Posted on 02/11/2010 12:18:13 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Last year DISCOVER asked the question, Did We Mate With Neanderthals, or Did We Murder Them? Now, Zach Zorich at Archaeology magazine is asking another big question about our hominid siblings: Should we bring them back?
Thanks to a slew of recent advances, the possibility is getting closer. 80beats reported a year ago that researchers had published the rough draft of the Neanderthal genome. However, thats likely to contain many errors because its so difficult to reconstruct ancient DNA. Within hours of death, cells begin to break down in a process called apoptosis. The dying cells release enzymes that chop up DNA into tiny pieces. In a human cell, this means that the entire three-billion-base-pair genome is reduced to fragments about 50 base-pairs long [Archaeology].
Even if scientists succeed in figuring out the entire Neanderthal genome, theyd be faced with another problem before they could even consider the possibility of cloning one of these ancient hominids: We dont have any living Neanderthal cells to work with. Thus, researchers will have to figure out how to put DNA into chromosomes, and how to get those chromosomes into the nucleus of a cell. What about altering the DNA inside a living human cell, and tweaking our genetic code to match the Neanderthals? This kind of genetic engineering can already be done, but very few changes can be made at one time. To clone a Neanderthal, thousands or possibly millions of changes would have to be made to a human cells DNA [Archaeology].
Even if scientists manage to put Neanderthal DNA in a cell nucleus, their problems arent over. The next step in creating a baby clone is to move the cell nucleus into the egg of a related species in a technique called nuclear transfer, and then implanting the altered egg in a female who can bear it to term. But in this process, which has been extensively tested on animals, cells often get sick or die, causing fetuses to die in the womb or clones to die young. Thats why the vast majority of scientists oppose using this method on people. Even if nuclear transfer cloning could be perfected in humans or Neanderthals, it would likely require a horrifying period of trial and error [Archaeology].
But Archaeology suggests that many of these obstacles will eventually be overcome, and proposes another cloning option: making Neanderthal stem cells. Last year researchers managed to turn mouse skin cells back into a pluripotent state, where they can act like stem cells, and used those to create a cloned mouse. Cloning a Neanderthal is a lot different than cloning a mouse, but if the process worked, a cloned Neanderthal would grow up with their genes expressing they way they were meant to.
Thats the could we. But what about the should we? More work has been done on this than you might think. In 1997, Stuart Newman, a biology professor at New York Medical School attempted to patent the genome of a chimpanzee-human as a means of preventing anyone from creating such a creature [Archaeology]. But he lost his case because the patent office said it would violate the 13th amendment prohibitions against slavery. And since Neanderthals would be even more human, it stands to reason that theyd receive at least some human rights protections.
Rightfully so. But as the bioethicist Bernard Rollin points out in the Archaeology piece, theres more to worry about than the law. While Neanderthals are our close relatives on the evolutionary tree, youd know one if you saw one. Tulane anthropologist Trenton Holliday argues that they could talk and act like us, therefore eventually theyd fit in. But that seems like wishful thinking. With no culture, no peers, and an unknown capacity to cope with the modern world mentally or physically, a Neanderthal would be adriftcaught between a zoo animal and a human being. The main point in cloning one would be for scientists to study it, but as law professor Lori Andrews says, a Neanderthal could be granted enough legal protection to make doing extensive research on it illegal, not just unethical.
Thats not to say there would be no benefits to science. But some things are best left in the past.
I’d think the Neanderthals would be HIGHLY INSULTED if they were cloned today....
They invented FIRE, and ART as well as PHILOSOPHY.........
They’d look at OTHUGO and say......
YOU BROUGHT US BACK FOR THIS????????????
W at LEAST have a CERTAIN LEVEL OF CIVILIZATION!!!!!!!!!
HOW CAN YOU CALL THIS DUDE CIVILIZED??????????????
ROFL
Nope. The DNA studies of the 1990s did no such thing. This fiction sure comes up on FR an awful lot though, usually the “citation” is from an unsourced anonymous blurb in an English language “news” source in India.
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Thanks James C. Bennett for the ping, and thanks 2ndDivisionVet for posting the topic.To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.The Neandertal EnigmaFrayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127] |
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We should never ever clone humans of any kind. That’s an abomination.
Oh, those weren’t my words. I thought you might be interested in refuting them, here.
So easy a cave man could do it.
“We May Soon Be Able to Clone Neanderthals. But Should We?”
Can we eat them? If not then I say we clone the large mammals instead. Mammoth and Giant sloth steaks for the starvin’ africans.
You might could make an exception to that in a situation such as is described in Genesis 19:32 in which the survival of the human race on the planet appears at stake; but no way in hell should anybody be cloning neanderthals to see if it could be done.
Yeah, I recognized the words, and I thank you again for the ping.
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You’re welcome, SunkenCiv!
I always enjoy the articles you post.
Thanks!
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