One such moment occurred in June of 1954:
"Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"
Most Americans will recognize that as being directed to Sen. Joe McCarthy, and understand its impact. Many more Americans today, and perhaps more soon, will better appreciate McCarthy's concern, if not as much his method. Some today may better recognize the tactics employed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army%E2%80%93McCarthy_hearings#Joseph_Welch_confronts_McCarthy
Another such moment occurred August 18, 1988:
"Read my lips: no new taxes."
Spoken at the RNC as George H.W. Bush accepted the nomination for a second term, Wikipedia notes with droll understatement: "The line later hurt Bush politically."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read_my_lips:_no_new_taxes
And, on 22 December, 2020:
"I'll make you a promise. We're going to keep fighting. You watch."
It does not yet have its own Wikipedia page. But, I don't think there has EVER been a more crystalizing moment in American politics: not one in which the choices available were as clear, or where the choices made so clearly diverge from the rhetoric, and thus define the flawed character of the speaker, or the actor, as in that one moment, words and deeds were seen paired in distinct black and white contrast in the events following. The rest of the history, is yet to be written... and perhaps it is still too soon to judge, but so far, its looking like:
1. Pence, 2. Quisling, 3. Benedict Arnold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidkun_Quisling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Arnold
Americans, saddled with cadres of leadership like this... dull, and dumb... having no apparent ability to recognize it to object beforehand, and prevent it doing its worst... perhaps because of controlled media... watch, now, horrified as the last vestige of the light of liberty in the world seems on the verge of snuffing out.
Is Pence, and those who have sided with him, aware, or, like McCarthy, only indignant, surprised and a bit curious at being recognized ? Will Pence ever figure out he was the problem ? Or, is Pence more of a Benedict Arnold than a Quisling ? Time will tell, and it won't take long. Yet, all I hear now are calls for Trump to resign ?
Pence makes benedict arnold look a lot better.
Can we Freepers be a bit slower to cancel people?
Cancel culture is bad. Let’s not jump on that bandwagon.
His lips were moving.
Repeating my comment from an earlier Pence thread ...
Pence took off his mask when the Senate was called to order last night.
I was looking forward to the debate about the Electoral College votes, but I just gagged and turned off my TV.
In recent days, probably like many here, I began to think of Lin Wood as mentally unbalanced. I no longer think that way.
ML/NJ
Pontius Pence has taken the Lord’s name to do evil. He is an heretical dead soul.
I trusted Flynn because I had read his book, “The Field of Fight” in the run up to the election 2016. I knew Flynn was a man of highest character!
Pence, an avowed Evangelical Christian who wore his piety on his sleeve thus creating skepticism of his sincerity, became a suspect to a crime. But we had no proof of anything in January 2017.
Now there is.
One thing I learned in my professional life is that you should ignore anything a politician says at a convention or conference. They know elwhat any given audience wants to hear, and they just say that.
The media that controls DC and the republicrats is fanning the flames, but people need to be honest with themselves and one another.
I am not really a Pence guy, but I feel like this place has turned into a pile-on when the steal was sealed long before yesterday.
Pence was supposed to twist himself into some parliamentarian pretzel on which even the Trump legal team did not fully agree and single-handily change the election in a congress that would not act and had already said they would certify the votes submitted by the states?
At what point do people admit the man was like a FG kicker facing a 70yd kick with 3 seconds left on the clock? Does not the entire team for the 4 quarters prior to that moment deserve some blame?
Could he have objected under the constitution? Maybe, but that has not really been how the process works and it is not as clear as some have made it out to be.
If you want to assign blame look no further than the republicrat legislatures in the contested states.
The constitution is clear. They were the ones who had legal authority to investigate and throw out invalid votes or correct the vote. They did not.
I almost wish that Trump had not filed lawsuits. They went nowhere and in hindsight all of the people with the constitutional responsibility simply kicked the can and pointed to the legal cases. The courts were not hearing them. Period. The courts simply ran out the clock and here we are.
Someone needs to get this to Bannon’s War Room for tomorrow’s Cold Open
Pence is out of the family business.....
Someone over at Parlor had an interesting theory. That Pence certified knowing the steal would be exposed eventually so he had to go along with the electoral college so when the truth comes out on the election fraud they can be legally charged with SEDITION!!! Everyone found with their hands in the cookie jar will do serious time. Thinks he’s working with Trump. I found it interesting
Pence is a good man. I gather that is an unpopular opinion right now. But I believe it.
If that Act gives the Vice President the final authority to count some Electoral Votes and to exclude other Electoral Votes, I cannot find the language in the statute.
Are there other statutes or decisions that grant this authority?
Based on my own limited research, Pence's decision not to exclude some Electoral Votes appears to be justified.