Does your religion have funeral services? I bought you a headstone.
Posted on 02/19/2005 11:58:48 AM PST by chaco canyon
Religuous people are good people that are being led astray. They are systematically being manipulated to remove the power that they have to use their potent brains. It is easy to believe someone who says he has an alluring answer, an answer that cannot be logically disputed. The fundamental mechanics of religion are the same as a virus. It attacks those that are mentally weakened, and when they are young and suscepable to the concept of magic.
Understanding of the beautiful complexity of the world is opening up to individuals that grasp the complex concepts. The universe seems to be alive and intelligent to those that do not have a closed mind. Religious dogma's do not approach this level of understanding. We live in a remarkable time, where so much is being learned so quickly, we do not yet have time to take it all in, to synthesize this. The vast majority of human problems are caused by human thinking. The religous order hamper human exploration, becuase they believe that they have answers. The intelligent universe seems to be telling us to live sustainably and to grow mentally to become more like what we seek. This is counter to most religous organizations.
WE must recognize that ancient knowledge is incomplete and often incorrect. The world is dynamic and these variations must be taken to account to adapt our moral code to survive and grow. We cannot afford to revel in ignorance forever. The limits of ancient knowledge are met at Armaggedon.
Evil MEN praise God to gain power. Hitler was a friend of the Pope and a good catholic. He called on God often for help. Terrorism is viable in a religous context, because people believe in what will happen when they die. Religion has always been used to manipulate the masses, the dark ages can return and get even DARKER.
Faith eventually destroys good will between men, because faith give all men the idea that they have their private truth. But there is only one truth in the world. When there are differences between religions, they should be resolved. People working together to find THE truth, not advocating their private truth. Fighting over differences means that the understanding of truth is limited. Fighting will not find truth. Only an open mind can find truth. The most savage places on earth are the most religous. Puritanism kills. We are not becoming a kinder nation.
There is a Mathematical principle call Godels theorem. It says that all systems, no matter how perfect are incomplete. These create paradoxes (religious differences). Paradoxes, are not something to fight over. They are GATEWAYS to a greater system, to a more complete truth. I call this the Mathematics of Peace. There are many advances that we are not utilizing for the social good. We are rehashing ancient failures, each time they are becoming more deadly and heinous as we become more powerful. The religous system creates good and evil and conflict. Signicantly different paradigms are available to people willing to think. Good and evil, heaven and hell are primitive that are keeping us in a prison. We are reaching the time when there are too many people in the world to survive with this type of thinking. Free your mind. Do kind compassionate things without the need for a reward for heaven. Try to understand the how the universe works, and work in sync with it. It is understandable and useful for peace and growth.
Does your religion have funeral services? I bought you a headstone.
This thread has come full circle.
So rare to see one in the wild.
Stalin and Mao were bad, but they were not the point. They were not relevant to what I was saying. You have no knowledge about my knowledge. My reading is extensive. The flames that I get are part of the point that I am making. It is more important to judge and discredit than to understand.
If its important enough thread to respond to, why is not important enough to understand what I say ?
So you are a moral relativist? Good to know.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/feature/story/0,13026,1034872,00.html
'Science cannot provide all the answers'
Why do so many scientists believe in God? Tim Radford reports
I repeat myself: Godel's Incompleteness Theorem has nothing to do with religion. If you had actually studied some of the mathematics you write about you would understand this.
Our descriptions of Godel's Incompleteness Theorem sound nothing alike. Even if they did, "about the same" doesn't cut it in mathematics.
Your attempt to use mathematics to attack religion is just as ignorant as attempts to use the Bible to prove that Pi is equal to three. Go troll somewhere else.
Re-read your own words. You are a prime example of arrogance gone astray. Mathematically, a ball is equal to a toenail in your world. So may I call you a primative slimeball because you don't understand me. geeeesh.
BTW, I'm thrilled to meet the most knowledgeable person on this planet. Honored, even.
One of the pieces of information retained from a grad level course in fascist movements in Europe. One of the subjects discussed was the evidence, much recently dissected from the Bundesarchiv, related to Hitler's personal plans for Germany. Of course, this is the same nut who believed that his Reich would last for a millennium.
If only you could figure a way to slip in a few more buzzwords, we'd all believe ya. Honest.
Are you a communist?
To use contemporary knowledge to discount the knowledge of all previous generations is not only distasteful, sterile, and evil, it is also the reason that in spite of the advance of science, the culture and the country is falling apart. To wit, you sir, are a moron.
Although there probably are some religious people who are mentally deficient, it seems very prejudicial to say that all are. We know that Hillary Clinton recently said, "I've always been a praying person", yet I've not seen any dispersions on her mental capacities. The reason is that most thinking, and non-prejudicial, people do not associate her support of legalized murder with her supposed faith. Hitler and Hillary are politicians who supported, and support, the killing of the innocent. However as much as I find both of these characters despicable, I am reluctant to say that either have mental disorders because of something they said publically.
Muleteam1
His research for his vanity post was reading a bumper sticker of the car in front of him.
I wonder if his screen name is prepared to meet his maker? :^)
I dont know what DU is. I dont think anybody is trash. I think that my ideas are out of bounds for you folks, and I get flamed. It is a judgemental context. In all my discussions I have tried to make people see the point of what I say. It seems to me that it is more important to discredit than to hear, becuase my ideas challenge. I dont think that people have really understood what I get at, because it is too inflamatory.
I also think without Christianity the earth would be a much worse place. We are the salt of the earth.
I think Saul of Tarsus was as foul as any man could be. I think Saul was right there with Bin Laden as far as ill will towards Christians go. However one day on the road to Damascus he was quickened and became one of the pillars of Christianity and did great service for god that still makes this world a much better place. I to was once a natural man without the Holy Spirit inside me. I didnt decide to change but instead it happened to me.
You kinda sound like me right as I began to realize a change in myself. Maby you are having a fleshly reaction to the spirit trying to guide you.
good Luck
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