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Amy's Place .. Poetry and Potpourri .. August 27-28-29, 2004
8-27-04 | JustAmy, St.Louie1, MamaBear and Billie

Posted on 08/27/2004 6:16:12 AM PDT by JustAmy




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'Amy's Place' welcomes all poets
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Howdy!

I'm the mouser at Amy's Place.
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To: BobS
I think Jane Fonda apologized for what she did.

She did, but was she sincere?

EXCERPT

In late January, 1973, Fonda divorced her husband and three days later married pro-communist radical leader Tom Hayden, who had founded the revolutionary Students For Democratic Society in 1962 and was a defendant in the conspiracy trial of the "Chicago Seven." In 1975, after North Vietnam violated the 1973 "Peace Agreement" resulting in the takeover of South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, Hayden greeted the news by saying "I see this as a result of something we have been working toward for a long time." That "we" includes Fonda of course.

Another infamous deed of Fonda is the naming of her son, Troy. Fonda returned to Vietnam shortly after the war ended in 1975, with her small son, to attend a special service being held in her honor. Fonda was still a recognized idol and hero to the Communist regime from her earlier years of sending money, food and moral support to the North Vietnamese.

But the ceremony, it turned out, was not just to recognize and honor Fonda for her love of the Communists. Her newborn son was formally christened and named for the Communist hero Nguyen Van Troi. Troi was a Viet Cong sapper who was executed by the South Vietnamese in 1963 for attempting to assassinate U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara.

Immediately after the christening ceremony, the baby developed a serious case of bronchitis, according to reports. The Vietnamese and Fonda panicked and called for a Russian doctor. The child was treated and Fonda and her child returned to the United States.

As a result of the communist takeover of South Vietnam, Fonda's friends in Hanoi turned all of Vietnam into a communist Gulag of slave labor camps with police-state oppression and no freedom of speech, press and worship. Millions of Vietnamese were forced to flee their country and turned into homeless "boat people." Years later, Fonda was invited by NASA as V.I.P. to witness the first space shuttle launching. Apparently, one source said, NASA and its officials felt little or no threat from Fonda's taste for Red Government.

In late 1987, when it became known that Fonda planned to film her new movie "Stanley & Iris," in Waterbury, Conn., there was a huge backlash from local veterans. Veterans held rallies, promising violent demonstrations if the filming began. Many bumper stickers reading "I'M NOT FONDA HANOI JANE," begin appearing throughout the community. On June 18, 1988, Fonda flew to Waterbury in an attempt to pacify the veterans. She met with them for four hours. Fonda later recalled "I told them my story - why I was antiwar and why I had gone to Vietnam."

A few weeks later Fonda appeared on TV with Barbara Walters and apologized saying: "I'm very sorry for some of what I did...I'd like to say something not just to the veterans in Waterbury but to the men in Vietnam who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of the things I said or did. I feel I owe them an apology...There were times when I was thoughtless and careless...I'm very sorry that I hurt them." The vets did not buy it.

They said Fonda, an award winning actress, was faking an apology because veterans were protesting against her all over the country. As a result of the protest, the vet said, her movies were doing badly and she had been removed from Nabisco Shredded Wheat boxes.

The vets said "no apology will ever erase the pictures of Jane Fonda in giggly bliss, laughing and clapping her hands, as she mounted the gunner's seat of a communist Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun." Bui Tin, a former high ranking Vietnam Communist Party official and North Vietnamese Army colonel who served on the North Vietnamese Army general staff during the war, became disillusioned with communism after the war and went into exile in Paris and the United States. He testified in 1991 before the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs about his knowledge of U.S. prisoners of war.

Bui Tin said in a recent interview by Minnesota human rights activist Stephen Young, that Fonda's highly published support of the North Vietnamese gave them "confidence" to continue to fight and "hold on in the face of the battlefield reverses."

When Fonda appeared at a press conference in Hanoi wearing a red Vietnamese dress and declared she was "ashamed of American actions" in the war and that she would struggle along with the communists, "we were elated," Bui Tin said. He said the American antiwar movement was "essential" to the North Vietnamese strategy for victory. "I'd say a lot of American boys lost their lives because of the encouragement she gave the North Vietnamese," said a former rifle platoon leader from Texas.

In December of 1991, Hanoi Jane, the once fiery communist activist, who advocated violent revolution to overthrow America's democracy and the free enterprise system, married billionaire Ted Turner, a leading American capitalist and chairman of the Atlanta based Turner Broadcasting System Inc., the parent company of Cable News Network.

Today, the communist architects of Ho Chi Minh's brutal war against democracy, freedom and capitalism, which resulted in the deaths of over 3 million North and South Vietnamese, and 58,000 American servicemen, are now "best friends" with Western bankers and capitalist businessmen. They are even traveling the world appealing to foreign investors to bring more big business and money back to Vietnam, so like Hanoi Jane, they too can be rich.

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161 posted on 08/29/2004 1:52:36 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry: "YES, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed")
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To: NicknamedBob
"Be careful, though, if you go looking for holes. They can be difficult to handle safely"

You are correct. A hole in my heart has been opened again and it won't close until November. I saw death from bombings in Europe while the Soviet Union collapsed. Kerry won't let me forget what I saw. I want to forget again. I don't want the nightmares to return.

162 posted on 08/29/2004 1:53:29 PM PDT by BobS
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To: tuliptree76
Hi Tulip! Good to know you're doing OK.

Hope you're having a nice time.

163 posted on 08/29/2004 1:55:46 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry: "YES, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed")
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Thanks, Victoria. How is your weekend going?


164 posted on 08/29/2004 2:00:36 PM PDT by tuliptree76
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To: tuliptree76

Doing great, Tulip. Thanks for asking. No more hay fever, yay!!! Well, I hope it doesn't come back, but I feel good right now.


165 posted on 08/29/2004 2:03:40 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry: "YES, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed")
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To: BobS

Hi Bob! It's nice to meet you.


166 posted on 08/29/2004 2:04:45 PM PDT by tuliptree76
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To: Victoria Delsoul
No more hay fever

I'm glad you don't have to go through that anymore.

167 posted on 08/29/2004 2:05:50 PM PDT by tuliptree76
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To: tuliptree76
I went to see the Doctor - it was bad this year, Tulip.

Anyway, are you going to watch the Convention?

168 posted on 08/29/2004 2:09:12 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry: "YES, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed")
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To: tuliptree76
Hi Tulip!

Please help make Amy's Place a place for girls again. I'll stop by once in a while:)

169 posted on 08/29/2004 2:11:32 PM PDT by BobS
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To: BobS
“I want to forget again. I don't want the nightmares to return.”

This is understandable. War is for young men, who do not believe they can die.

It is also for some older ones, who have a talent for strategy and mischief. But it isn’t for everybody.

If you need R & R time, just step to the rear. People have all kinds of ways to contribute to society, both in war and peace. I’ve heard that some folks even write poems.

May fortune give you peace. And may the vigilance of others keep you safe, as your vigilance served in its turn.
170 posted on 08/29/2004 2:19:31 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (I can see why he thought it'd be cool, but Kerry should have applied for the "Not-So-Swift" boats...)
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To: BobS; tuliptree76; JustAmy; Laura Earl
"...Please help make Amy's Place a place for girls again."



Grrr.

171 posted on 08/29/2004 2:22:57 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (I can see why he thought it'd be cool, but Kerry should have applied for the "Not-So-Swift" boats...)
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To: NicknamedBob

Thank you. I've done well for the last 25 years. I'm a microwave engineer now. But I have seen things in the AF that I want to forget forever.


172 posted on 08/29/2004 2:27:34 PM PDT by BobS
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To: BobS

Thank you for your service.


173 posted on 08/29/2004 2:52:04 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (I can see why he thought it'd be cool, but Kerry should have applied for the "Not-So-Swift" boats...)
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To: NicknamedBob

You love us girls..don't grrr. :)


174 posted on 08/29/2004 3:33:10 PM PDT by Laura Earl (No rest for the wicked.)
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To: JustAmy

I've got no idea about poetry, but I like these graphics :-)


175 posted on 08/29/2004 3:42:15 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Laura Earl; BobS; JustAmy; Conspiracy Guy
"You love us girls..."

Oh, to a fault!!!

BobS was rattling my chain, though. He kept referring to Amy's Place as a girls' place.

Everybody knows tough guy poets hang out here, too. Who else would help you put up those nice curtains?

176 posted on 08/29/2004 3:45:43 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (I can see why he thought it'd be cool, but Kerry should have applied for the "Not-So-Swift" boats...)
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To: Grzegorz 246; Laura Earl

Hey, that's the ticket...

I wasn't Grrr ing, I just couldn't spell this name right!!


177 posted on 08/29/2004 3:50:18 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (I can see why he thought it'd be cool, but Kerry should have applied for the "Not-So-Swift" boats...)
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To: Laura Earl; Conspiracy Guy
"You love us girls..."

Robert A. Heinlein, in The Notebooks of Lazarus Long, said, "What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it!!"

Got to agree with the Master.

Wonder what a world with only girls would be like though... peaceful, I suppose. Kinda quiet, too.

Maybe even boring?

178 posted on 08/29/2004 4:29:16 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (I can see why he thought it'd be cool, but Kerry should have applied for the "Not-So-Swift" boats...)
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To: JustAmy

Good Evening.
[Now why does that sound ominous coming from me?]


179 posted on 08/29/2004 4:48:11 PM PDT by Darksheare (The Liberals say: Join me and together we shall RUE the galaxy!)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
are you going to watch the Convention?

I'm sure I'll watch parts of it.

180 posted on 08/29/2004 4:53:52 PM PDT by tuliptree76
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