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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: BP2

Can you make any sense out of the thing I sent the five of you last night....

Thought about putting it i timeline form but was just too tired and you’re much better at that.

Our town had a big fire and I couldn’t sleep with the smoke in the air.

Not sure how awake I was.


8,641 posted on 08/11/2009 8:47:30 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Was up most of the night researching and writing freep mails....will send you the outcome when I get my thoughts organized.

Right now it’s time to put blueberries in the freezer. Had to buy instead of pick this year.


8,642 posted on 08/11/2009 8:51:55 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: All

Look: He he he Look like the GLOBE is doing the job!

Birthers pick up support in Virginia, North Carolina
National Post ^ | 8/11/09 | Editors

Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:27:54 AM by pissant

Birthers appear to be gaining ground in the Old South, where a large percentage of voters in two states claim they are unconvinced that Barack Obama is a natural born American.

A poll carried out by Public Policy Polling, a firm based in Raleigh, N.C., found that only 53% of voters in Virginia believe the President was born in the United States, against 24% who are convinced he’s a foreigner, and 24% who aren’t sure.

In addition, a blog on CQ Politics, a site sponsored by Congressional Quarterly, says results from a similar poll in North Carolina found that 47% of Republicans think Mr. Obama was born outside the U.S. Only 24% are convinced he’s an authentic American, and 29% aren’t sure.


8,643 posted on 08/11/2009 8:58:04 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Have you tried Ibuprofen? It is a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug, which relieves pain and swelling.

I took a nasty dump 14 days ago, and that is what I am on (600mg). I only take it in the morning because that is when I am most sore. I could take it at night, but I don’t need it. One pill takes me through the day, and it takes effect in about 1 hour.

We can get them over the counter here in Panama. I don’t know if one can in the states without doctors’ orders.

Once the swelling goes down, the pain goes down to nearly nothing.

I’m sorry about your eyes. I wish I could do something about it.


8,644 posted on 08/11/2009 9:04:38 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: BP2; Fred Nerks; hoosiermama
It's almost as if attorneys looked at the events in his life, figured out the pinch-points, and had Obama "reconstruct" the facts to keep him "legal" or leave room for doubt ... just crazy, huh?

At what point in time did he start "reconstructing" the facts about his life? His Illinois state senate campaign, his Illinois U.S. Senate campaign, or before then? When was Dreams From My Father written?

If his personal history has been "sanitized" (I am agreeing with you) they started working on it years back.

8,645 posted on 08/11/2009 9:10:38 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

LOL — stying off this thread would probably cure me quick, but I have to keep checking in just to see where it is going! LOL. Already there are a couple more posts of interest to follow. Little did I know when I discovered this thread Aug. 2 that I’d still be here Aug. 11!

My excuse for being back at the computer right now is that I just started the dishwasher. I don’t want to take the chance as starting my shower until the water is all in, or I’ll get scalded.

Will Ibuprophin reduce swelling? I never thought about that before.


8,646 posted on 08/11/2009 9:11:03 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: thecodont

Dreams from my father was published in 1995 when he was 34 years old, but he started it in 1990. (slow writer?) He claims that he was offered several lucrative book contracts upon being elected as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He graduated from HL in 1991. (J. Corsi)

But, I think he’s been dissembling about his life his whole life. He’s had to make excuses for himself from the beginning because he didn’t have a father, his father was a different race, he didn’t have a mother, his sister was a diffeent race, he ilved with his grandparents, etc.


8,647 posted on 08/11/2009 9:18:17 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: thecodont

IMO Dreams was written to fill in the spaces created when true informaton was scrubbed.

But as I pointed out in my looooong thought post: He can’t be sure he’s gotten EVERY bit of information scrubbed....So when something like Orly’s BC comes up, he’s as worried as we are excited. And must go into action immediately to minimize it.


8,648 posted on 08/11/2009 9:19:04 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I meant to add that he wrote Dreams from my father before he started his political career.


8,649 posted on 08/11/2009 9:19:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); afraidfortherepublic

Will Ibuprophin reduce swelling? I never thought about that before

NEWS to me too. How about ALEVE?


8,650 posted on 08/11/2009 9:21:46 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: WhiskeyX
Thanks for the suggestion. The actual link is:

Questions and Answers on Dual Citizenship

Hiw website actually is www.richw.ORG.

8,651 posted on 08/11/2009 9:34:56 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: hoosiermama

Ibuprophin does reduce swelling and subsequently reduces pain. I am delaying a possible knee replacement by taking it. However my physician frowns on it as it works against high blood pressure medication. I use it as sparingly as possible.

Thanks for all your good investigative work. Hope the Globe article will convince some people who never follow the news.


8,652 posted on 08/11/2009 9:52:41 AM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: RegulatorCountry

What does Osborn v Bank of the United States have to do with Article Two, Section One, Clause Five?
It has as much to do with it as did the 14th Amendment, jamese777, which is to say nothing. But, it does, however, state quite clearly why there are no laws pertaining to natural born citizens made by Congress, and that is that the Constitution alone makes the distinction, because the enumerated power of the national legislature is to prescribe a uniform law of naturalization. Naturalization has nothing to do with natural born. You can scroll up to my reply to this very thread, at #8377, or, oh, what the heck, I’ll post it again:

A naturalized citizen is indeed made a citizen under an act of Congress, but the act does not proceed to give, to regulate, or to prescribe his capacities. He becomes a member of the society, possessing all the rights of a native citizen, and standing, in the view of the Constitution, on the footing of a native. The Constitution does not authorize Congress to enlarge or abridge those rights. The simple power of the national legislature is to prescribe a uniform rule of naturalization, and the exercise of this power exhausts it so far as respects the individual. The Constitution then takes him up, and, among other rights, extends to him the capacity of suing in the courts of the United States precisely under the same circumstances under which a native might sue. He is distinguishable in nothing from a native citizen except so far as the Constitution makes the distinction. The law makes none.


However naturalization has nothing to do with Obama’s eligibility claim. He claims natural born citizen/citizen at birth status under Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution and he has proffered a state of Hawaii Vital Record stating that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii after it attained statehood on August 4, 1961 at 7:24 P.M.
Congress has indeed made laws that define and explicate Citizen-At-Birth status. It is my opinion that the constitutional question that remains for the Supreme Court to decide is whether a Citizen at birth as delineated in the US Code of Laws and a Natural Born Citizen as it appears in the Consitution are identical or not.
Here is a listing of the court cases where the term “Natural Born Citizen” has appeared:
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/the-natural-born-citizenship-clause-updated.html


8,653 posted on 08/11/2009 10:02:11 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Congress has indeed made laws that define and explicate Citizen-At-Birth status

So, let's take a look at these laws, to determine whether they're:

A) Unconstitutional due to Congressional overreach, beyond express limitation to naturalization by the Constitution itself, or:

B) Only dealing with naturalization, and therefore not natural born, which is therefore correct per the power enumerated to Congress by the Constitution itself.

You keep banging your head on this, but if what you repeatedly insist is so, it's either unconstitutional or the law only deals with naturalization. Take your pick. It can be no other way, jamese777.

8,654 posted on 08/11/2009 10:13:02 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Fred Nerks

You have FReepmail.


8,655 posted on 08/11/2009 10:23:58 AM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Banks in many offshore countries will no longer open accounts for US Citizens who don't have a second passport What???? I never heard of such a thing, but that doesn't mean that it is not true. As I remember, that is why I wanted my mother to claim an Irish pssport so that I could get one too. That privilege does not extend to GREAT grandchildren. But she wasn't interested at the time, and I doubt that I could interest her now. She's 96. Actually "wasn't interested" is a mild description. She was downright hostile! LOL Why does an offshore bank want to be sure that a US Citizen has another passport? So that the US citizen can quickly escape the US for some reason? Where does that put US Citizens who routinely work overseas? Now my mind is spinning crazily...LOL

The bank comment is a one to one fact in my business life currently. Investors are attempting to move liquid assets out of the US and are having difficulty doing so because of lack of cooperation from the offshore banks.

What I don't get about the great grandchildren is this--if the grandson gets the passport, why doesn't his kid then get it as his child? Or does he? I suppose what you are saying is that you, as a greatgrandchild can't get one direct; if your mother had, you would have also.

8,656 posted on 08/11/2009 10:29:10 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: David

Yes. As I understood it at the time, if my mother had not taken up the option to request a Passposrt as the granddaughter of and Irish citizan — a man she’d never met because he died around 1895, that option would be denied me. That was Irish law at the time. I’m not even sure that they allow grandchildren that option any more.

Now, if my mother had held an Irish Passport, I could then claim one on the basis of hers, and so could my children.

Keep in mind that this is my interpretation of the LAW via my “degree” in newspaper reading. LOL


8,657 posted on 08/11/2009 10:38:02 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: David

Of course this is all a rather specious argument that would depend upon gathering a lot of “probably” non-existent papers since my great grandfather emigrated here at the age of 11 and joined the Union Army when he was old enough to carry a gun for Mr. Lincoln.

The rest of my ancestry doesn’t qualify for any kind of dual citizenship because they all came here starting in 1607 — Jamestown — and in the 1630s to New Sweden (now Philadelphia).

Too bad, so sad. I’m stuck with Obama.....and his devious schemes.


8,658 posted on 08/11/2009 10:43:47 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This was posted on another thread....Can we verify it?

According to health record statistics, there were 8 births of children in 1961 not attended by a doctor, nurse or mid-wife in Honolulu County, Hawai’i.


8,659 posted on 08/11/2009 11:20:58 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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Placemark.


8,660 posted on 08/11/2009 11:24:45 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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