yeah? well ya better have AND carry all you need when SHTFOh I dunno. 260 Rem.,7mm-08, etc.
I like the 280 myself.
There are four guys on my street with 308 Winchester.
There are none with 6.5.
That settles it for the time being.
Don’t be a measurebator.
Worried about SHTF? Get more range time.
Apples and oranges.
308 is fine
8mm mauser if I must
The “best” isn’t the one with the best ballistics. It’s the one you’ll be able to maintain a supply of long term through barter or stealing.
Look for the most common, not the best shooting.
If I still lived in Western Kansas, it would probably be the 6.5. However I live in the Florida Panhandle. Heavily wooded.
For me just about any high powered rifle would do.
7.62+39.
.308 by Fiocchi: $118 for 200 rounds
6.5 Creedmoor by Remington: $281.10 for 200 rounds.
Hmmm. Tough choice there.
The .308 was the Ranger Sniper choice in Afghanistan.
6.5 the newly discovered wonder round! Except for the fact that it’s been around along time. I was shooting a 6.5-284 back in the early 70’s, not to mention how long the 264 Win Mag has been around. I’m sorry but you and your constant links to one of the dumbest firearms sites on the internet needs to be reviewed by the admins of FR. You promote a junk site!
The 308 vs Creedmoor battle continues. If you have the money to spend, try the Creedmoor. If not, 308 is just fine.
The article is pushing Creedmoor as a short action rifle cartridge. Fine.
At the moment, for me anyway, inside of 800 yards 308 is great. Beyond that whip out the 300 WinMag or .338 Lapua.
We’re back here again? As good as the Creedmore is, it doesn’t yet qualify as a SHTF cartridge any more than a .243 Winchester. There are TONS of .308 out there, and a variety of guns - including machine guns - that shoot it. I shoot .308 regularly at distances greater than 500yds and occasionally out to a mile. No problems. When you can start buying 6.5 CM in bulk at reasonable prices, and walk into any local small town fishing/hunting store and buy it off the shelf, then we’ll talk about it being a good SHTF cartridge. That’s what’s so great about the 7.62x 39. As lowly as it is, you can find the stuff anywhere - and cheap! And it’s combat-effective out to 400 meters.
Doesn’t one want a SHTF cartridge that if the SHTF will be easily available among the wreckage?
They had the ballistics figured out in the late 1800’s with the 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser and it’s pretty hard to improve on that round.
“In a ROL scenario, or a revolution, or a single war or invasion, you think you’re still gonna be alive after putting 2000 rounds?”
The fact is that in a real SHTF scenario most of the guys with a 5000 round stockpile of 223/308 ammo, 50 mags loaded and ready to go, and a basement full of tactical gear, will be dead before they empty their first magazine in combat.
That one sentence fill ASJ's daily quota for moronic gibberish.
Availability ...... what’s yer enemy carrying etc ...
yeah? well ya better have AND carry all you need when SHTF