Posted on 08/06/2019 5:52:22 PM PDT by chrisser
Hello fellow FReepers. Don't post much these days but I lurk a lot. Haven't seen a thread on this topic - if I've missed it, then a link would be appreciated and/or I'll ask the mods to delete this.
Like many of you, I'm a big fan of the President and all he's accomplished. I hope his second term is even better. Having hope for the (near) future is a pleasant change from previous administrations.
Sadly, Trump is just one man, and he has formidable and powerful forces stacked against him. I have no doubt he will continue to surprise us, but at the end of next year, or at the end of the next five years, we'll see the end of the Trump era.
I've been pondering what Post Trump America is going to look like and frankly, the more I think about it, the more it fills me with dread.
I'm in my early 50s and facing the certain future of my wits and my strength fading just as we reach a time that I think may be a very dangerous one, at least for those of us who fall into the "normals" category - straight, white, traditional, rational and conservative.
I have actually had this nightmare. Stop invading my brain.
I fear that this will happen. I am a Millennial, but not an idiot, and looking to move to a red county in a red state. I’m in Chicago, so if war happens I’m done for, as I only have maybe 3 months of medicine and just so much ammo.
One of several things may happen:
1.) A leftist will win the presidential election, and we will keep having party swaps during each cycle, such as the red sweep in Congress during Obama’s administration and the blue takeover of the House recently. This will delay war, but result in further animosity between parties due to an attempt to push partisan bills into law, but obstruction from opposition congressmen and judges. This will continue through presidential elections as well until someone somewhere (a politician or civilian) loses their sh!t and kills a lot of people in the name of ideology.
2.). Libertarians, moderates and Independents will start taking pieces out of both parties in terms of votes, and it will force extremists in either party further to the edge, thus exposing them as utterly insane while encouraging bipartisanship. This would not be likely, but would ideally create a bridge between parties as a wake up call.
3.) Conservatives, moderates and right-leaning Independents and Libertarians turn out in record numbers and elect another (somewhat) Conservative, though likely suffering losses in Congress. More judges are placed, to a degree offsetting liberal policies Trump’s administration could not do away with.
Unfortunately I see either #1 or a version of it, the worst outcome, which is a complete liberal takeover and empowerment of the radical elements of the Democratic Party, causing provocation of the opposition and an eruption of violence. I trust other Libertarians and Conservatives to withhold violence, but definitely not radical Liberals.
Pence even if he wins
And a decent guy
Is no Trump
I see nobody
The GOPe only get our votes by default
Quislings
Near Quislings
And a handful of the brave
I imagine that will remain true for whichever puppet succeeds him.
I am trying to be optimistic, but I don’t know. The Trump presidency might be a real turning point toward getting the country headed in the right direction. The Left’s standard lies and tantrums in response to Trump and their moral and intellectual bankruptcy have to be working against them in the minds of normal, rational people, even people who are not conservatives. Conservatives need to be energized by this opportunity, not just to have electoral gains, but to start rebuilding the country right where we live, and making up for decades of lost ground. This is America’s last chance to remain anything resembling the America we have known, and we need to fight and fight hard.
That is my hope. Now, my fear if this moment is allowed to pass, fruitless, is this: Après Trump, le déluge.
I am in a part of Missouri that was very active during the Civil War. In fact with Kansas just a short distance the violence started before 1860. As far as current times I believe public order will break down and various factions will take control of different regions . The real question is will the country break apart or fight a conflict to imposes a political ideology on the country. I lean towards breaking apart. It won’t be pretty.
You said, “when the poorest are the most likely to be obese and are the most entertained poor people ever.”
i do not understand why these two factors enter in. Being obese would not cause them any hesitation. Might make them easier to defeat if our side were not also obese. Being entertained would not give them pause either. Can I hear what is your thinking here?
I’ve come to the conclusion personally that a partitioning of the country is the only solution that would avoid eventual bloodshed, although it would be logistical nightmare to accomplish.
Our economic path with spending and debt is unsustainable and past the point of fixing. It’s just a question of how long we can go on and how bad the end game will be. I suppose a return to real free markets and severely limited government could still fix it, but there’s a better chance of monkeys flying out of my butt than that happening in my lifetime.
I’ve read a bit about what happened in that part of the country prior to and during the conflict. I suspect it is much closer to what we would experience during another period of domestic strife than the formal war that took place in the rest of the country in the 1860s.
The thinking is that there has never been a civil war when the poorest are the most likely to be the obese and generally have smart phones to entertain themselves.
When has there ever been any sort of sustained civil unrest when at least one faction involved wasn’t really concerned about starving?
Freegards
Unless we boot out the Bush League Republicans, we will still lose our country.
Flimsey Grahamnesty is STILL working on the amnesty he’s been trying to pass since 2006.
He’s helping the Democrats with Red Flag legislation.
We’re in rural WV now,
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Best place to be, I’ll be joining you soon.
Tough request.
A lot can change in 5 years.
Tough request.
A lot can change in 5 years.
Well, I gotta recommend SWVa to Freepers considering WV.
A little more welcoming, less drug problem, better chance of getting along with your neighbor.
Know what you’re getting into.
We’re almost tribal here.
One curious aspect of “Post-Trump” America:
For the first two years, classified information was leaking publicly all over the place.
Then, once PDJT ordered declassification, there’s no forthcoming information at all.
Wife’s family is from Whitesville.
We’re skrewed after Trump.
no democrats in jail
Being kin makes a big difference.
Good luck to y’all,
At a minimum Trump is showing Republican/Conservative Americans how to fight back and not be afraid. It is getting real old not fighting back against the madness of the Left and if nothing more comes from Trump, he is paving a path for patriotic Americans to stand up and fight back.
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