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Me | 4APR05 | Long Cut

Posted on 04/04/2005 8:07:34 PM PDT by Long Cut

Well, that time has come for me. I’m leaving FR. However, I do not consider this an “opus”, as I am NOT going to use it to rehash old slights or arguments, or to give my personal opinion of what “should be done around here”. As has been so often pointed out, this is Jim Robinson’s site, and he runs it as he sees fit. Rather, all I’m going to do here is give a general reason for my departure, and say a hearty-but-sad “GOODBYE!” to all the folks here who have enriched my life in the past four years.

I am a small-government, national-security and military supporting, pro-gun, economic conservative who also likes to enjoy the life I have to its fullest. I believe that the government does its best work when it restricts itself to the things it is supposed to do vis a vis the Constitution. That is, it should restrict itself at this time to shooting terrorists and delivering the mail, as well as doing its level best to ensure that the rights of one citizen are left untrampled by another. I hold that the government should stay as far as possible from any entanglements with religion, organized or not, save to ensure that ALL are treated fairly by the law. I also hold that the government should NOT be in the business of making laws regarding the personal, private behavior of its free citizens, so long as such behavior harms no other.

In these past months, it has become plain to me that this position is NOT that of a majority of FReepers, nor of the management itself. So, rather than “tilt at windmills”, I shall simply go my own way. I have no comments about this circumstance or its origins; it is simply the way I see things.

Also, I have grown as a person on FR. When I first joined, I’d be right in there flaming with the best of ‘em. As the years have past, I have come to realize the value of simple, civil discourse, for it is in that sort of discourse that a man may actually learn things, both about the topic at hand, and about himself and what being a true gentleman means.

As before, in the past months, the majority seems to prefer it to be otherwise. Again, no comments, just stating what I see.

Before I leave, however, I wish to do two things.

First and foremost, I wish to thank Mr. Robinson for providing this site…despite the necessity of leaving now, I have truly learned a great deal here, too much for words. I was able to “vent my spleen” on issues that mattered to me, talk about mutual interests with like-minded people, and get to know some absolutely terrific folks. Mr. Robinson, you did a good job. Sorry indeed am I that I must part ways. Nonetheless, as one old Sailor to another, “Fair Winds And Following Seas, Shipmate!”

Second, I wish to thank, and bid farewell to, some of the most outstanding people it has ever been my pleasure and honor to know.

- The folks over at the FReeper Canteen, shepherded by 68-69tonkingulfyachtclub. I was drawn to the Canteen almost on my first day here, as there exists there an outpouring of support and affection for this nation’s military (of which I am a part) the likes of which have seldom seen equal. From the first, they took me in as if I were one of their own families, and the regular posters there were with me with prayers and support, as well as joy and salutes, through many dark days indeed, and many bright ones.

I am an agnostic, religiously, but that did not matter to my Canteen Friends…they were there with prayers and, well, love when my wife and I lost our first baby. They shared in the joy we had when we finally had a healthy son. They prayed again, selflessly, for me when I went on deployment. Then, they welcomed me home again with open arms, and more prayers, as I came home to bury my dear mother. In doing this for someone they knew was not religious himself, and in doing it without any hesitation, they showed a non-believer the BEST side of Christianity one could possibly ask for. To the Canteen, including Ms. Behavin, Ms. Poohbear, La diva loca, trussel, Tonk, Spotsy, Bentfeather, KathyinAlaska, and all the rest too numerous to name, I say without any sense of irony at all, “BLESS YOU”.

- The many unbelievably intelligent scientists and science-lovers over on the Crevo and science threads, ably pinged by PatrickHenry. From you ladies and gentlemen of BOTH sides, I have expanded my scientific knowledge and thinking by an order of magnitude. Ichneumon, Vade, Junior, Radio Astronomer, Right wing Professor, Betty Boop, Alamo-Girl, and all the rest of the maniacs over there made it an edifying experience that could never have been acquired in a school.

- The HTT list. I thoroughly enjoyed the times we spent “raisin Hell”. Gabz, Formermilitarychick, exnavychick, and the rest shared many a laugh with this old Heathen.

- Archy, Squantos, Travis McGee, Glock Rocks, Joe Brower, criminall number 18f, and all of the guys and gals on the gun or “Bang List threads. I learned a ton of good gouge from you guys over the years. I’m gonna miss you, but with your advice I shan’t miss much else with a pistol!

- The Republican Party Reptiles. The Big B and company showed quite well that not ALL conservatives are stick in the muds. Many of us actually LIKE looking at pretty women in few clothes. B, I hope the party lasts a bit longer fer y’all.

- The WPPFF. Y’all know who you are, and why. All I can say is, we tried. And we tried long past what any normal person would have, to our credit.

- My individual Friends…DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet, Veronica, peach, the incomparable PukinDog, Wild Turkey, and about a hundred others I could take a couple of days naming. I’ll miss y’all sumpin’ turible.

Anyhoo, this has gotten longer than I ever thought it would. Anyone with me on their ping lists can go ahead and remove my name, if you wish. Those whose wish it is to gloat, say “good riddance”, and other such juvenile nonsense are welcome to begin, thus confirming my reasoning.

‘Bye, all. Godspeed.


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To: SC Swamp Fox
If it helps, I was turned off by the tone and content of many of the TS threads. I had to quit reading them, they quickly spiraled into thousand post echo-chambers....Total Chaos. I kept hoping that the mods would reign them in, but I guess they were overwhelmed just like we were.

Well, you have hit upon the very reason WE were in the SBR; for the record, we didn't start out back there; we were in the Bloggers and Personnel forum, but the mods moved it to the SBR.

We were there because we hadn't realized that unless we posted on "the" Terri threads, we weren't suppose to post about it at all, which, of course, explained the never ending parade of posters who came back to tell us what we were doing was wrong and that we were wrong and that we were the FR Death Squad, etc.

Not content to have their OWN threads, they had to ruin the one where everybody ran to avoid being called murderers.

341 posted on 04/04/2005 9:41:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Links to Anti Kerry sites
212 LINKS
News reports,
Viper's Vietnam Veterans Page

http://members.aol.com/ga1449ga/links/links.html


342 posted on 04/04/2005 9:41:55 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: Long Cut

I've always wondered why folks do opuses anyway. Why not just leave and be done with it. I think it has something to do with the attention.


343 posted on 04/04/2005 9:42:07 PM PDT by k2blader (If suicide is immoral, then helping it happen, regardless of motivation, is also immoral.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
The President is being attacked by Hanoi Kerry fanatics.

You've attacked the President on a number of occasions, so, your hands aren't necessarily clean.

344 posted on 04/04/2005 9:42:08 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Kryptonite

WHAT IS IT TO YOU?????????????????????


345 posted on 04/04/2005 9:42:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Mixing religion and politics made for the "perfect storm". It's over now, Howlin, and we've all got to get back to fighting the bigger fight.

Interfamily fights are the nastiest of all because we all know the soft spots, but the fact remains, we are family and we all have the same basic goals.

You're right, it wasn't like this before because we were not this high profile before. Now people know where to come when they want to cause trouble for conservatives.

346 posted on 04/04/2005 9:42:32 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Howlin
WHAT IS IT TO YOU?????????????????????

Real nice.

347 posted on 04/04/2005 9:44:47 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Trinity_Tx
Most of us were not wanting Terri starved, including Long Cut and me. We were just sick of the hysterical rhetoric, the false accusations, and wild-eyed rumors.

I wasn't the only one???

348 posted on 04/04/2005 9:45:10 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: McGavin999
It's over now, Howlin

It sure doesn't look like it; you can't go on ANY thread without it being brought up or somehow related to it.

349 posted on 04/04/2005 9:45:22 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: onyx

Actually, not. Government's number one job is to protect our rights. In both of these examples, government was doing just the opposite. In Elian's case they were depriving him of his right to liberty. And in Terri's case they deprived her of all rights, including the right to life. The government should not have seized Elian and they should not have killed Terri. Just my opinion.


350 posted on 04/04/2005 9:45:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: ladyjane

I hope you don't mind if I object when somebody is grilling me for NO GOOD REASON about a post that was pulled.

I mean, I surely will be worrying about what you think about it.


351 posted on 04/04/2005 9:46:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Long Cut
We will miss your late evening chats. You know where to find us, and you're welcome any time. The very best to Mrs Cut and Short Cut. Thank you, as always. Stay safe out there.


352 posted on 04/04/2005 9:46:17 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ next campaign is Operation 4th of July~)
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To: Krodg

LOL!


353 posted on 04/04/2005 9:46:34 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: BigSkyFreeper; onyx

"You've attacked the President on a number of occasions, so, your hands aren't necessarily clean."

Ask onyx for her opinion.

onyx : Now do you believe that Viet Nam Vets are "useless" since Nov 2nd



354 posted on 04/04/2005 9:46:41 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

I've been referred to as one of those "bible beating" "Christer" "nutjobs" and I'm Buddhist!


355 posted on 04/04/2005 9:47:08 PM PDT by stands2reason (When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Precisely.


356 posted on 04/04/2005 9:47:17 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Kryptonite

If it was deleted, obviously it wasn't something the moderators wanted posted, so why do you want it to be posted again? Do you really think it would make sense for someone to repost something that the moderators deleted? Are you trying to get her banned or something? Obviously she isn't falling for it, so why don't you just leave her alone?


357 posted on 04/04/2005 9:47:38 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: PhiKapMom; B Knotts

Better yet, remember the threads with the UN trucks?


358 posted on 04/04/2005 9:48:19 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Jim Robinson

YES!!!! MR. Robinson.

Grates on me BIG TIME that is was a supposed GOP judge that ORDERED the EVIL DEED.



359 posted on 04/04/2005 9:48:46 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: McGavin999

The white trucks?


360 posted on 04/04/2005 9:49:09 PM PDT by Howlin
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