Posted on 05/14/2018 8:06:40 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
"If they try to remove Trump, (there) won't be a Constitution Crisis; it'll be a Revolution Crisis," a call in guest told a popular U.S. talk show host recently. With a population of 325 million and over 300 million firearms, America’s gun owners have no intention of allowing gun grabbers to steal their lawfully owned firearms.
Amendment II of the US Constitution states "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The militia acts of 1792 and 1903 are giving militia groups in three states the impetus they need to protect themselves against drug cartel incursions in Arizona, nuclear fall-out disasters in Indiana and civil unrest, looters and other dangers to innocent residents in Florida; residents who could be in danger in the aftermath of violent hurricanes.
The leader of the Watchmen of Indiana tells youtube viewers "The mainstream media make us out to be hatemongers--not true; we are law abiding citizens (with) the right to assemble (for peaceful purposes)." He goes on to explain the abject dangers faced by innocent civilians in the nuclear fall-out zones of Illinois' six nuclear plants, just across the state's border with Indiana. By locating their prepper camps well outside of these fall out zones, the IN Watchmen prepare with simulated danger drills, train new members, learn how to set up secure tents that keep dwellers dry and perform many other necessary preparedness duties.
The commander says creating shelter is the most important item on his check list with water procurement and filtration number two and learning how to provide security from "unfriendlies" number three. Electric grid failure is a common threat for all three militia groups. "Do you have...
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> You’re operating from the presumption that the “combined strength of the US Military and law enforcement agencies” will come for ‘everyone’s guns all at once <
Good post there. Solzhenitsyn said much the same thing about how the NKVD got rid of “enemies of the state”. The NKVD arrested only a few people at a time, and those people were instantly vilified in the press.
But the US military and police aren’t as mindlessly loyal as were the NKVD agents. The US folks just might not obey orders.
WHEN, not if, when, the deep state treacherous traitors spring the collapse of the Republic via whatever means they plan, there will be a limited amount of time to get them in their burrows, so the whereabouts of these traitors needs to be monitored if we are to excise the cancer they are.
You're implying that the government can slowly confiscate hundreds of millions of firearms without raising suspicion, or provoking a response from the people?
No offense, but that's illogical at best, and some kind of paranoid delusion at worst.
You need to keep up better. If there is any attempt to remove Trump from office an organized group of current and former military are prepared to stop it.
You’re implying that the government can slowly confiscate hundreds of millions of firearms without raising suspicion, or provoking a response from the people?
No offense, but that’s illogical at best, and some kind of paranoid delusion at worst.
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They can do anything they want with the power of the press on their side and cooperation from social media.
Yes, it’s going to come off as some kind of paranoid delusion when you read it, but they can go around and target the most radical people first. Their will be incidents of course, but most people wont hear about them, and if they do, they will get the press to present the incidents as fanatical right wingers going off the deep end.
If you don’t think that can happen, ask yourself if you would have believed it if you were told 3 years ago that the democrats could install a special council that would hound a president for years with an investigation based off fake news russia influence after you knew everything about everything that hillary had already gotten away with without so much as a finger lifted to investigate.
Stoneman Douglas has already demonstrated that the population is willing to accept a narrative about events that absolve those negligent and actually point blame at fault against groups of people who’ve had nothing to do with it and with a broad brush create guilt by contrived association.
You’re correct that the Bonus Army was broken up by federal troops and DC police. Violently so, I might add. That act was so brutal, it left an indelible impression on the public psyche, but even so, it didn’t stop the people from marching on the capital.
There have been countless rallies and marches on DC since then, that haven’t resulted in an armed military response by the government.
I called your mention of the Bonus Army a canard, because it’s one of the most well worn boilerplate responses from the surrender caucus, every time this subject comes up.
The line of thinking goes; ‘If you show up to DC with pitchforks and torches, the government will bust your heads and throw you all in jail!’
It’s just a fact that there’s a certain number among us who believe the government is all powerful, and cannot be successfully resisted. Our own history proves the exact opposite, but there it is.
The Events at the Bundy Ranch
Seem to have been forgotten.
No More Wacos!
You're just raving now. The scenario you envision isn't possible in this, or any alternate universe.
Can you wrap your head around the the number 1,000,000? That's one million. For perspective, dividing that number by 365 (days) works out to 2,739 years, which is over 700 years before the birth of Christ.
Now try to wrap your head around the number 150,000,000. That's the number of American gun owners, which works out to over 400,000 years, if each person represents a single day.
Are you beginning to get a sense of the scale of what we're talking about?
If you've got even a modicum of active logic circuits in your brain, it's easy to see that it's not possible to confiscate the legal weapons from so many millions of people.
Sorry. Can't be done.
“most cannot take a punch because they are older and out of shape.”
What makes you think the federal bureaucracy is in shape to put up a fight? I suggest you take a trip to any federal bureaucracy and scope out the rolly-polly doughnut-munchers squatting at their desks. Then come back to us and report how comfortable you, as a combat commander, would be taking these fat, low IQ squishes onto a battlefield.
LaVoy Finicum...
Should be Remembered!
I’m not suggesting at all that they will be successful. I am saying they will try.
There will always be isolated incidents of government confiscating the firearms of lone individuals and small groups, but they've war gamed the general confiscation scenario enough times to know that it can't be done.
“So the Bonus Army was broken up.”
The Bonus Army broke camp and departed DC before the trouble began. What remained were a few hundred communists who had infiltrated the march. The communists attacked the DC police, killing one officer, and occupied buildings under construction. That’s when President Hoover ordered the army to clear DC of the communist agitators.
Be careful what you read from left wing sources like Wiki or the NYT.
We do not have a movement, competent leaders, nor an advantage in numbers to do anything about an eventual gun-grab. The militias are not ready and they are not getting ready to do anything beyond prepping and staying alive.
Nor are we producing youth in meaningful numbers to take our place. It's mathematical at that point.
I think what you are not understanding is that there is a very well organized shadow group of current and former military and officials who will step in if there is any attempt to remove the legitimate administration or circumvent the 2nd amendment. You way over estimate the might of the federal govt and law enforcement.
Two examples:
1. The Bundy ranch where 500 militia drove off the BLM, some mercs and Law Vegas SWAT. Not one shot fired.
2. Remember the rogue LAPD cop that went on a rampage in Big Bear? The LAPD was doing a news conference from an underground parking garage in fear of their livee. Cops shot up two women driving a truck and some other poor guy who looked nothing like the perp. They were crazed with fear over one guy.
“We do not have a movement, competent leaders, nor an advantage in numbers to do anything about an eventual gun-grab.”
My question stands: What makes you think that a bunch of fat, doughnut-munching, low IQ slobs in the federal bureaucracy can carry out gun confiscation?
When was the last time you visited a federal bureaucracy and watched these jellyfish at “work?”
I don't give a crap about doughnut eating cops. The one right next to me is an Army reserve Captain, liberal as all get out, jacked like a NFL corner back, and he'll be more than happy to take your guns away.
Your problem is the mettle of men in this country is passing away with no replacement. You don't read history and what causes nations to fall. You stay in your circle and think everyone is like you, and everything is OK. It's not.
People are being thrown out of schools because of a pop-tart that looks like a gun, people have last their reasoning skills, and you think militia will save us from tyrannical government?
I've been in the militia circles in three different states. Missouri, Virginia, and North Carolina. They are too busy with meth and sitting on their fat a$$s. Everyone's comfortable and no one will rise up with any reasonable numbers.
They would have already. So go back to sleep.
“The one right next to me is an Army reserve Captain, liberal as all get out, jacked like a NFL corner back, and he’ll be more than happy to take your guns away.”
So, you’re admiring a fascist Army cornerback who is happy to take guns away. That’s interesting. Do you plan to surrender your rifle when the 10-foot-tall, Army reserve Captain Rambo tells you to?
You read too many comicbooks, Salvavida.
Stay on topic moron.
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