Posted on 12/13/2008 3:36:19 AM PST by IbJensen
What if... you woke up one morning and found out that the President of the United States was a USURPER... a FRAUD... a PHONY?
What if... the leader of the free world was constitutionally ineligible to be President of the United States, but was simply allowed to take and hold office anyway?
It's happening RIGHT NOW!
The sad truth of the matter is that President-elect Barack Obama has REFUSED to provide proof that he is constitutionally qualified to hold the office!
Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States, states, "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President..."
Now shockingly, I've heard people say that compelling Obama to validate that he is indeed a "natural born Citizen" is a "technicality" that "should not be taken seriously."
But I take the Constitution seriously. I believe that you take the Constitution seriously. I know our Founding Fathers took the Constitution seriously.And... trust me... Obama is taking the matter seriously!
That's why Obama has continually REFUSED to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate.
That's why his teams of attorney have continually tried to BLOCK efforts to compel him to produce his vaulted birth certificate.
That's why, when the question of Obama's status was first raised, a "Certification of Live Birth" suddenly appeared on his website and you were told that the issue of his status as a "natural born Citizen" was settled.
But the issue WAS NOT settled... what you weren't told is that a "Certification of Live Birth" and a "Certificate of Live Birth" are TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS!
What you weren't told is that the "Certification of Live Birth" - which still appears on Obama's "Fight the Smears" website - IS TOTALLY INADEQUATE when it comes to validating his status as a "natural born Citizen."
Look at it this way. For years, liberal activist judges have legislated from the bench. They have effectively made-up laws out of thin air... we've been told that there were "penumbras" in the Constitution... that the Constitution is a "living, breathing document."
Over a period of years, activist judges have slowly - almost imperceptibly - been able to chip away at your liberties by warping the meaning of the Constitution.
Now consider the following:
If JUST ONE SECTION of our Constitution can be flagrantly and callously ignored...
If JUST ONE SECTION of our Constitution can be reduced to a "technicality" that is not worth enforcing...
...IS ANY PART OF THE CONSTITUTION VALID ANYMORE?
That's WHY Obama MUST be compelled to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate and verify that he IS a "natural born citizen."
If NOT... when it comes to the erosion of our liberties, the bar will have been raised significantly and the consequences would be dire... for you... for your children... for your grandchildren... and for our nation!
The President of the United States can not take office until Congress ratifies the vote of the Electors.
Remind Congress that they swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and that they can not allow a USURPER to be President of the United States.
Tell them they must do their duty and compel President-elect Obama to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate before affirming the vote of the Electors. Tell them that if they fail to uphold the Constitution, it will become worthless and our liberties will become worthless as well.
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Win or lose, freedom loving Americans must draw a line in the sand and demand that the Constitution be upheld. If not, all is lost!
For the Record...Let me make one thing abundantly clear.
I'm not saying that President-elect Obama is NOT constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.
The problem is we simply do not know!
When reports surfaced that President-elect Obama's paternal grandmother was claiming that she was present at Obama's birth in Mombasa, in what is now Kenya, some people dismissed the statement as unsubstantiated.
Then, a "Certification of Live Birth" made its way onto Obama's website. Some said it was a forgery, but the point was actually moot. The document was, and still is, totally inadequate when it came to proving whether Obama is constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.
Then, there were the ambiguous statements from officials in Hawaii who claimed that a "Certificate of Live Birth" DOES exist for President-elect Obama in Hawaii.
However, the laws of Hawaii allow for a child to be furnished a "Certificate of Live Birth" even if the child was NOT born in Hawaii.
So... exactly what is contained on the "Certificate of Live Birth" which is presently under lock and key? If a "Certificate of Live Birth" - the vaulted birth certificate - proves that Obama was actually born in Hawaii, WHY WON'T HE ALLOW IT TO BE RELEASED?
Specifically, the statute reads:
"[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child."
Dr Chiyome Fukino with Hawaii's Department of Health stated:
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
But officials in Hawaii got mysteriously silent and the vaulted birth certificate remains under lock and key. Why?
Then there was the issue of college records that Obama refuses to release. Why? Could those records indicate that he received financial aid as a foreign student?
Recently Dr. Jerome Corsi traveled to Kenya to see if he could find a birth certificate for President-elect Obama but was detained by Kenyan officials. Again... Why?
Janet Porter, writing for WorldNetDaily.com, raises even more questions:
"In Hawaii, a Certification of Live Birth is issued within a year of a child's birth to those who register a birth abroad or one that takes place outside a hospital,' she said."
"'There's the matter that Obama traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan, Southern India and Kenya in 1981. He said he went to Indonesia to see his mother. This seemed plausible, except for the fact that his mother returned to Hawaii in August of 1980 to file for a divorce from her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. Unless she went back to pal around with the man she divorced, she wasn't there at the time of Obama's visit," Porter wrote.
"'There's another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found. If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't have been allowed in – since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department's travel ban list for U.S. citizens,' she wrote.
"'If he couldn't get into Pakistan with a U.S. passport, perhaps he went there with an Indonesian passport. But the only way you can get one of those is if you are an Indonesian citizen.'"
And, finally, one can not shake President-elect Obama's unwillingness to release an authentic copy of his vaulted birth certificate, nor can it be ignored that President-elect Obama has hired teams of attorneys (not individual attorneys but teams of attorneys) to thwart attempts by third parties to compel him to produce a birth certificate.
The question as to whether President-elect Obama is a "natural born citizen" - as REQUIRED (NOT SUGGESTED) by the Constitution - is not just significant... it's now downright compelling.
And it's a question that MUST be answered!
The President of the United States can not take office until Congress ratifies the vote of the Electors.
They must do their duty and compel President-elect Obama to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate before affirming the vote of the Electors. If they fail to uphold the Constitution, it will become worthless and our liberties will become worthless as well.
Win or lose, freedom loving Americans must draw a line in the sand and demand that the Constitution be upheld. If not, all is lost!
Crossing the Rubicon...
Simply stated, if the Electoral College actually allowed an unqualified person to be elected President of the United States, or allowed a person to be elected without verifying that that he or she is qualified, our entire form of government could be compromised!
I don't make that statement lightly. It's not an exaggeration. Liberty and freedom are not the rule in this world. They're exceptions.
In the United States, we take freedom for granted. It's a given. To us it's like breathing or walking. And that's no accident.
Our Founding Fathers established a government under the basic premise that men "are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights." .. rights that could not be taken away because they come from a Power greater than any one of us.
They believed the primary purpose of government was to secure and safeguard those rights and they enumerated those rights in the Constitution and in the Bill of Rights.
Stated in greater detail...
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...."
When the most powerful among us are no longer bound by those founding documents - and, more importantly, when we refuse to hold them accountable - there can be no freedom... no liberty... only unrest... violence... oppression... tyranny... perhaps not tomorrow, but very soon!
Our Founding Fathers knew that all too well.
The action you take now may very well determine the future you leave to your children and grandchildren.
We have indeed crossed the Rubicon.
If we do nothing... we may well be signing the death warrant for our nation.
The action you take or don't take right now will determine our future. What will you do?
The President of the United States can not take office until Congress ratifies the vote of the Electors.
Does that include the fraudulent ACORN votes from the dead, the graveyards, dogs and cats too?
Just asking.
Obama will face no consequences about the birth certificate controversy....IMO
If we’d be talking about a Republican having this problem, the newspapers would be all over it.
When I mentioned this to a few people, they knew NOTHING about it. This is just the beginning of how Obama will be protected by the media.
My point was a) you don't actually know what these peasants have said, if anything; and b) there are reasons that hearsay (and this isn't even real hearsay, it's "netsay") is not evidence in our tradition.
Yeah. To hell with the Constitution. It was YEARS ago that anybody died for it! /sarc
So if enough people wrote in votes for Robert Mugabe to get him 270 electoral votes, would you be okay with that? How about Vladimir Putin? How about Hugo Chavez, or Fidel Castro?
The Founders put that requirement in the Constitution for a reason. They Founded a Constitutional Republic for a reason. I trust their wisdom (yes, dead white guys that they are) more than that of a media-manipulated hoard of sheeple who elected an empty-suit Marxist Alinskyite of questionable background and credentials and who is nothing but a fabrication of the media.
Resistance to the marxists thugs is futile is it not?
Ahhhh...Errrrr...
Respect the constitution?
Don't you know that the Obama admin is so progressive it will replace the old Left “living constitution” with the new Left officially defunct “anachronistic constitution?”
Adapt or be “re-educated!”
The camps will be waiting.
That's not even an argument. The fact is, Obama is a natural born citizen. I've looked at Berg's arguments; I've read all about Kenyan claims; none of it passes the smell test.
I think 47% of the population is more than capable of taking care of themselves and each other.
If being a Conservative and defending the Constitution is too much work for you, get out of they way. We'll take it from here. It's a shame you will forever be blind to the service we perform to your benefit and on your behalf.
Being a conservative means, in part, accepting reality, and picking your battles wisely. Trying to overturn an election on a nonexistent technicality is not conservative: it's madness. The constitution is under assault from many quarters, and there's plenty of work to do. The Obama birth truthers are not conservative, and they're not defending the constitution. They're trying to overturn the results of an election they are unhappy about, just like the SoreLosermen 8 years ago. The difference is, this time the count is not in doubt. We didn't steal the election in 2000; Bush won by the rules. Now, Obama has won by the rules. I will oppose his liberal policies, and I will support him when I can; that is the conservative way. It is you, and others who won't let this go, who are in the way of the restoration of conservatism.
We got one in power now - he passed himself off as a Republican.
Hussein must offer proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he is a natural born citizen. He has been legally challenged. Rather than produce the requisite documents, he has lawyered up like a Mafia Don. He has spent over 800 G’s on three legal firms, and is thumbing his nose at many of the American people’s demands that he satisfy a basic constitutional requirement. He has insulted our intelligence by proffering an obviously fraudulent Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth as proof of his natural born status, despite the criminal ramifications of such actions.
Three presidential candidates have had their constitutional eligibility challenged in the 20th and 21st centuries, Barry Goldwater, George Romney, and John McCain. All of these men produced the requested documentation for legal analysis. None of them hid behind surrogates and all of them at one time or other addressed the issue in public. None of them relied exclusively on surrogates to speak for them on this matter.
Far more damage will be done to the country if a usurper is allowed to take office, subsequently shown to be ineligible after having signed legislation, initiated ratified treaties, made appointments to US offices, ordered troop movements, only to have all those official acts reversed after the truth comes out. I would rather deal with the riots attendant on keeping him out of office than face a civil war. That war will not be a War Between the States like our affair in the mid 19th Century, where one faction wanted to secede and leave the Fed Gov intact. Both sides, with the exception of Guerrilla skirmishes in the border states, faced off using Napoleonic era tactics with clearly delineated borders. This conflict would be an intermingled inter and intrastate struggle over who controls the government. It would be ugly and probably brutal beyond belief. We must do all that we can do NOW to prevent such a hideous possibility.
If it is apparent beyond reasonable doubt that Hussein is not a natural born citizen, then we must look to any and all legal and constitutional actions to deny him the presidency. If the constitution of the US is not worth defending against mob rule, then nothing is. If we wish to preserve the republic, than we had best let the chips fall, and then sort them out. By whatever means necessary.
We who value the constitution will not allow the moral emphasis of this argument to be inverted. All this speculation, correct or not; has come about because this lying crypto-marxist thug from the most corrupt environs of leftist Chicago sewer politics has ascended to POTUS-elect status with the willing acquiescence of the MSM. The MSM was hell-bent on concealing this usurper’s background because they wanted him to be elected. Now, in a classic case of blame the messenger, those of us who believe in the constitution are being reviled for insisting that a POTUS comply with a basic requirement that most of us unhesitatingly conform with when seeking a driver’s license.
Ask yourself, what kind of narcissistic, self absorbed individual rends the public tranquility like this when the remedy is so easy for a legitimate candidate? The arrogance and effrontery of this man is breathtaking. The founders knew that they were not natural born citizens, so they had to include language in Art II Sec 1 that exempted THEM. Does this fraud think that he is better than Washington, Madison, Adams, and Jefferson in that sense? Apparently he does, and with the acquiescence of enough people, he will succeed in usurping and corrupting the Executive Branch of government. This situation presents the very real possibility of impelling this great nation beyond a constitutional crisis toward a civil war.
Many decry us for undertaking a hopelessly Quixotic enterprise, doomed to failure. Perhaps so. Therefore, I recall you to a time when a group of men, who were attempting to bring a new vision of liberty and democratic republican governance to the world vowed their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to that task. Yes, the group of men who were the Founders. I believe that Barack Obama is a unique domestic threat to the republic that they founded that I have never seen before in my lifetime. Hussein is a man who has stated his contempt for a “fundamentally flawed” constitution. I believe that he is prepared, by dint of education and inclination, to destroy or significantly weaken it. He could be our version of Julius Ceasar, a precursor to the end of our Republic, unless we oppose vigorously oppose him NOW before he gets into office. (If he can prove his natural born status, then I will accept that and oppose him on policy being CERTAIN that I will have to owing to his already professed world view)
Finally, consider the implications of a man who would undertake these devious machinations to knowingly assume an office that he has no constitutional claim to, and than to see this same counterfeit president elect take an oath to defend that constitution. I believe that such a man would be willing to impose ANY sort or despotism or tyranny upon us to retain power.
Well, no, since the scenario you describe wouldn't run afoul of the "natural born citizen" requirement, unless the child was born outside the US. As to proof, unless there's a massive conspiracy which includes hospital bureaucrats, local newspapers (in 1961!) and local and state government officials in Hawaii as well as numerous judges up to and including at least 4 Supreme Court Justices, the proof has been provided to the people who need to see it. I don't have to prove a thing, and I have examined the "proof" that's being circulated by the birth-truthers. It's not just lame; it's Andrew Sullivan lame. (Or do you think Sullivan has a right to Trig's birth certificate too?) Worse, to the extent it gains any traction (which thankfully it's not) it threatens conservatism by making us all look like tin-foil-hatters.
wow, that was long.
I stopped reading after it said congress could pass a new law. Can’t pass a law ex post facto.
Words mean things. I didn’t say your scenario was not troubling; I said it’s not a constitutional argument, absent Putin’s “love child” being born outside the US. I dont “feel” I am a constitutional conservative; I am. There is no constitutional issue concerning Baracks’ birth place. It’s been resolved to the satisfaction of the relevant authorities, and the vast majority of conservatives. I find many things about Obama troubling, as I said. But this line of attack is worse than erroneous; it’s counter to the conservative cause. It makes us no better than the Kos kids, the 911 “truthers” or DU.
Again, give it up. There’s real work to be done.
If it were resolved to the relavent satisfaction of authorities, then why doesn’t the State Dept. claim to have a copy. It is this Dept. that has requested the copy multiple times, as is the case for any Candidate. All other Candidates provided proof. A verifiable original or copy of the original vault certificate.
Obama has only produced a doctored-up COLB image.
Obama should not be allowed to trample on the Constitution and he isn’t even President yet.
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