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Gay “Marriage”: Obama Lied, Rick Warren Believed
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| Julio Severo
Posted on 02/11/2015 12:42:47 PM PST by juliosevero
Gay Marriage: Obama Lied, Rick Warren Believed
By Julio Severo
Barack Obama deceived Pastor Rick Warren during the 2008 presidential election in an appearance at Warrens Saddleback Church, where Obama said, I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian for me for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. Gods in the mix.
David Axelrod, who served as a top White House adviser after helping Obama get elected, said Obama lied when he publicly stated his opposition to same-sex marriage in 2008. In his new book, Believer: My Forty Years in Politics, Axelrod writes that he knew Obama supported gay marriage.
The real Obama said in 1996, I favor legalizing same-sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages.
Longtime Obama adviser Axelrod writes in his new memoir that Obama followed his advice that he should not declare his real position on gay marriage so he could avoid opposition from African American religious leaders and others to get elected president in 2008. He said Obama modified his position to say he supported civil unions but not same-sex marriage.
Obama feigned opposition to gay marriage for most of his political career, compromising his true beliefs out of concern it could hurt him with voters.
But as president in 2010 he returned publicly to his original position.
Axelrod writes in Believer: My Forty Years in Politics that he told the future president in 2008 that he should hide the ball and deceive the American public for political purposes.
Axelrod had been also hired to help build Aécio Neves candidacy for the 2014 Brazilian presidential election campaign. Sadly for Brazil, both Neves and incumbent Dilma Rousseff are members of pro-homosexuality parties. It is not known how Axelrod taught his Brazilian candidate to hide the ball and deceive the Brazilian public for political purposes, but he lost.
Sadly for America, Axelrods U.S. candidate never lost.
How can Brazilian and American voters choose candidates according to pro-family values if they are deceived? And they have been deceived especially in homosexual issues, including homosexual marriage.
Ancient Jewish tradition holds that homosexual marriage was the final insult to God which caused Him to bring the Great Flood. If this is true, how could not Pastor Rick Warren discern this terrible sign for America?
According to WorldNetDaily, in the 2008 presidential campaign, Warren hosted in his church the Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion, open to all media, where Democrat candidate Barack Obama and Republican candidate John McCain answered questions posed exclusively by Warren, who wanted to help evangelicals choose the best candidate based on their own answers and sincerity. The problem was: there was a lot of answers and insincerity.
Obama gave Warren an answer about marriage that Warren and evangelicals wanted to hear: marriage is the union between a man and a woman and also a sacred union.
Yet, the responsibility of a man of God is not to ask sinners to answer public questions to guide Gods people. It is obvious that sinners are free to lie and Obama used this right abundantly.
Of course, McCain also lied, because he told Warren that he did not believed in the homosexual version of marriage, but more recently, he has been supportive of adoption by homosexuals and hostile to the Russian laws banning homosexual propaganda to children.
Warrens job was not to ask sinners what they are, but to show, based in a Christian discernment, what their true convictions were. God says that his leaders must teach my people the difference between what is holy and what is unholy. They must show the people how to tell the difference between what is clean and what is unclean. (Ezekiel 44:23 GWV)
Yet, instead of teaching his evangelical public how to use true Christian discernment, Warren let two liars to speak freely their lies as he instructed his public to analyze their lies. He, not his public, should analyze and interpret Obama and McCains lies and insincerity.
There is no surprise that Obama lied about his true agenda, which is to lie to advance more lies.
But the Christian agenda for a Christian leader is crystal-clear: to help his public to see through liars and their lies, and to understand and support what is right.
Obama had always been a believer in the homosexual marriage, according to Axelrod, who said of Obama in 2008: He also recognized that the country wasnt there yetthat we needed to bring the country along.
Warren was deceived because he wanted to be deceived. There is no lack of Bible instruction from God for his leaders to understand their responsibilities to sinners, including sinners who want to govern the most powerful nation in the world.
With a little help from the Holy Spirit and his gift of spiritual discernment (which would enable him to see what he is not able to see), Warren could have said, I do not believe that Obama and McCain are prepared for the U.S. presidency. Folks, let us pray, for our country needs a powerful visitation from God!
I know many good American who do not possess spiritual discernment. But they would not need a polygraph to test Obamas sincerity. By looking at his background, they were able to understand what Obama would eventually do which he did.
I hope that Rick Warren and his public have learnt precious lessons about liars and their lies.
With information from the Associated Press, Daily Beast, Daily Mail and WorldNetDaily.
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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics; Reference; Religion
KEYWORDS: axelrod; bho2012; demlies; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; lie; lied; obama
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To: juliosevero
Obama lied, 5,000 years of human civilization died.
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posted on
02/11/2015 12:47:44 PM PST
by
Bubba_Leroy
(The Obamanation Continues)
To: juliosevero
Of course he lied. Everyone on the right was saying at the time that he was lying.
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posted on
02/11/2015 12:49:23 PM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
To: juliosevero
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posted on
02/11/2015 12:49:46 PM PST
by
EagleUSA
(Liberalism removes the significance of everything")
To: Bubba_Leroy
Rick Warren reveled in his position as king maker that night.
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posted on
02/11/2015 12:52:01 PM PST
by
Josa
To: juliosevero
Many other Christians were deceived by obama, not just rick warren. However, as a seasoned pastor it was astonishing to me how easily warren wanted to believe obama’s words instead of his “works.” Perhaps the Book of James wasn’t on his mind. Obama knew he had to garner a portion of the Christian vote to become president and he did. Unfortunately, I think there are believers who put their politics before their faith in Christ.
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posted on
02/11/2015 12:53:29 PM PST
by
Son-Joshua
(son-joshua)
To: Son-Joshua
I think there are believers who put their politics before their faith in Christ.Total absolute truth!
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posted on
02/11/2015 12:57:07 PM PST
by
Theodore R.
(Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
To: Son-Joshua
Simple Googling and due-diligence would prevent some of these “deceptions”. I have hard time accepting the “I was deceived” excuse.
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posted on
02/11/2015 1:00:32 PM PST
by
Augustinian monk
(" If you ain't Muslim, you ain't Shiite")
To: Josa
Mega-church pastor usually comes with mega-ego.
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posted on
02/11/2015 1:03:12 PM PST
by
Fido969
(What's sad is most)
To: juliosevero
Rich Warren is a lying, Chrislam believing, false pastor and is leading millions down the road to hell.
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posted on
02/11/2015 1:04:35 PM PST
by
RetiredArmy
(MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
To: juliosevero
"Obama said, I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian for me for me as a Christian,..." Two lies in that statement.
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posted on
02/11/2015 1:05:14 PM PST
by
newfreep
("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
To: juliosevero
That was the most disgusting interview. Rick Warren could be the WH spokesman with that kind of soft-pedaling.
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posted on
02/11/2015 1:09:42 PM PST
by
bboop
(does not suffer fools gladly)
To: bboop
Spin, spin, spin, but Warren got played, and he played along.
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posted on
02/11/2015 1:16:20 PM PST
by
Fido969
(What's sad is most)
To: juliosevero
Rick Warren is an idiot, and so is any Christian who believes anything a Democrat says and votes for them, too.
To: Fido969
I want to know who in the CHRISTIAN community is going to call Warren out?!
Yet in light of his child's suicide..
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posted on
02/11/2015 1:22:47 PM PST
by
Paul46360
(..)
To: EagleUSA
watch obama as his positions "evolve" in REAL TIME!!....
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posted on
02/11/2015 1:22:52 PM PST
by
MeshugeMikey
("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
To: Augustinian monk
Agreed.....obamas vote against the Infant Born Alive Act was reason enough for any Christian to be suspicios
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posted on
02/11/2015 1:25:36 PM PST
by
Josa
To: juliosevero
It’s been clear since 2003, and clearer than ever today, that the goal has been to shove homosexual marriage down our throats in court.
And it’s been clear since 2003 and 2004, when homosexual marriage first became a hot topic of conversation, that the liberals were in favor of homosexual marriage, and in favor of courts shoving it down our throats. This is in spite of many liberals in the early 2000s saying they opposed homosexual marriage.
Why do I say this? Because, at that time, many liberals said they opposed a marriage amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and also stated that they felt the Defense of Marriage Act was unnecessary, because states already defined marriage in the traditional manner. They were against any actions to fight against the movement to force homosexual marriage in court, while at the same time, saying they were against homosexual marriage.
They were against a constitutional amendment, saying it was unnecessary because laws in the states already defined marriage in the traditional manner.
They expected and hoped that the courts would force it down our throats, so they wouldn’t have to deal with messy matters such as introducing legislation authorizing homosexual marriage.
Now we have reached a point where liberals are all in favor of homosexual marriage, but they weren’t always willing to say so.
By being against actions to stop court ordered homosexual marriage, the liberals really signaled that they were in favor of it happening via court order.
And if the U.S. Supreme Court issues their order as we expect, they will have achieved 50 state homosexual marriage without having to go to through the messy legislative process or do any work of persuading any of us how homosexual marriage is good for society.
To: Paul46360
I lost a child to suicide. The guy still got played, and played along.
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posted on
02/11/2015 1:31:47 PM PST
by
Fido969
(What's sad is most)
To: Fido969
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02/11/2015 1:35:19 PM PST
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Paul46360
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