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Swiping and Dating Preferences: Gender divides in sex and relationships
Substack ^ | July 23, 2023 | Rob Henderson

Posted on 07/23/2023 4:06:03 AM PDT by karpov

Earlier this year, the American Perspectives Survey collected data from a representative sample of more than 5,000 U.S. adults aged 18 and older. Here I’ll go through and share the results and some thoughts. Some of the findings are predictable. Other results are surprising.

The survey found that women care a lot more about height than men do.

56% of women say they would be less likely to date someone who is “much shorter” than they are, while only 32% of men say they would be less likely to date someone who is taller.

In other words, men are generally okay with dating someone who is taller than themselves but women really don’t want to date a guy who is shorter than them.

The report notes that “No change has altered the fabric of American life so profoundly as the decline of marriage.”

One reason for this is the rise of cohabitation. The number of Americans cohabitating with their romantic partner has more than doubled over the past three decades.

Interestingly, a recent survey found that men in cohabiting relationships are just as satisfied in their relationships as married men, but women in cohabiting relationships are much less satisfied than married women. Much of social progress was supposedly intended to benefit women and instead ended up benefiting men.

Perhaps this is one contributing factor to the paradox of declining female happiness.

Women used to report having higher well-being than men. Over the past several decades, though, this has reversed. Women’s self-reported happiness has plummeted. Today men report higher well-being than women.

(Excerpt) Read more at robkhenderson.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: dating; manosphere; marriage; men; mgtow; pua; redpill; women
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To: EEGator

Yep. Two of my closest friends married their sweethearts while still in college. They started their families immediately, and the woman managed the home and kids while my friends went out and put 100% into their careers. The women went to work part time only once the kids were in late high school. Their families were wonderful, and they remained very happily married. To this day even, 40 years later.


21 posted on 07/23/2023 6:05:42 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: GingisK

I’ve had more than a few relationships where my girl was taller than me - no problem. They loved me for who I am.

But then I do know women who would never consider me because of my height. Their problem. Not mine.

Women that judge men by their height are in same class as men who judge women by the size of their boobs.

Know couple where he is about 5’5 and she is about 6’2”......and happily married.....


22 posted on 07/23/2023 6:05:57 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: Bernard; Gamecock; SaveFerris; PROCON; gundog
Hmmm. If she's tall, braless, AND a candy bar heiress, I might take a second look.


23 posted on 07/23/2023 6:23:56 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: karpov

Restating the obvious:
Women are hypergamous. Men don’t care.

But a lot of the problem is because of women, who are also both herd creatures and solipsistic.

So women tend to believe, that what makes a man sexy and alluring to them (education, status, a high-powered career) is therefore, what makes a woman sexy and alluring to a man.

They’re wrong.

The other difference, is that when a man is not high-enough status, or is too blue-pilled, to be attractive to women, he is called a loser or an incel.

Whereas a woman, can usually get sex with a high status man, but can’t get him to commit.

And as she gets older, and tries to substitute career achievement for looks and youth, blames men for choosing younger, more feminine, less-experienced women over her.


24 posted on 07/23/2023 6:25:56 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Arlis
Kucinich did ok for himself.


25 posted on 07/23/2023 6:26:32 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Fido969

Anyone who’s been through a divorce after a 30 year marriage can tell you exactly why marriage isn’t worth it for the male.

And when the sons produced through those marriages see what their mother is doing to their father, how batshit crazy she’s gone (menopause) and finally understand why they never really had a close relationship with their mother (because of her) they aren’t going to exactly be willing to rush into marriage either.

I hear this time and time again.

And this is why marriage rates are falling: no fault divorce.


26 posted on 07/23/2023 6:30:07 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: GingisK

I am short of stature myself and never had a problem—but there were some “tricks” I learned over the years.

You want to be “perceived” as tall even when you are not.

How is that possible?

The trick is that all people do not actually see what is in front of them—they have mental images which often do not match “reality”.

Short guys can “appear” tall if they are viewed as leaders or “big shots”. The trick has always been to arrange situations where you were the leader and others (the tall guys) followed you.

If you are not in those situations then you appear “short” again....


27 posted on 07/23/2023 6:31:01 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: bray

Gloria Steinam would vehemently disagree with you.


28 posted on 07/23/2023 6:32:10 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Fido969

Summary: men don’t want to lose 50% of what THEY worked for because they were dumb enough to sign a state mandated contract (”the marriage contract”) which states the woman can walk away anytime she wants, for any reason whatsoever, and take 50% of everything despite her not having worked and contributed financially to the family.

Now, when a man’s young of course he prefers casual dating and sex, perhaps more than the woman does.

It’s when the man gets older, sees all he’s worked for and accumulated on his own, and decides he wants to keep it and not risk 50% because he got married.


29 posted on 07/23/2023 6:35:28 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

[Get rid of the discriminatory divorce laws against men.]

probably correct


30 posted on 07/23/2023 6:37:26 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: usconservative

“It’s when the man gets older, sees all he’s worked for and accumulated on his own, and decides he wants to keep it and not risk 50% because he got married.”

I always see these posts—and they are correct as far as they go.

However I am stunned that folks don’t see the obvious solution—stop the whining and date women richer than they are....

These days there are plenty of lonely rich women who would lose more in divorce then almost all men.


31 posted on 07/23/2023 6:40:44 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Oh I liked Marlene, and the Tractor Girl (even though she had toes for thumbs) - the Good Conversation Girl (I think she did a shampoo commercial) and George's GTO girlfriend. But ya know........ :)


32 posted on 07/23/2023 6:45:13 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: OttawaFreeper

>here in the Great White North, I find that odd to make mention of Trump in that manner

Trump Derangement Syndrome has been propagandized very hard, and that propaganda crosses international borders quite easily, especially given there is no language change across that border.


33 posted on 07/23/2023 6:48:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cgbg

You are not wrong.

I’ve been divorced over 7 years now and dating the same woman for almost 5. We have our own homes. She’s retired, I’m still working (because I want to and enjoy it, not because I have to. That and I really like the big paycheck having escaped alimony two years ago.)

We vacation together, spend weekends together, see each other during the week and both have our own hobbies and interests that we keep up with.

I like this arrangement because we also get our alone/private time for ourselves.

We only recently started talking about combining households and what that would mean. That conversation included talking about our financial status with each other, which until this point we’d not talked. As we both suspected, each of us is quite financially set, can do whatever we want and neither would be a financial burden to the other.

She also finally figured out why I don’t want to quit working, that I live well below my means and my “frugality” has actually become “charming” to her. She thought I was doing it becuase I had to, LOL!!!

We’re perfect for each other.


34 posted on 07/23/2023 6:49:17 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: EEGator

I can’t tell you how much I envy that.

My current company is so woke that they don’t have an HR department, they have a “People & Culture” department. Pride month was such a point of focus it was ridiculous.

My last position required me to go into automotive assembly plants, the casual conversation in that environment was starkly different...and refreshingly real.


35 posted on 07/23/2023 7:01:11 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: karpov

The writer talks about “Dark Triad” behaviors and thinks the problem is a handful of guys who are like that. I disagree. Its the top 10-20% of guys who realize its a free-for-all for them. They can bag any number of women so they do. They have no intention of getting into a relationship with any of them. Meanwhile, since women find 80% of men “below average” they get very few dates or attention from women.

Women pursue that top 10-20% even if they are nowhere close to that themselves. The majority get used and then dumped numerous times to the point that they become bitter or give up. Many of them don’t give up the delusion that they can “punch above their weight class” until all of their youth is gone. Then when they find themselves in their 30s they’re finally ready to get realistic.....just at the point when a lot of men don’t want them because they don’t have a day of their youth left. Thus a lot of single people and a crashing birth rate.

Its not just “psychopathic men” though. This toxic brew is every bit as much due to unrealistic expectations by women and/or an inability to be honest with themselves.


36 posted on 07/23/2023 7:03:10 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: SaveFerris
I kind of liked papier mache girl.


37 posted on 07/23/2023 7:03:30 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: FLT-bird

“unrealistic expectations by women and/or an inability to be honest with themselves.”

Yup—and to close the loop that is exactly the psychology of liberals.

“You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.”

That was Ayn Rand—great philosopher but her personal life was a mess...didn’t pay close enough attention to her own words.

Happiness in life is a lot easier to achieve if/when you are brutally honest with yourself about your strengths and weaknesses.


38 posted on 07/23/2023 7:08:20 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: karpov

A long-term relationship relies upon being in love. Is there any room for that anymore? Is it only about height and bank balance?

What is a pile of money without someone who loves you?


39 posted on 07/23/2023 7:09:28 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: cgbg

But women don’t want to date men who make less than they do.


40 posted on 07/23/2023 7:10:48 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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