Posted on 11/06/2012 8:42:40 AM PST by Seizethecarp
To find out more about Obama’s time in Indonesia, TheBlaze tracked down Father Bart Janssen. He’s the elderly founder of Santo Fransiskus Assisis who we found in a monastery in Den Bosch, The Netherlands. We asked him, through a Dutch translator, what he remembers of the young Barack Obama.
Janssen doesn’t remember who registered Obama, but he recalls that Obama’s mother didn’t speak Indonesian at the time, so he thinks that both the stepfather and the mother would have been there together to register their son. He also doesn’t think the details in Obama’s registration document should be considered official declarations of his faith or citizenship because it wasn’t a government form and people played loose with such facts at the time. For example, it was typical to register as Indonesian and Islamic just because you were living there, so the religion indicated may just be what his father put down because it was the normal thing to do.
An exit after one term from the White House could act as a catalyst for more information more quickly. An Obama win, on the other hand, would likely keep any information – at least from the president himself — sealed for at least four more years.
Voters on Tuesday, then, may be deciding more than just who the next president is – they could help decide how much more we know about the one we have now.
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AND NOBODY NOTICED!
The music only makes it more freaky...
I think every time the facts are posted, more people read and go - aha! I learned something...
And the more obsessives obsess, the more they’re revealed, too.
IMHO people in the US are so freaked out now with 0bastard “winning” a second term, that they are otherwise mentally engaged...those who wondered about 0bastard’s real identity and background learned, at least those who wanted to, what was presented on FR. Now they’re starting to wonder about what insanity is next -impoverishment, re-education camps, “your papers please” when traveling to another city or crossing a state line, etc.
I still think a dedicated website might be a good idea. Or a self published book on Amazon, I think that would have huge sales.
The work you and others have done is positively monumental. IMHO (and i know you’re awfully tired of hearing it) it just needs to be compiled all together in a way that can be followed and then WIDELY DISTRIBUTED!
Obviously no one in authority will do anything right now except Joe Arpaio, and he seems to be going the legalese legal route, which of course is his method, being a Sheriff and all.
What is going to happen next, I keep wondering.
But I really, really thing the research needs to get as public as possible - although I do see your points about not endangering sources. If that could somehow be ameliorated or factored in.
A lot of people want to know the truth (as much as is known) - but just don’t know where to look, how to find it, and if they haven’t been reading for years on FR they’re late to the party. Even I (such as I am) read for years and it wasn’t until the “Auntie” thread that the bell really rang out loud - I realized before that the Kenyan wasn’t the father, but that thread made it clear that SAD wasn’t the mother. And I was really trying to understand, it took me a long time, but then I’m don’t have brilliant analytical mind. But a lot of people don’t, either.
Just seeing the photos you’ve posted - they tell a story, and anyone with two eyes and an open mind will wonder why on earth they had to fabricate a family if there really was one!
“Once a CLN is finalized for an adult, it’s permanent. For a minor,the CLN doesn’t become permanent until 6 months after their 18th birthday.”
That matches what a British couple who had a baby years ago while on assignment in the US told me at the time. They said their baby would have dual citizen status - until their 18th birthday. I remember them saying clearly and specifically - “then he will have to decide if he wants to be a British Citizen or US Citizen when he turns 18.”
Had not see the first image here.
So that photo was taken in Muslim-dominated Indonesia in the 1970s, eh?
It supposed to be of a mother of 2 who is at least 29 and maybe 30 or 31 years old?
Well, she must have hit the treadmill right after having Maya. Because her legs look pretty good and she sure is showing them off for a ‘family’ photo in a Muslim society.
The kid has the expected bio markers for Obama. Its probably him. SAD has the usual sterile look that all her images have. I sometimes wonder if she is real at all given the imagery.
But is this an image of a 30 year old mother who just had her 2nd child in the last year posing in Indonesia in 1971 with a tight fitting dress short enough to make a Playboy bunny blush?
Notice the EXIF data on this one? Interesting.
I think the sequence I posted should clearly show the group on the couch is a composite created from a number of photographs. The couch appears to be the result of the ends of two chairs in which two people were sitting, the people are who we are meant to know them to be; there’s no doubt zero is zero...but if all the inviduals were originally photographed in the 1970’s is hard to tell. If that’s baby Maya then yes, she was photographed a short time after she was born, but who-ever created the composition obviously didn’t have a photograph of SAD holding Maya that was suitable to use...so they PLANTED her in her lap, but in a different position in both, though the baby is in EXACTLY THE SAME POSE in both.
A freeper provided the first image from a photobucket account quite some time ago. I do not know its origin. I don’t know how to obtain EXIF DATA, would you be so kind as to send it to me PRIVATE MAIL? PLEASE.
An image from her 1972 passport application beside the image from the sequence. It's hard to tell, it seems that much of her hair in the sequence is painted on. And when you draw attention to her short skirt, I guess it might be an idea to remember - you could be looking at her head and the body came from elsewhere. There's no guarantee it's her...neither can you know for certain if the original photographs were taken in Indonesia.
Thanks, Phil. I think the only explanation is that the baby is actually a plastic doll, it never moves it's head or changes expression, regardless where you place it. sarc.
Totally different eyebrows in those two photos.
You know in the fake family Indo photo - her hair always looked weird to me; I though maybe she had a veil or loose scarf on, maybe Islamic style, but in Indo the women with Islamic scarves tie them tightly. Plus the short skirt is definitely un-Islamic.
I think it’s clear that there were very, very few photos of SAD and the young Zero and so the myth makers had very little to work with.
The idea of placing the passport application photo beside her face on the couch was to try and establish if she was around the same age. Judging from the age of zero, what they are trying to do is show us a family group from around 1970, and her passport image is from early 1972. Near enough, but her hair's a problem, it's longer and much thicker, but then, I always thought much of it was painted on.
The baby is only a few months old, maybe three months? Maya was born in August 1970, they tell us. So here it would be around Christmas, 1970.
Lolo once sat upon a chair, and SAD also once sat upon a chair, and maybe zero sat on the arm of the chair beside her. But he must have sat ON HIS OWN ON A CHAIR FOR THE SEATED IMAGE OF HIM TO BE USED to place beside her, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A COUCH. What you see is the right hand arm of one chair and the left hand arm of another chair...and the distance between them extended to accommodate the people. It seems to me there were a number of individual photographs, that were later placed together. The baby came out of the blue, she's been plonked on SAD's lap in two different frames, but as they only had one baby image, they used that same image twice - look at her position - she's centre and then off-centre, yet she hasn't moved a muscle.
And the reason SAD's hand looks like a claw, is because it was taken from THE OTHER PHOTOGRAPH where her hand is on her lap, they had to clean it up and as they did, they lost the thumb. Her right wrist and knuckles are almost in the same place...
Now here you have zero and Maya, the little girl is older, yet zero looks younger. But maybe that's just me...
And what I find hard to believe is that the woman holding the baby, yes, she's Stanley Ann Dunham, COULD look like the woman on the couch in the short skirted tight dress:
The woman on the couch doesn't look like she recently had a baby...And that's just half the story. Please feel free to correct me where I could be wrong.
Glen Beck is nothing, even if he had all the goods he will milk it for sensationalism. He reminds me of the guy who captures King Kong, tries to turn it into a flamboyant sage show but instead gets crushed by the ape.
I stopped watching his shows years ago.
I cannot disagree with anything you’ve said. The woman on the “couch” (which is, as you noted, obviously manufactured with crude photoshop) does not resemble the woman holding the small baby.
The photo from the passport application resembles the photo of her in the sailor type dress at a port. The very arched eyebrows, IIRC are not a comment feature in SAD. I wonder if there are times when they looked more like that, might be able to determine timeframe from them.
And the boy does look older in the “couch” photo, than in the photo with the older baby Maya.
They must have been at their wits’ end trying to create a family image with very little material.
And funny how even in Indonesia someone managed to at least take a few photos of baby Maya, mother SAD and even grandmother Madelyn, but in HI not one single photo of SAD and a baby Zero...
Another intersting factoid is that the Gilbertson film and FMD myth seems to have dissolved like mist in the rising morning sun.
The same scenario applies to the children of the Muslim President of Egypt whose children were born in the USA when father was a student/professor. I think I would prefer someone from Thailand than a Muslim from Egypt.
One thing that might be wrong with the entire presentation is that it's possible they have used an image of SAD from an earlier time, before she was pregnant with Maya, and was still slim enough to wear a short tight dress as shown in the couch image.
Alternatively, what you see is her face only, and the body doesn't belong to her. When you compare Stanley Ann Dunham holding what appears to be a newborn, with the couch image, she appears to have returned to a slim youthful figure in a very short time. I'm more inclined to believe it's her face and not her body in that black dress.
And although Jerome Corsi gave space on WND to the story of the Joel Gilbert DVD, I was pleased to see Corsi comment that he personally didn't go along with the FMD-FATHER-THEORY, which hung on the identification of an (unidentified) Model whose images appeared in exotic magazines in 1958, as being Stanley Ann Dunham who would have been only sixteen and still in high school somewhere at the time. The entire scenario was grotesque.
I think that the FMD/SAD grotesqueness (to borrow your excellent word and mangling it a bit) was a red herring paid for by those who want the truth about Zero to remain hidden. In fact, I have no doubt of this. Gilbertson wasn’t confused or “got things wrong”, he manufactured lies, knowingly. Any sane person would ask “Well, why did he knowing manufacture lies and present as truth? Did someone pay him to do it?”
That is the only rational explanation.
PS. Notice how it's just you and me on the thread? That always happens after the attack dog has worked his/her magic. Anything that might be enlightening or indicate a different scenario to the FMD-father story sends everyone off into a tizzy and they don't return. Pity. I was thinking about showing images of Lolo that question his identity, but it's not worth the bother doing it again.
It’s just us making comments, used to be one could see how many views a thread had, not any more. Often surprising how many views compared to how many were commenting.
“The windows in the living room of Frank’s house were tall and narrow – a design unique to English Tudor style houses,” he noted.
“The windows at 2994 Kalihi Street appear to match the tall, narrow windows with their bottom sill low to the floorboards seen in the pin-up photos.”
The window blind reaches to the ceiling, but the window frame stops at about the level of the couch. THE WINDOW SILL IS NOT LOW TO THE FLOOR.
It just looks a little suspicious...
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