Posted on 09/23/2022 6:21:48 AM PDT by JonPreston
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov emphasized on Friday at a conference that it is not in Moscow's interest to have an open conflict with the United States or the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).
Ryabkov expressed concerns over Russia's current relations with the two, stating that they are "near-zero levels." He shared that "America is incapable of negotiating in principle and, together with a number of NATO capitals, is directly pushing Kiev to transfer military operations to our territory, intending to fight to the last Ukrainian" so as to impose "a strategic defeat" on Russia.
He further underscored that Moscow is not threatening anyone with nuclear attacks, but is rather warning of risks of interfearance in its military operation in Ukraine. "The US deliberately lowers the nuclear threshold, creating a threat to the national security of Russia," Ryabkov stated.
I need proof, CONCRETE PROOF!
So, it’s only ok when we do it.
Don’t dodge my challenge, Sparky. If you continue to do so, you will have shown yourself to be the fraud and coward we all know you to be.
Nope, I speak the truth to your Moscow lies. Russian has its fingers everywhere including this country.
Klitschko does not put on airs of an intellectual, but he is one of Ukraine’s Davy Crockett types. I like him.
Those Russian speakers from the Donbas that proudly fight for Ukraine made more progress recently in Donetsk.
It must be tough for you cheering the eleven-time-zone hammer and sickle waving country against the freedom-loving one-time-zone country and still losing your bets.
So, you have uninformed relatives who were misled enough to vote for Yanukovich. I have a smart wife from Alchevsk in Lugansk region. Her family and friends are patriotic Ukrainians who want the Russian pigs and apes out of the Donbas.
Thank god we have biden, military contractors and 535 members of congress who help to guide us.
“I am an American who supports the ‘Rule of Law’...”
Then you’d support the Ukrainian constitution it relates to the separatist referenda. But, somehow I don’t think you do.
“...and ‘the right of disenfranchised voters’ to secede from unlawful Governments...”
So do I, pursuant to the existing law, if there is one.
“...and to get help from friends.” Then you’d have no problem with Ukraine getting help from ITS friends; if not, you are a hypocrite.
Re: my post #90. Respond to my challenge. To quote you, “I need proof, CONCRETE PROOF!”
50%+ of Ukrainians voted for Yanukovich. Your problem is not with me, or my relatives. It’s with the rule of law and Democracy/Republicanism.
The rule of law does not settle disputes by sending armored columns into the Republic of Georgia and Ukraine. Good guy armies do not use the Hammer and Sickle flag.
That may be what you want.
NATO/WEF/the Collective West wants to control everything and everyone. They cannot do that in a multipolar world of sovereign nations filled with self-determinate individuals. Russia was seen as a wild card they did not control. So, they applied pressure. We out here probably have only a scant understanding of the nature/duration of that pressure, although what we’ve seen, such as global total sanctions levied for disobedience, can give us a clue.
That pressure has not only backfired (Newton’s 3rd Law), but created an allied counter force of 14 nations & counting, 40% of the world population and growing, and a majority of the planet’s resources to its attempt at global control. No worries. Since the ultimate goal is to level our current civilization, they apparently agree with Lenin: “The more worse, the better.”
Whatever happens vis-a-vis Ukraine, people everywhere will suffer, then die, and survivors will own nothing while conforming to the daily-changing constraints dreamed up by the globos, who will own & control whatever is left.
They intend to build back in ways they believe will be better. That includes none of us.
But, “Yay, team”, right?
...they have been taken over by the EUSSR/NATO GloboHomo dictatorship.
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And the new boss wants to get rid of them, next.
“I support the Ukrainian Constitution prior to the illegal Euromaiden Revolution.”
Good. Then you support the Ukrainian constitution that addressed referenda and who votes in them.
We haven’t annexed Mexico or Canada
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There is no *we* in the sense of a sovereign USA. There is only the Liberal World Order and their Rules Based Order where they make the rules and give the orders.
The Collective West has no reason to annex Canada or Mexico, since both are following the Liberal World Order precisely. Eventually, all of North America will become a numbered Region under the control of the LWO and will operate by their rules.
However, the 2 arms of this Order are the petrodollar and the promise of security from threats outside that Order. When there is no overt threat, they create one (a virus/an inoculation/ever-increasing restrictions of energy and food/ aliens/pressure on a sovereign nation that creates an existential situation & forces a response).
The BRICS+ have challenged the already shaky petrodollar. Worse, Russia did not fall in line when threatened by the West from behind the facade of Ukraine.The West financially & culturally annexed Ukraine in order to use it as a battering ram/staging ground/excuse. Ukraine hasn’t been sovereign for years. It is a shell controlled by the West.
Like history, analogies can also rhyme.
We supplied Afghans with weapons and training just like we are doing with Ukraine now.
The only one pushing for open conflict is Russia through their actions. They can end everything anytime they want by withdrawing from territory that doesn’t belong to them.
“Let’s set the record straight. There is no argument over the choice between peace and war, but there is only one guaranteed way you can have peace–and you can have it in the next second–surrender.
Admittedly there is a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson in history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement, and this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face–that their policy of accommodation is appeasement, and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight and surrender”
-Ronald Reagan
The 2008 Kosovo “referendum” went against the Serbian constitution and the upcoming referendums in Donetsk, Luhansk, etc, are said by Zel (whom according to reports from arch-conservative Tucker Carlson locked up political opponents and painted all opposition political parties and media with a broad brush that they’re pro-Putin if they disagreed with him) to go against the Ukrainian constitution.
So if Biden and his fellow Democrats say no to this for Donetsk, etc, then they have to say no to the 2008 Kosovo vote if they both go against their respective constitutions.
The 2008 Kosovo “referendum” wasn’t even a referendum but merely an assembly vote that the West jumped at accepting.
So if you support one you have to support both or support neither in order to be logically consistent.
That’s all.
Not our fight
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