Posted on 02/19/2005 11:58:48 AM PST by chaco canyon
Religuous people are good people that are being led astray. They are systematically being manipulated to remove the power that they have to use their potent brains. It is easy to believe someone who says he has an alluring answer, an answer that cannot be logically disputed. The fundamental mechanics of religion are the same as a virus. It attacks those that are mentally weakened, and when they are young and suscepable to the concept of magic.
Understanding of the beautiful complexity of the world is opening up to individuals that grasp the complex concepts. The universe seems to be alive and intelligent to those that do not have a closed mind. Religious dogma's do not approach this level of understanding. We live in a remarkable time, where so much is being learned so quickly, we do not yet have time to take it all in, to synthesize this. The vast majority of human problems are caused by human thinking. The religous order hamper human exploration, becuase they believe that they have answers. The intelligent universe seems to be telling us to live sustainably and to grow mentally to become more like what we seek. This is counter to most religous organizations.
WE must recognize that ancient knowledge is incomplete and often incorrect. The world is dynamic and these variations must be taken to account to adapt our moral code to survive and grow. We cannot afford to revel in ignorance forever. The limits of ancient knowledge are met at Armaggedon.
Evil MEN praise God to gain power. Hitler was a friend of the Pope and a good catholic. He called on God often for help. Terrorism is viable in a religous context, because people believe in what will happen when they die. Religion has always been used to manipulate the masses, the dark ages can return and get even DARKER.
Faith eventually destroys good will between men, because faith give all men the idea that they have their private truth. But there is only one truth in the world. When there are differences between religions, they should be resolved. People working together to find THE truth, not advocating their private truth. Fighting over differences means that the understanding of truth is limited. Fighting will not find truth. Only an open mind can find truth. The most savage places on earth are the most religous. Puritanism kills. We are not becoming a kinder nation.
There is a Mathematical principle call Godels theorem. It says that all systems, no matter how perfect are incomplete. These create paradoxes (religious differences). Paradoxes, are not something to fight over. They are GATEWAYS to a greater system, to a more complete truth. I call this the Mathematics of Peace. There are many advances that we are not utilizing for the social good. We are rehashing ancient failures, each time they are becoming more deadly and heinous as we become more powerful. The religous system creates good and evil and conflict. Signicantly different paradigms are available to people willing to think. Good and evil, heaven and hell are primitive that are keeping us in a prison. We are reaching the time when there are too many people in the world to survive with this type of thinking. Free your mind. Do kind compassionate things without the need for a reward for heaven. Try to understand the how the universe works, and work in sync with it. It is understandable and useful for peace and growth.
"I think that my ideas are out of bounds for you folks"
Need I say more?
You've been a member since November '03 and still don't know what the DU is?
Write clearer.
You are committing the fallacy of assuming that scientific knowledge is the only valid type of knowledge. This proposition is very common among atheists and agnostics, and is utterly impossible to prove or disprove. In brief, your dispute with religion is a question of axioms. Your attitude towards Freepers is a question of unjustified arrogance.
This is part of his "I can understand more of everything than you" pattern of posting. Even when his "logic" is dissected, he continues to say that we are only being judgemental because we are stupid. Oy veh.
You said that Hitler was "a good Catholic". If Hitler was a practicing Catholic, why did he use a pagan symbol to represent the Third Reich rather than a cross?
A true and right relationship with God is the only times our mental lives ARE in order. It is order to know God and disorder not to know God.
Um, for the record, I';d like to say that I;m not in favor of taking anyone out and shooting them.
Last time I checked, conservatism was about respecting liberty as well as responsibility. Silencing those with whom you disagree with is a tactic of the Left.
Okay, I'm off the soapbox.

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For some reason, Mo, post #16 reminds me of you.
This one is one of those Regres...., oops, I meant "Progressives", don'tcha know?
I'm not a deeply religious man, but as I've said many times, whether you believe the Bible as real or beautiful tales handed down, whatever, there's no mistaking what the ancients were trying to tell us about social Armageddon, re: Sodom and Gomorrah.
It was a warning!
I did not say Hitler was a good Catholic. HE said it. It was a direct quote.
And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a hookah-smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call
Call Alice when she was just small
Have patience, dear.
And who was that nice non religious guy that signed a "Non-aggression Pact" with said nutcase? Uncle Joe something ...
He also said that Germans were Aryans. I guess, now that you have enlightened us, Germans really were Aryans and that conquest of Europe really was necessary for the Lebensraum of the Super Race. Afterall, if Adolph said it, it MUST be true.
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