Posted on 12/13/2008 3:36:19 AM PST by IbJensen
What if... you woke up one morning and found out that the President of the United States was a USURPER... a FRAUD... a PHONY?
What if... the leader of the free world was constitutionally ineligible to be President of the United States, but was simply allowed to take and hold office anyway?
It's happening RIGHT NOW!
The sad truth of the matter is that President-elect Barack Obama has REFUSED to provide proof that he is constitutionally qualified to hold the office!
Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States, states, "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President..."
Now shockingly, I've heard people say that compelling Obama to validate that he is indeed a "natural born Citizen" is a "technicality" that "should not be taken seriously."
But I take the Constitution seriously. I believe that you take the Constitution seriously. I know our Founding Fathers took the Constitution seriously.And... trust me... Obama is taking the matter seriously!
That's why Obama has continually REFUSED to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate.
That's why his teams of attorney have continually tried to BLOCK efforts to compel him to produce his vaulted birth certificate.
That's why, when the question of Obama's status was first raised, a "Certification of Live Birth" suddenly appeared on his website and you were told that the issue of his status as a "natural born Citizen" was settled.
But the issue WAS NOT settled... what you weren't told is that a "Certification of Live Birth" and a "Certificate of Live Birth" are TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS!
What you weren't told is that the "Certification of Live Birth" - which still appears on Obama's "Fight the Smears" website - IS TOTALLY INADEQUATE when it comes to validating his status as a "natural born Citizen."
Look at it this way. For years, liberal activist judges have legislated from the bench. They have effectively made-up laws out of thin air... we've been told that there were "penumbras" in the Constitution... that the Constitution is a "living, breathing document."
Over a period of years, activist judges have slowly - almost imperceptibly - been able to chip away at your liberties by warping the meaning of the Constitution.
Now consider the following:
If JUST ONE SECTION of our Constitution can be flagrantly and callously ignored...
If JUST ONE SECTION of our Constitution can be reduced to a "technicality" that is not worth enforcing...
...IS ANY PART OF THE CONSTITUTION VALID ANYMORE?
That's WHY Obama MUST be compelled to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate and verify that he IS a "natural born citizen."
If NOT... when it comes to the erosion of our liberties, the bar will have been raised significantly and the consequences would be dire... for you... for your children... for your grandchildren... and for our nation!
The President of the United States can not take office until Congress ratifies the vote of the Electors.
Remind Congress that they swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and that they can not allow a USURPER to be President of the United States.
Tell them they must do their duty and compel President-elect Obama to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate before affirming the vote of the Electors. Tell them that if they fail to uphold the Constitution, it will become worthless and our liberties will become worthless as well.
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Win or lose, freedom loving Americans must draw a line in the sand and demand that the Constitution be upheld. If not, all is lost!
For the Record...Let me make one thing abundantly clear.
I'm not saying that President-elect Obama is NOT constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.
The problem is we simply do not know!
When reports surfaced that President-elect Obama's paternal grandmother was claiming that she was present at Obama's birth in Mombasa, in what is now Kenya, some people dismissed the statement as unsubstantiated.
Then, a "Certification of Live Birth" made its way onto Obama's website. Some said it was a forgery, but the point was actually moot. The document was, and still is, totally inadequate when it came to proving whether Obama is constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.
Then, there were the ambiguous statements from officials in Hawaii who claimed that a "Certificate of Live Birth" DOES exist for President-elect Obama in Hawaii.
However, the laws of Hawaii allow for a child to be furnished a "Certificate of Live Birth" even if the child was NOT born in Hawaii.
So... exactly what is contained on the "Certificate of Live Birth" which is presently under lock and key? If a "Certificate of Live Birth" - the vaulted birth certificate - proves that Obama was actually born in Hawaii, WHY WON'T HE ALLOW IT TO BE RELEASED?
Specifically, the statute reads:
"[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child."
Dr Chiyome Fukino with Hawaii's Department of Health stated:
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
But officials in Hawaii got mysteriously silent and the vaulted birth certificate remains under lock and key. Why?
Then there was the issue of college records that Obama refuses to release. Why? Could those records indicate that he received financial aid as a foreign student?
Recently Dr. Jerome Corsi traveled to Kenya to see if he could find a birth certificate for President-elect Obama but was detained by Kenyan officials. Again... Why?
Janet Porter, writing for WorldNetDaily.com, raises even more questions:
"In Hawaii, a Certification of Live Birth is issued within a year of a child's birth to those who register a birth abroad or one that takes place outside a hospital,' she said."
"'There's the matter that Obama traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan, Southern India and Kenya in 1981. He said he went to Indonesia to see his mother. This seemed plausible, except for the fact that his mother returned to Hawaii in August of 1980 to file for a divorce from her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. Unless she went back to pal around with the man she divorced, she wasn't there at the time of Obama's visit," Porter wrote.
"'There's another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found. If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't have been allowed in – since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department's travel ban list for U.S. citizens,' she wrote.
"'If he couldn't get into Pakistan with a U.S. passport, perhaps he went there with an Indonesian passport. But the only way you can get one of those is if you are an Indonesian citizen.'"
And, finally, one can not shake President-elect Obama's unwillingness to release an authentic copy of his vaulted birth certificate, nor can it be ignored that President-elect Obama has hired teams of attorneys (not individual attorneys but teams of attorneys) to thwart attempts by third parties to compel him to produce a birth certificate.
The question as to whether President-elect Obama is a "natural born citizen" - as REQUIRED (NOT SUGGESTED) by the Constitution - is not just significant... it's now downright compelling.
And it's a question that MUST be answered!
The President of the United States can not take office until Congress ratifies the vote of the Electors.
They must do their duty and compel President-elect Obama to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate before affirming the vote of the Electors. If they fail to uphold the Constitution, it will become worthless and our liberties will become worthless as well.
Win or lose, freedom loving Americans must draw a line in the sand and demand that the Constitution be upheld. If not, all is lost!
Crossing the Rubicon...
Simply stated, if the Electoral College actually allowed an unqualified person to be elected President of the United States, or allowed a person to be elected without verifying that that he or she is qualified, our entire form of government could be compromised!
I don't make that statement lightly. It's not an exaggeration. Liberty and freedom are not the rule in this world. They're exceptions.
In the United States, we take freedom for granted. It's a given. To us it's like breathing or walking. And that's no accident.
Our Founding Fathers established a government under the basic premise that men "are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights." .. rights that could not be taken away because they come from a Power greater than any one of us.
They believed the primary purpose of government was to secure and safeguard those rights and they enumerated those rights in the Constitution and in the Bill of Rights.
Stated in greater detail...
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...."
When the most powerful among us are no longer bound by those founding documents - and, more importantly, when we refuse to hold them accountable - there can be no freedom... no liberty... only unrest... violence... oppression... tyranny... perhaps not tomorrow, but very soon!
Our Founding Fathers knew that all too well.
The action you take now may very well determine the future you leave to your children and grandchildren.
We have indeed crossed the Rubicon.
If we do nothing... we may well be signing the death warrant for our nation.
The action you take or don't take right now will determine our future. What will you do?
The President of the United States can not take office until Congress ratifies the vote of the Electors.
The correct designation for this place is: Peoples' Republic of Hawaii.
Very interesting reading.
No argument with that statement.
Juan McLame would have even been worse. Some of his post-election comments are sickening.
Perhaps with the phony Marxist narcissist Obomba in the White House for two years, we may get an opportunity to clean out Washington; however, things will be in a horrible mess.
A birth certificate is such a simple, basic solution that refusing to produce one arouses suspicions. It's perfectly understandable that people are pursuing this important issue. Laws are not optional for some people. Much more outrage should be gnerated, because Obama is a mere symptom of much bigger problems.
"Rabid Truthers" is an understatement.
I work with a couple of libs who have been saying that about Bush for the last 8 years, ever since he 'stole' Florida. Your position is nothing new.
Last time I checked the Constitution, college records were not needed to show eligibility for president.
I stand corrected. Here’s Berg himself:
“Bush and his cronies made 9/11 happen or let it happen. And, if they let it happen, then they made it happen. Either way, they are responsible; and more important, they have completely and unequivocally covered-it-up!”
http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/philip-berg-seeking-the-truth-of-911
Berg doesn’t specifically claim it was a controlled demolition, just that Bush made it happen.
He was a British subject at birth according to a British law. Should British law affect his status as an American citizen? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, and the fact that so many people on this forum have convinced themselves that this is somewhere in the Constitution is troubling.
He was also a US citizen at birth, and therefore "natural born." That's the end of it.
“If being a Conservative and defending the Constitution is too much work for you, get out of they way. We’ll take it from here. It’s a shame you will forever be blind to the service we perform to your benefit and on your behalf.”
Well said!! I am disappointed to see so many posters on a forum that is supposed to support and defend our Constitution make comments that prove they are willing to “talk the talk” but unwilling to “walk the walk”.
“The fact is, Obama is a natural born citizen.”
May I ask what evidence you have that proves for a “FACT” that Obama is a natural born citizen? I don’t think this issue would have gained so much momentum if there were any “facts” to be had.
The only “fact” that I am aware of is that Obama is hiding the “facts” from us all. The only other “fact” that I am aware of is that some people don’t care enough to fight for the “facts” and some do.
The very last thing anyone wants to do is admit publicly that they've made a stupid mistake! Even when they're forced to admit it they'll try to blame it on some one else. That's why divorces are so messy-- whichever one you are, it has to be the fault of the other one. This case is going to be especially bad since it obviously can't be the fault of "The One". (/sarc)
there are two types of certified copy of birth cert that one can obtain in hawaii. the certification of live birth, which obama’s camp has shown, is the short form version and does not contain the full details as in the long form original birth certificate (which has so far not been released for public scrutiny).
examples of these two versions of the birth cert can also be found in hawaii’s DHHL website.
Enough Already. The Constitution has spoken. Respect the Constitution.
Thank you, sir! I suspect within our own ranks we have a two-part issue. First, many seem not to understand the difference between a “democracy” and a “republic”. They believe we have a “democracy” (a popular-vote mob-rule style government for you lurkers) and do not appreciate the safety-net a “republic” provides. And second, they have adopted the “global” view on society. They cannot comprehend the stark differences between “western” values and the rest of the world. I’m afraid the only real “fix” is for them to attain what they so desperately want, destroy the republic utterly, and then strive to rebuild once they are thoroughly disenchanted with the outcome. That could take generations. It’s a shame we have no Christopher Columbus to lead us to a “new world” so we could leave this corruption of thought behind ...
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You’re voting me off the Island? Oh No! What’ll I do? Where’ll I go? The Truthers have declared me unconservative! It must be true; They know everything...
Trying to overturn an election on a nonexistent technicality is not conservative: it’s madness.
***The folks who passed the 20th amendment were lunatics?
20th Amendment Sct3: “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:59:02 AM · by Kevmo · 79 replies · 1,583+ views
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2145602/posts
The folks who passed the 20th amendment were lunatics?
No; that would be the folks who can’t accept that Obama was born in Hawaii (or that he won.) 8 years of lefty nutcases declaring that W was illegitimate have done serious harm to the republic. I’m not going to follow their example. Obama is wrong about almost everything, but he’s going to be president; there are lots of good reasons to oppose him, but the BC business isn’t one of them.
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