Posted on 01/02/2011 1:00:02 PM PST by opentalk
Notwithstanding Obama’s lack of constitutional eligibility for the office he occupies as a direct result of his father’s citizenship, Obama can’t even prove he is an American. In fact the only thing we can confirm about Obama is that he is a foreigner–foreign to America, foreign to the english language, and ignorant of our history. At this late date, after millions of dollars spent, people mysteriously dying, and the jailing of a decorated Army officer–all of whom questioned Obama’s legality–any so called ‘birth certificate’ produced now is nothing more than suspect, and it is more than likely another faked document…a worthless piece of paper just like all of Obama’s so called ‘credentials’.
We know Obama was born British, is likely a Kenyan citizen, and is Indonesian; we know he was never naturalized as an American citizen; we know there is no record of his name change from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama, II; we know he lied on his Illinois bar form about his previous names; we know he is using a stolen social security number, and that he has multiple social security numbers, and we know that Obama has a forged selective service registration.
Who does this kind of stuff except an illegal alien?
One of the things Obama cannot prove is that he is an American. He won’t release anything and asks us to believe him…as he robs our savings, our livelihood and our America.
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LOL - like the Undead man in “Perelandra” - actually he wasn’t a “regular” man, if you get my drift...
Did you ever read that trilogy by C.S. Lewis?
Thank you so much TNTNT for answering my questions! Your answers are very strait-forward.
In answer to the first question, you have said that no, truth is not something that can only be found relative to one’s personal perspective, which alternately means there is an absolute truth that can be determined. My question is, in relation to Obama, why would someone who seeks to uphold truth seek to conceal his “paper” identity? (birth records, school records, passports, etc.) The only identity he has allowed to be public record is one of hearsay. Even the birth certificate on line which has been unmercifully pointed to time and again as good enough proof has been nullified by his own party person, Abercrombie. The book, dreams of my father, which we were told he wrote, and we could take as a first person account of his life, we now understand to have been written by Bill Ayers. Why should we consider this book as truth? What we are left with is what appears to have been willful misrepresentation with the intent to deceive for personal gain—mainly gaining the office of the presidency. I am not okay with that. Truthfully, are you?
In relation to the second question I agree trust but verify is a very good model. Verifying in our country involves putting trust up against law. If behavior fits law, it can be trusted. Yet, the movement toward interpreting the constitution as a living document is denying truth the opportunity to be tested for trust through the careful application of law. Obama’s behavior in relation to his paper identity is instinctively recognized as behavior that is not to be trusted. Anyone acting in this fashion would be seen in this light. There is nothing to debate on this point. So why trust him? Why do you trust him if you truly believe in trust but verify? The things you point to as places in which he was verified all have questionable issues associated with them. Why support questionable issues when they could become verifiable issues if questions are asked and answered?
If you truly believe there is absolute truth and if you are truly a supporter of trust but verify, the way in which you seek to remove credibility from those you refer to as birthers seems to deny what you have stated about truth and trust. Maybe I am misreading?
As I said last night, they’re really hiring a poor grade of 0h0m0 toadying suckup troll these days. Scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Then riddle me this, why does Kapioliani Hospital refuse to confirm online today what it unequivocally confirmed online in 2009, that Obama was born there???
With all due respect, your posts are indistinguishable from those of a trollic poster. And frankly that is not rocket science either :-).
An example of trust but verify in this issue is what I previously discussed. After the COLB was released on the internet and people still questioned it, Linda Lingle, the Republican governor of Hawaii at the time, verified that Obama was born in Hawaii. Ms. Lingle is a very honorable person (OK my opinion) who worked tirelessly for the republican ticket in 2008. Now if there was some incriminating evidence, there is no reason for his political opponent to lie for him. There are times when it is necessary to use common sense to get to the truth and determine when trust is gained.
Ah yes, I smell rubber...
Who, when and where? Are you sure it was under oath? Which website was it posted at? Is it still posted? Do you have a copy? What is the specific name of the certificate, a "certificate of birth" or something else, for example a "Certification of Live Birth"?
Are you aware that many scholars and researchers hold that Obama's Dad Barak Obama Sr.'s condition as not being a US citizen, of itself, makes Obama not eligible under the meaning intended by George Washington, John Jay and the rest of the framers and signatories of the Constitution?
A liar AND a braggart. No one is impressed that YOU claim your ancestors came here in 1636 (post 399). Nor do they care that you claim to have worked for Reagan (post 418). You're puffing yourself up and trying to look important. It's not working.
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So now you are mocking LTC Lakin [419]. Yet you claim to be a conservative. Let me tell you where Lakin mockery is accepted and encouraged: DU. Liberal, leftist moonbat Dems mock Lakin; conservatives do not.
You said you read up on FR ‘birther’ posts before wading into these “shark infested waters”. Excuse me, but these ‘waters’ are inhabited by patriotic conservatives. Who but a liberal Dem would consider us ‘sharks’?
Throughout your posts you have mocked ‘birthers’ for their ‘crackpot’ theories. Yet you haven’t posted a single comment mocking any Dem, much less Obama, for anything at all. The only people you see fit to ridicule and denigrate are conservatives.
Bottom line: you come across as a Leftist Democrat. You appear to be on FR for no reason other than to disrupt. So far you have gotten a pass. We’ll see how it plays out.
Class envy?
Like what liberals pander off on the masses?
Why, yes, you are doing that in an effort to make yourself seem more important than everyone else here.
Troll, we’ve seen your type of garbage before.
From out of the silent planet..
417 being a crackpot theory?
Sorry buddy, but you lied in every one of those posts of yours that were linked.
AND you got caught.
So let me get this straight, YOU LIE, GET CAUGHT, and it’s a crackpot theory?
Man, what are you smoking?
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