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A plausible plan to end the carnage in Ukraine
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Posted on 03/19/2023 8:46:27 PM PDT by ganeemead

How Donald Trump might could actually fix the problem or come as close to that as is humanly possible in the real world...


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KEYWORDS: 1938; appeasement; gthooukraine; presidenttrump; russianmenace; sovietempire; stopattacking; stopinvading; ussr
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1 posted on 03/19/2023 8:46:27 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: ganeemead

Not clicking on the link. So what is it?


2 posted on 03/19/2023 8:52:32 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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3 posted on 03/19/2023 8:56:13 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The rumor has not been confirmed until the FBI officially denies it.)
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Message: No Western leader is trusted by Putin except Trump. Putin wants to avoid Ukrainian long range missiles. Trump can convince Putin to stop now and to say out of Poland.


4 posted on 03/19/2023 8:58:30 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: Falconspeed

That’s probably true on both counts, but there’s no way the
current administration and both the DNC/RNC and GOPe,
the inJustice Department or the FBI would ever go for it.


5 posted on 03/19/2023 9:01:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for? which it stands.)
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To: Falconspeed

Neither Russia or Ukraine is fighting this war like it is an existential threat to the west. Russia has only 250,000 troops in threatre. What a joke.


6 posted on 03/19/2023 9:02:42 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ganeemead

It would be hilarious for Putin to corner the US in Ukraine and ask trump to negotiate the treaty. Oh would the venom fly then.


7 posted on 03/19/2023 9:02:50 PM PDT by struggle
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To: Falconspeed

Well, that doesn’t matter. The Democrats would rather have us nuked than to ask Trump for help.


8 posted on 03/19/2023 9:10:07 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Falconspeed

The answer is obvious.

Have Putin rig the 2024 election, just like he did in 2016, and everyone’s happy.

/s


9 posted on 03/19/2023 9:32:46 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: ganeemead
A plausible plan to end the carnage in Ukraine

how about Russia stops attacking and just GTHOO Ukraine

there's a simple solution for Peace


10 posted on 03/19/2023 9:35:38 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Eccl 10:2

I’m good with that!

But how would Pooty get Hillary to run again? :)


11 posted on 03/19/2023 9:42:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: Falconspeed

About the only CURRENT Western leader that I MIGHT trust is Georgia Meloni of Italy or Hungary’s Viktor Orbán (if you can call Hungary ‘Western’.

Certainly NOT XiJinBiden, nor Canaduh’s Prime Mistake, nor France’s Micro Macron...

Trump? Ya, he’s pretty much a straight shooter. Unfortunately, it’s 21 months until he can get back in office.


12 posted on 03/19/2023 10:03:20 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: ganeemead

He takes a plane ANYWHERE outside the US, they will shoot it down. It still wouldn’t wake up the sheeple.


13 posted on 03/19/2023 10:20:26 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: struggle

The ICC wants to arrest Putin on Friday, while the US deep state announces it will arrest Trump on Saturday

The two of them discussing peace in Ukraine would make the DC deep states collective heads explode

In fact, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby today dismissed any peace negotiations for Ukraine. We have pissed away any moral authority we had. Its completely gone.


14 posted on 03/19/2023 10:28:07 PM PDT by PGR88
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That works. Wars end when one side or the other wins definitively, or a war may pause and become a frozen conflict if both sides do not see victory as plausible and are too exhausted to continue active conflict at an acceptable cost.

Both Ukraine and Russia have more fight in them, so letting Russia keep chunks of Ukraine rewards aggression and creates a basis for a renewed future conflict. The better outcome is for Ukraine to win this year. Their accumulating armored forces and long-range rocket artillery can cut the Kerch bridge and the mainland supply lines to Crimea so as to invest and take it, while also mounting one or more major offensives that retake most of the Donbas and destroy the Russian army's remaining offensive power.

If those operations are successful and the Russian economy falters due to sanctions, the Russian army will be broken and there will be severe, disabling political stress for Putin and his regime. Then Putin may withdraw his remaining forces and accept a peace deal on Ukrainian terms.

15 posted on 03/19/2023 11:07:25 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Falconspeed

Pooptin is far from the borders with Poland.

Heck, he even redeployed Russian military from Kaliningrad to the eastern Ukraine front.


16 posted on 03/19/2023 11:12:04 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: MinorityRepublican
I clicked on the link, this part:

...Russia does not trust Western leaders at this point....
Is Alexander Duginesque Russian irrendist-revuanchist daydreaming. This part,

Assuming Russians were to advance to the Polish border...
That was a realistic consideration when the war started. That threat ended when the Russians withdrew from Kyiv. Kharkiv and Kherson, offensives which will be studied in war college for years, laid that to rest. Bringing this up now, A year and a month later, as if its a real possibility, shows detachment from reality.

What the Russia supporters deliberately ignore, among other things, is no national government trusts Russia anymore either. Not the US, Europe, or any of Russia's CSTO allies in name only, India or China. It is Russia that is standing alone, more than Iraq was 30 years ago. Russia can either leave or in another year its economy and military will have declined so much they will have lost by default.

17 posted on 03/19/2023 11:40:15 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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To: Rockingham

Of course you got no replies. Because you are the voice of reality and sanity in this war. Who will enforce any peace treaty that Russia signs? Russian barbarians cannot abide with a free Ukraine that is more aligned with Europe, than with stupid Russia.

Ukraine are European oriented Slavs
Russians are Mongolian (barbarians) oriented Slavs


18 posted on 03/19/2023 11:57:14 PM PDT by dennisw
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Traditional Russian Mongol brutality is falling out of favor even among Russians. Hundreds of thousands of Russians fled rather than be conscripted, and few ethnically Russian Ukrainians have rallied to support the invasion.


19 posted on 03/20/2023 12:11:35 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: ganeemead

Basically have the two bickering children keep their most favored toys and then stay TF away from each others sandbox whilst taking away their most dangerous lawn darts.


20 posted on 03/20/2023 12:28:20 AM PDT by know.your.why (Be not eager to be offended. The narcissism of small differences leads to THE most boring conformity)
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