Posted on 09/23/2022 6:21:48 AM PDT by JonPreston
Life sucks,then you die.🤔
So,Kosovo is now a US state?🤔
Glad to see someone try to bring the temperature down.
But it is still filled with Kremlin doggerel.
The sad thing is, if Russia had not attacked Ukraine, they might have been willing to give up Crimea. It was my understanding that most Ukrainians didn’t care about Crimea anyway. But Russia never wanted just Crimea. They wanted the whole of Ukraine, just as Moscow always wanted to eat up its neighbors. There is always some buggaboo they are “afraid” of that they must take over their smaller, weaker neighbors.
Well said Union and exactly what I have been saying all along. Europe has drawn and redrawn territorial lines long before us and will continue long after us.
One does not need to like the Ukrainian government to conclude that an outright invasion from a neighbor must be stopped.
Even if Ukraine was a dictatorship, you cannot justify another country just rolling in there to annex them into their borders, because that would immediate turn the international community into a law of the jungle, any country can annex another one if they feel they have the military strength to do it. It would cause local wars erupt all over the globe over time. All smaller nations that fear the same fate would begin developing nuclear weapons as the only guarantee their bigger neighbor won’t invade, and you would have nuclear proliferation throughout the globe.
We don’t help the Ukrainians to just help the Ukrainians. We are helping them to establish a line in the sand that no country can invade other countries and expect no collective opposition from other nations.
And as history has shown, like criminals who successfully burglarize one house. Invaders don’t just take their plunder and stop. They will go on to the next one, and the next one, until they are stopped.
If I truly believed that Russia would stop at Ukraine. I might consider the idea of letting it go. But anyone who say they believe this is either incredibly naĂŻve or lying. Russia will not just stop at Ukraine, these guys never just stop. If you were honest with yourself you’d admit it too.
Negotiate with him how? Anything other than a withdrawal is just appeasement invite him to do it again sometime later.
“You expect disenfranchised voters to abide by a constitution (“rule of law”) that the Revolutionary powers in Kiev have trampled?”
Read all about it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Ukrainian_parliamentary_election
In the 2014 elections, in those areas of eastern Ukraine that were in open rebellion, or had fallen under Russian control, it was impossible for the Ukrainian government to conduct the plebiscite. Kind of like the 1864 election in the United States, where Southern states could not vote. Two, though, were: Louisiana and Tennessee, as they had fallen under Union control. However, they were not allowed to case any electoral votes.
Engage in open rebellion? Don’t be surprised if your franchise is affected.
Ridiculous. If they did, they would already have it.
At the very least we should not pressure Zelensky to abandon negotiations he had going with Putin early in the war.
According to numerous articles, Ukraine and Russia had a deal where Russia would withdraw their forces for agreements that Ukraine would never join NATO.
The US and UK scuttled the deal, in the meantime 10s of thousands of people on both sides died.
That’s what I mean by negotiate, basically don’t kill the negotiations of the two parties involved over some notion of regime change in Russia, our history of regime changes hasn’t worked out to well in the past.
Withdrawing to the borders on Feb 23 is not withdrawing. That’s like saying to the thief you have to return the money you stole, and the thief offers to only return half.
Is it ? You seem to think so.
Not hardly.🙄
That’s for Russia and Ukraine to decide what’s right for them, hasn’t the USA learned imposing a solution is a bad idea, if those two countries decided to settle the issue we have no business forcing Ukraine to reject a deal they were ready to agree to
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