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President Trump is not draining the swamp

Posted on 12/04/2019 7:20:36 AM PST by detective

"Here is my strategy on the cold war: we win, they lose."

Ronald Reagan.

President Trump has done a great job so far. The fact that he is still in office and has had some successes in spite of being continually sabotaged is remarkable.

But President Trump is losing in his attempt to clean up the federal government and drain the swamp.

Most Americans do not realize how extensive the attempt to destroy the Trump Presidency is. Those who work against the president face no consequences for their actions. President Trump only has to lose once and he will be destroyed. He will be impeached, prosecuted and sent to prison.

The media compare Trump supporters to Nazis, ISIS fighters, Klansmen and any other insult they can think of.

These people will never stop working against the president.

President Trump should realize he is in an all out war. Like President Reagan he should make sure he wins and they lose.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: democrats; government; ofcourseheis; resistance; shills; trump; trusttheplan; youshill
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To: Little Ray

“And if he’s re-elected, he doesn’t have to give a damn any more.”

If the swamp is not scared to death of that, they should be.


81 posted on 12/04/2019 9:55:00 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (‘When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.’)
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To: Uncle Sham

Berry sure knew that!

He actually did break laws, and then continually poked his finger in the eye of both the Judiciary and Legislative Branches.


82 posted on 12/04/2019 9:58:44 AM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!))
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To: Little Ray

And he has to do like obunghole did and fire everyone obunghole hired.


83 posted on 12/04/2019 10:09:52 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: VanDeKoik
Can you show where ANYONE has to? Where do you even find the ability of SCOTUS to even make rulings that anyone has to follow?

You are an idiot. At least 10 lower Obama judge injunctions have been overturned in the SCOTUS. I am not sure you are all there. Do you follow current events?

84 posted on 12/04/2019 10:52:05 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

OK. I don’t see it that way. In a perfect world I am in full agreement, with the Senate refusing to adjourn so there could be no recess appointments and the President having appointments confirmed 3x more slowly than any other President he did not have the luxury of firing all appointees from the get go. That would have been dangerous for the American people. He has been threading the needle for all the days of his presidency.


85 posted on 12/04/2019 11:06:19 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: detective

I think #1 People are aware. #2 I think your post perhaps did not convey what you had in mind to say.
When you say “President Trump needs to understand” the implication, which many reacted negatively to, is that President Trump doesn’t understand nor do his supporters but you do.


86 posted on 12/04/2019 11:08:23 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: VanDeKoik
Like I said, you have zero idea how this works. You would get laughed out of a traffic court with that.

I am talking about any duly elected POTUS, he/she has Constitutional powers greater the the Federal Judiciary, the Federal Judiciary below that of the SCOTUS. I DO NOT HAVE THOSE POWERS AND NEITHER DO YOU. IS YOUR EGO SO HUGE YOU ELEVATE(LIBERAL PROJECTION) YOUR STANDING WITH THE COURT TO THAT OF THE OF POTUS? I am not a legal/political equal ( standing with the court ) to the Federal Judiciary, only Congress and the President can claim that. HAVE YOU EVER READ THE US CONSTITUTION?

The purpose of an injunction is to prevent "greater harm" while a case is adjudicated. But that does not apply to the use of Presidential executive power. 99.9999% of the time this "greater harm" would be viable but in this case, the "greater harm" is how, by following lower court injunction, Presidential power is seceded to the Judicial branch and lower courts. This is wrong. Only a SCOTUS ruling should be able to stop an EO. Get it? Are you this Constitutionally ignorant?

87 posted on 12/04/2019 11:09:54 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Redwood71
"And you don’t even have to look close, they lined up and volunteered."

Great point. Pelosi as house speaker has been exposed also. Along with a number of RINOs.

88 posted on 12/04/2019 11:11:04 AM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed...)
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To: outpostinmass2
On day one he cleaned house in the executive office, FBI and DOJ. Got all of his people in charge.

Clinton was not then promptly sued and had court orders by low level federal judges that he stop doing what he was doing either.

That is something that must be taken into consideration.

89 posted on 12/04/2019 11:14:10 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: central_va

>You are an idiot. At least 10 lower Obama judge injunctions have been overturned in the SCOTUS

So?

According to you, Trump can just “IGNORE” all of it (because reasons), and that a judge is somehow just making rulings on his own as the plaintiff, so he has to be the one to go to another judge or some convoluted nonsense you were pushing.

Trump instead wants it to have the weight of LAW on his side (you know, the 10 overturns by SCOTUS), and not just a windbag’s pronouncements online that he can just pretend these legal maneuverings dont exist.

I can guarantee you that you sure as hell were not complaining when lawsuits were brought against Obama and his administration, and you were likely not saying that Obama ought to just ignore the rulings that came out against him.

So how about you stop with the fantasy, and deal with reality town?


90 posted on 12/04/2019 11:30:46 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: detective

Much of the drainage should have been accomplished in the first two years, when the Republicans held both houses of congress and the presidency.


91 posted on 12/04/2019 11:31:47 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ConservativeMind
His own party refused to pass things he wanted WHEN THEY HAD FULL CONTROL OF CONGRESS! And we have idiots on Free Republic chastising Trump for not fixing everything in three years.

I would have liked to see him attack, attack, attack during those first two years. Including his own party when they failed to get serious on building the WALL and removing the enemy from positions of power in the swamp. But the opportunity has passed us by, until we wake up and give him congress back.

92 posted on 12/04/2019 11:42:47 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: detective

He may still be stacking the judiciary in his favor.

He has been busy appointing decent judges.

Be cause if the judges he has now refuse to take cases, there’s no point in trying to drain the swamp.

They’ll only protect each other.


93 posted on 12/04/2019 11:57:27 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Candor7

I think he’s succeeding some otherwise, the dems would not be trying to hard to impeach him.


94 posted on 12/04/2019 11:58:54 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: outpostinmass2
It's easy to find swamp dwellers.

Finding honest politicians with a gut for battle, that's much more difficult. And, as I'm sure you remember...candidates were being told by the swamp (including neverTrumpers) that if they worked for Trump that 'they would never work in this town again.'

95 posted on 12/04/2019 12:02:31 PM PST by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: Starboard
Unfortunately Barr does not seem to have the mettle for political battle.

I don't want to jump to conclusions...what does that mean?

96 posted on 12/04/2019 12:10:13 PM PST by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: detective

It’s more than just being anti-Trump. The powers that be own us and all the hard work we do. They do not want to lose power or money. One President can’t apparently have much of an effect against powers fighting for their lives. They use our constitution for evil, and we are prohibited to use it for good. Founders spinning but they surely knew their great acts would be difficult to maintain through perpetuity.

Human nature being what it is. Evil ones don’t obey laws.


97 posted on 12/04/2019 12:11:35 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: JayGalt

Exactly so.


98 posted on 12/04/2019 12:11:39 PM PST by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: VanDeKoik
According to you, Trump can just “IGNORE” all of it (because reasons), and that a judge is somehow just making rulings on his own as the plaintiff, so he has to be the one to go to another judge or some convoluted nonsense you were pushing.

You only read what you wanted to read and then stopped. I said that he should ignore the injunction UNTIL SCOTUS either rules in favor of the injunction or against it. Get it?

99 posted on 12/04/2019 12:30:58 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Explain where in the Constitution the President has to follow a court ordered injunction by a lower federal court judge?


100 posted on 12/04/2019 12:33:07 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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