear mother. In doing this for someone they knew was not religious himself, and in doing it without any hesitation, they showed a non-believer the BEST side of Christianity one could possibly ask for. To the Canteen, including Ms. Behavin, Ms. Poohbear, La diva loca, trussel, Tonk, Spotsy, Bentfeather, KathyinAlaska, and all the rest too numerous to name, I say without any sense of irony at all, “BLESS YOU”.

- The many unbelievably intelligent scientists and science-lovers over on the Crevo and science threads, ably pinged by PatrickHenry. From you ladies and gentlemen of BOTH sides, I have expanded my scientific knowledge and thinking by an order of magnitude. Ichneumon, Vade, Junior, Radio Astronomer, Right wing Professor, Betty Boop, Alamo-Girl, and all the rest of the maniacs over there made it an edifying experience that could never have been acquired in a school.

- The HTT list. I thoroughly enjoyed the times we spent “raisin Hell”. Gabz, Formermilitarychick, exnavychick, and the rest shared many a laugh with this old Heathen.

- Archy, Squantos, Travis McGee, Glock Rocks, Joe Brower, criminall number 18f, and all of the guys and gals on the gun or “Bang List threads. I learned a ton of good gouge from you guys over the years. I’m gonna miss you, but with your advice I shan’t miss much else with a pistol!

- The Republican Party Reptiles. The Big B and company showed quite well that not ALL conservatives are stick in the muds. Many of us actually LIKE looking at pretty women in few clothes. B, I hope the party lasts a bit longer fer y’all.

- The WPPFF. Y’all know who you are, and why. All I can say is, we tried. And we tried long past what any normal person would have, to our credit.

- My individual Friends…DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet, Veronica, peach, the incomparable PukinDog, Wild Turkey, and about a hundred others I could take a couple of days naming. I’ll miss y’all sumpin’ turible.

Anyhoo, this has gotten longer than I ever thought it would. Anyone with me on their ping lists can go ahead and remove my name, if you wish. Those whose wish it is to gloat, say “good riddance”, and other such juvenile nonsense are welcome to begin, thus confirming my reasoning.

‘Bye, all. Godspeed.


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To: LisaMalia
I hear ya! I could disappear from FR forever, and I doubt that anyone would notice or care.

Well, I'll have to do something about that.

You can still get up, but you'll never get out of your chair. >:D

381 posted on 04/04/2005 9:58:37 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Howlin
The Democrats will be storming the gates here in '06 and '08, pretending to be conservatives and calling for Republican defeats due to their "lack of spine" in the Terri Schiavo matter.

Some of them are already here, chumming.

382 posted on 04/04/2005 9:58:48 PM PDT by Chunga (enforces)
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To: Kryptonite; Howlin

Only because the post contained untruths if she did..I saw the post she was answering it contained untruths..Deleted is good.


383 posted on 04/04/2005 9:59:02 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: annyokie
I wasn't called a Nazi once.

You apparently weren't trying hard enough or had not shined your jackboots. It was rampant.

There certainly was too much of it. Yet, I went to a few of those threads and I purposely posted to the posters who were the biggest name callers and made my opinion known that even though I supported Terri, I also supported the rule of law. I could show you the links.

I wasn't called a Nazi once, and my boots are never shined.

384 posted on 04/04/2005 9:59:10 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: sinkspur

Maybe you should read the thread first ,before making such a statement!


385 posted on 04/04/2005 9:59:53 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Mrs.Nooseman
I apologized already, Mrs. nudnik.

Sheesh! Maybe you ought to read the thread, too!!

386 posted on 04/04/2005 10:01:12 PM PDT by sinkspur (Be not afraid. Be not afraid.)
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To: Chunga

IMO, there are plenty of people here already pretending to be conservatives to embarass this site -- and they got a good start on those threads.


387 posted on 04/04/2005 10:01:27 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Chunga
The Democrats will be storming the gates here in '06 and '08, pretending to be conservatives and calling for Republican defeats due to their "lack of spine" in the Terri Schiavo matter.

You better believe it. Not to mention the "I voted for Bush, but Hillary will really do something about the border" posts which we all know are coming.

388 posted on 04/04/2005 10:01:30 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Fledermaus

If I was going to leave, I would just leave and quit posting for awhile. I wouldn't go to the trouble of writing up something if I was that fed up!


389 posted on 04/04/2005 10:02:17 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Wormwood
but Hillary will really do something about the border" posts which we all know are coming.

Oh, I've already read those!

Hillary Republicans!

390 posted on 04/04/2005 10:02:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Long Cut

If you want your voice to be heard, there's no better place than here. You shouldn't leave, or at the least, you should not decide now.

And thank you for your service in uniform.


391 posted on 04/04/2005 10:03:43 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: Chunga
The Democrats will be storming the gates here in '06 and '08, pretending to be conservatives and calling for Republican defeats due to their "lack of spine" in the Terri Schiavo matter.

Of course. They already have a group called "Republicans For Hillary".

392 posted on 04/04/2005 10:03:54 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Fledermaus
Well I love your post- so don't go anywhere ever again! (From one freaking genius to another..LOL)I am going to keep my eye on you from now on!
393 posted on 04/04/2005 10:04:19 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Howlin

I finally requested to be taken off of three ping lists. My reason..."I can't pray with you on one post, and spout hate on another'.


394 posted on 04/04/2005 10:04:52 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: MEG33

And I didn't call her a murderer or a Nazi. :-)


395 posted on 04/04/2005 10:04:57 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Kryptonite

If they lied, they lied. Calling someone a liar when they have lied is not calling names.


396 posted on 04/04/2005 10:05:10 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Howlin

The truth is that you, having called another FReeper a name, are in no position to condemn others whom you claim have done the same thing.

And of course I am simply responding to your post to me - a post flaming me about knowing the truth. You better believe I will respond to your flame and expose it.

I know the truth. I asked you to acknowledge it. You wouldn't. Speaks volumes.


397 posted on 04/04/2005 10:05:13 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Howlin

That's what you are.

You are separating yourselves from the rest of the Forum -- it's called "Splitting."

Almost every post by The WWPPFFers is a whine about how the "theocratic" "nutjob" "wackos" are calling you guys names. Hilariously ironic. If someone calls you a name, call the mods and have the post pulled. Being "victimized" by insults on some threads does NOT give you carte blanche to insult and miscategorize others on every other thread.

Don't you think I'm tired of being called a religious nut who wants to establish a theocracy? I'm Buddhist.

Namecalling on bost sides needs to stop.


398 posted on 04/04/2005 10:05:54 PM PDT by stands2reason (When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
"Republicans For Hillary".

That group's here? We need names.

399 posted on 04/04/2005 10:06:11 PM PDT by silent_jonny
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To: Central Scrutiniser

I am a religious folk and avoided posting at all on those threads..am I also nuts?.I only dared to read the comments in the last few days..I made a great decision IMHO. Many religious folks disagreed on what should be done to save Terri.


400 posted on 04/04/2005 10:08:16 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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