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To: so_real
Would you feel the same if Vladimir Putin had won the popular vote and the USA became the USSA?

That's not even an argument. The fact is, Obama is a natural born citizen. I've looked at Berg's arguments; I've read all about Kenyan claims; none of it passes the smell test.

I think 47% of the population is more than capable of taking care of themselves and each other.

If being a Conservative and defending the Constitution is too much work for you, get out of they way. We'll take it from here. It's a shame you will forever be blind to the service we perform to your benefit and on your behalf.

Being a conservative means, in part, accepting reality, and picking your battles wisely. Trying to overturn an election on a nonexistent technicality is not conservative: it's madness. The constitution is under assault from many quarters, and there's plenty of work to do. The Obama birth truthers are not conservative, and they're not defending the constitution. They're trying to overturn the results of an election they are unhappy about, just like the SoreLosermen 8 years ago. The difference is, this time the count is not in doubt. We didn't steal the election in 2000; Bush won by the rules. Now, Obama has won by the rules. I will oppose his liberal policies, and I will support him when I can; that is the conservative way. It is you, and others who won't let this go, who are in the way of the restoration of conservatism.

51 posted on 12/13/2008 10:08:38 AM PST by xlib
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To: xlib
So ... Vladimir Putin visits America, knocks up a teenage American girl, fathers a male child, indoctrinates the child into his world views during the child's formative years, and 35 years later buys the U.S. Presidency for the child through the U.S. main stream media. Is that an argument for you?

FRiend, not only is that an argument, but it is precisely the Pandora's Box the Framers worked to keep closed with the "natural born" requirement in the Constitution. AND it draws a striking parallel to the events of this last election. This is the peak of slippery slope. Are you prepared to open the door to insurgence from within? The Framers were not.

The fact is, Obama is a natural born citizen.

Prove it ... You can't ... Any and all documents that could prove it have been locked away where you can't see them. The fact is, by Obama's own admission, he was also a British citizen at birth --- JUST LIKE THE FRAMERS OF OUR CONSTITUTION WERE. Unless Obama also happened to be living at the time the Constitution was adopted, the exception the Framers made for themselves with regard to the "natural born" status does not extend to him. Being a British citizen at birth precludes a "natural born" status.

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President"

This is not about overturning elections. This is about defending the Constitution. It's an unpopular position right now, but I'll stand with the Conservatives. I believe it's what Washington would have done.
53 posted on 12/13/2008 10:59:38 AM PST by so_real
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To: xlib
The fact is ... the smell test

You know truth by its smell. Lucky you. The rest of us have to work at it with experience, reason, research, experiment, and review, a constant process or refinement.

You, however, are among those gifted with a sense of Truth-smell. You, and those others like you, don't have to observe, reason, review, research, think, discuss etc. etc.

Lucky you! Lucky those like you!

LOL!

72 posted on 12/13/2008 8:15:50 PM PST by bvw
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To: xlib

“The fact is, Obama is a natural born citizen.”

May I ask what evidence you have that proves for a “FACT” that Obama is a natural born citizen? I don’t think this issue would have gained so much momentum if there were any “facts” to be had.

The only “fact” that I am aware of is that Obama is hiding the “facts” from us all. The only other “fact” that I am aware of is that some people don’t care enough to fight for the “facts” and some do.


91 posted on 12/15/2008 10:37:51 AM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: xlib

xlib
or
relib?


97 posted on 12/15/2008 4:55:21 PM PST by Gemsbok
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To: xlib

Trying to overturn an election on a nonexistent technicality is not conservative: it’s madness.
***The folks who passed the 20th amendment were lunatics?

20th Amendment Sct3: “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:59:02 AM · by Kevmo · 79 replies · 1,583+ views
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2145602/posts


99 posted on 12/16/2008 11:12:42 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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