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OSHA's Suspension of Implementation and Enforcement of the Vaccine Mandate Means Nothing Unless Corporations Also Stop Enforcing It
Red State ^ | 11/17/2021 | streiff

Posted on 11/17/2021 8:30:53 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Earlier today, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration said it would suspend all “activities related to the implementation and enforcement” of the vaccine mandate imposed by Joe Biden’s fiat. It comes after the Fifth Circuit imposed a nationwide moratorium on the implementation and enforcement of the mandate in a blistering decision that stopped about two verbs short of calling the hastily cobbled together rule both stupid and duplicitous (see BREAKING: Federal Appeals Court Denies Biden Admin Request to Lift Stay on Vaccine Mandate).

There is no reason for anyone to take a victory lap over this decision for the reasons I laid out in The Fifth Circuit Slapping Down Biden’s Illegal Vaccine Mandate Is Meaningless in the Face of a Lawless Presidency.

All OSHA is doing is giving lip service to the court ruling that the Biden bunch is actively campaigning to undercut. Think of it as the bureaucratic equivalent of taqiyya. Yesterday, 34 different lawsuits in 12 judicial circuits were consolidated in one case to be heard before the US Sixth Circuit; see Bochie’s coverage of that story at Joe Biden Gets Terrible News After a Court Is Chosen to Adjudicate His Vaccine Mandate. OSHA is attempting to show it is acting in good faith. Still, even as I write this, you can be sure that OSHA and related agencies are communicating with major companies telling them to continue to enforce a vaccine mandate, but to treat it as though it was imposed by corporate management.

There was never a point at which Biden’s vaccine mandate gave even the vaguest appearance of the legitimate exercise of authority. Its purpose was to bully federal contractors into doing what Biden had ordered and give Biden’s political allies in the corporate world the necessary tool to enforce a vaccine mandate and not take the heat for it. Whether my theory is true will be readily apparent within the next week. A federal mandate that adds to costs, deprives companies of workers, and does nothing to increase safety or avoid liability should be renounced by any sane corporate management team. Those renunciations, I predict, will not be forthcoming, and that will show we’ve moved one step further down the road to tyranny.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: business; corporations; osha; vaccinemandate
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1 posted on 11/17/2021 8:30:53 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s find out exactly who is paying corporations to enforce the mandate. And exactly who in the corporations is collecting it.

Corporations seldom do anything unless it fattens the bottom line.


2 posted on 11/17/2021 8:39:17 PM PST by JennysCool ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain)
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To: SeekAndFind

The medical privacy requirements will put a stop to it.
The simple OHSA hearing test is onerous enough to cause pause for the other procedure in my opinion. Privacy layers built
into the process at every step of the way—color coded paper
etc...to distinguish the severity of what could be revealed.
Does sound to be the basis for a great class action
lawsuit though.


3 posted on 11/17/2021 8:43:13 PM PST by Scram1
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To: SeekAndFind
Proof America has been successfully, and without a cultural/political coup, hopelessly terrorized.

Gov wolf here in Pa has relented, the CDC has drawn back and most of America is maskless .... but there are people that should not reproduce still thinking "just in case".


obozo TOLD us he would fundamentally change America and unfortunately, the greatest President America has ever seen didn't sweep them all out

4 posted on 11/17/2021 8:56:56 PM PST by knarf (?<p>Little kids grow up to be adults that get into powerful positions and act out their thoughts.<pg)
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To: SeekAndFind

Think of it from a financial risk analysis for the Employer. If they require the jab of somebody who doesn’t want it, and that person happens to be one of the ones that die or suffer serious injury from it...its very hard to argue that the company is not responsible for the injury or death unless the Osha mandate or some other government policy allowed them to say their hands were tied. In the alternative scenario where an employee who got the jab dies while working at a place that does not require it, its very hard to argue the company is responsible. They could have got infected from outside work, and they very well could have gotten infected at work by someone who was also jabbed, since obviously people who are jabbed can still pass it around. It would be very hard to hold the company liable (other than the legal system being insane—which it sometimes is).


5 posted on 11/17/2021 9:00:47 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear

Good points.
The employers are not indemnified.

One problem with health care institutions is the VA and Medicare money being held hostage by brandon.


6 posted on 11/17/2021 9:03:23 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for posting. I have been commenting that the mandates are company mandates not federal so far. And the only way companies will stop is if they get liability for the vaccine effects and have to pay $5-10M in compensation for each injury and provide healthcare for life. OR a bunch of CEOs get sick and die. that will end it. States need to pass laws that require ultimate and extreme penalties for the company mandates.. Idaho passed a workmens comp feature and OK has passed one as well. not sure of the details.


7 posted on 11/17/2021 9:20:53 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: SeekAndFind

“Sabotage”


8 posted on 11/17/2021 9:33:54 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SeekAndFind
OSHA was only getting in the act to put the boot on the neck of non-federal contract tied private businesses. The federal contractors are still cowed into compliance on pain of losing the federal teat on which they depend.

My HR dept accepted my medical exemption, but intimated that "conditions might change" such that it wouldn't hold. I'm on record that if conditions change in the direction of coercing the injection, I'm retiring. Dec 9th is my 30 year anniversary and I have nearly 400 hours of PTO on the books.

9 posted on 11/17/2021 9:36:26 PM PST by Myrddin
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Decades ago democrats were actually calling for breaking up monopolies yet republicans were like “no no no big corporations are your friends!!!!”

Well now these corporations are owned by leftists and none of them have problems forcing this shit on us because they know we have few to no options besides them


10 posted on 11/17/2021 9:46:24 PM PST by charles_covington
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To: SeekAndFind
the Occupational Safety and Health Administration said it would suspend all “activities related to the implementation and enforcement” of the vaccine mandate

As I've commented many times here on FR, weeks ago and since this began (and as a former Fed Contractor), the Mop & Cone Police are in no position to enforce ANY of this bullsh!t. BIG BUSINESS, JUST IGNORE THE "MANDATE".

11 posted on 11/17/2021 10:37:33 PM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: JennysCool

“Let’s find out exactly who is paying corporations to enforce the mandate”

Most of these big corporations have been infested with one world globalists at the upper management levels. It’s ideology not payola.


12 posted on 11/17/2021 11:00:33 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: SeekAndFind

Would it not leave corporations open to lawsuit then?


13 posted on 11/18/2021 1:01:50 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: metmom

Totally agree with you. Businesses have been able to hide behind “the Federal govt. made me do it” cry since the mandate began. But without the cover of the executive office, businesses will have to defend discriminating against the unvaxxed. Which may prove impossible for them especially if the unvaxxed person is also someone who has recovered from Covid. They can’t say the vaxxed person has more immunity and can’t spread the disease. Also, the CDC has no record of a covid survivor subsequently catching the disease again and passing it to another person. But it has plenty of history of the vaccinated having “breakthroughs” and passing the disease to others.

If both the unvaxxed without prior covid and the vaxxed can catch and spread the disease, why are only the vaxxed allowed to go without masks? Why aren’t they also being asked to get tested regularly? Why is there a covid passport? The businesses will be exposed to huge lawsuits for firing people, refusing the unvaxxed access, and for any illness caused by the vaccine. They will have to justify their discrimination in court. The same discrimination and lies Biden put into place, not because the science dictated it, but to force people to take the vaccine. They will have to defend Biden’s lies in court.

I had always thought the businesses were between a rock and a hard place. But now that the govt. is no longer allowed to coerce them to comply, they will have to deal with the workers they are coercing to take the vaccine. If the govt. is still demanding compliance from businesses on the down low, the businesses will be in deep trouble. If they can’t see this and continue to try to enforce the mandate for Biden, they’d better have very deep pockets.


14 posted on 11/18/2021 1:55:21 AM PST by Waryone (2 Chronicles 7:14; praise God for His great mercy!)
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To: charles_covington
I don’t think the CEOs of these companies are really the problem — no matter how leftist they may be. As someone who has served in senior management roles in the corporate world, I can tell you that this is how these CEOs have been approaching this COVID fiasco:

1. What they really want is legal immunity against workplace lawsuits arising out of COVID or any related measures imposed over the last year and a half -- protection from lawsuits by employees who contract the disease, lawsuits by employees who are vaccinated under employer rules and have adverse side effects, etc.

2. These CEOs are never going to get that -- for a number of reasons. The biggest one is that tort lawsuits are covered under state law, not Federal law ... so there will ultimately be a patchwork of 50 different state laws that would cover this. Also, Congress would never pass it as long as Democrats have any say in the matter because they are owned by trial lawyer lobbyists.

3. So what the CEO wants is the next best thing: a Federal "mandate" or "regulation" that covers the employer's ass if there ARE legal ramifications to any COVID policy adopted by the employer.

4. I honestly don't think most CEOs really want a vaccine mandate. I suspect most CEOs don't give a damn if any given employee is vaccinated, not vaccinated, "immunized" by some witch doctor who gives exotic potions, etc. What the CEO wants — in the absence of legal immunity — is to get a single uniform standard in place that covers the company's ass and eliminates COVID as a distraction. What this means it that there are effectively two options: (A) "vaccinate" everyone, or (B) eliminate almost every COVID-related measure entirely.

5. Most CEOs of large U.S. companies choose Option (A) for one simple reason: At least 75% of their employees are neurotic, gullible cowards who accept whatever idiocy is peddled on social media and buy into the Branch Covidian nonsense ... and who don't want to work with people who refuse to comply. If 75% of the workers in the U.S. refused to get "vaccinated," the CEOs would be fighting this OSHA bullsh!t much harder.

15 posted on 11/18/2021 2:51:23 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Mandates purpose was to provide cover for the corps.. that’s why it was issued I the first place… never was legal


16 posted on 11/18/2021 3:12:43 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: BiglyCommentary

My company has one of those as a CEO. To him social awards and accolades seem more important than actually making money. We also do business with the government so even if we don’t have the OSHA plan, we have the Biden plan. This week we had to declare our vaccination status as “a condition of our employment”. I am not compliant with the mandate and never will be. They gave us a medical option and I convinced my doctor to give me one last night. I will see if that flies when the cuts start happening. Frankly, at this point I see where the company is headed and I don’t like it. I may be better off working somewhere else. Hard to leave after 34 years in the same company but if pushed, I may be grateful in the long run.


17 posted on 11/18/2021 3:44:22 AM PST by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: Dutch Boy

Familiarity and physics (”a body at rest tends to stay at rest...) are tough to overcome but sometimes its good to get the push from behind when doing your jump so you don’t freeze in the door.


18 posted on 11/18/2021 4:07:13 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not seeing how any company or corporation can mandate medical decisions period. It’s illegal and unconstitutional and somewhere down the road they’ll be held liable.


19 posted on 11/18/2021 4:29:31 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: JennysCool

it was corporations who made the mask mandate possible


20 posted on 11/18/2021 4:33:37 AM PST by SisterK (recognize and resist tyranny)
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