Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
Hard line Marxist push for his government-controlled ObamaCare
Hard line Marxist push for his government-controlled ObamaCare
Obama Set to Force ObamaCare while His Eligibility Trial Date Set?
By Sher Zieve Wednesday, September 9, 2009
As rumors that Obama plans to—again—resuscitate his hard line Marxist push for his government-controlled ObamaCare (the so-called “public option” that is no option at all) down the throats of the American people during his Wednesday night speech, something else is looming on the horizon for the dictator-in-chief.
While Obama was delivering his “love me and support me” speech to our nation’s children, the hearing on a motion for discovery regarding the eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to even occupy the Office of the Presidency of the United States—Keyes v Obama—was underway.
Note: All other efforts from multiple other attorneys handling multiple other cases have been denied by courts that strongly appear to have been intimidated by Obama‘s DOJ.
On Friday 7 September, the US Justice Department advised federal Judge David O. Carter to dismiss the case on their previously highly successful (if bogus) “standing“ argument; which claims that—even if the merits of the case are correct—plaintiffs cannot show they have experienced harm. Instead, on Tuesday, Judge Carter heard Attorney Orly Taitz’ motion and set a tentative and expedited trial date for 26 January 2010. The date is tentative as Judge Carter will be addressing the ObamaAttorneys’ motion to dismiss the case on 5 October. If Obama’s motion to dismiss is not granted, Taitz’ discovery hearing will take place that same day and the case challenging Obama’s eligibility will proceed. As Obama has reportedly spent between $1-1.5 Millions to hide his school and true birth records, this would be the first time We-the-People would have access to them.
Note: As of this writing not one of the major news outlets (aka Obama’s State-run media) have reported anything at all on Judge Carter’s ruling.
In the meantime, however, Dictator-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama continues his attempts to force draconian and Orwellian ObamaCare and Cap and Trade down our throats. Not only is he not listening to the American people he is overtly telling us ‘I don’t give a damn what you want. This is MY country and no longer yours! I’m in power, now.’
In the meantime, the ObamaCongress has just announced that it will work to raise the debt (aka theft from and gutting of the USA) ceiling above $12 Trillions. In other words, Obama’s and his minions pilfering from and to be implemented total control over the American people is still well underway. Folks, not only is it not time to end our fight, it’s time to amplify it!
FULL SPEED AHEAD!
Anyone know if he has changed his position? This is the biggest strife Between he and Orly. Kreep refused to plea in the alternative.
Orly is contending he has not changed his position. Kreep’s argument, which I don’t accept, is that the case will be weakened with alternative claims. I understand that Kreep wants to focus exclusively on the requirement to be born on U.S. soil and not include the born to two U.S. citizen parents reqirement. This is just opposite of Mario Arpuzzo who is concentrating exclusively on the born to two U.S. citizen requirement. Mario believes the born to two U.S. citizen requirement requires no additional proof since Obama has admitted his father’s foreign alienage. The dispute seems more ego based than anything since I’m sure there is enough case work to go around. Kreep should work on developing his theory and then Orly can concentrated on the other - they should team the presentation. If she continues to argue this issue in public after the Judge has told her to work with Kreep, she is going to irritate the hell out of the one man who she needs on her side.
Why was there no deposition?
Because a) it’s not the discovery phase of the trial and b) even if it was the discovery phase, the attorneys had not been notified and c) even if it was the discovery phase, you don’t conduct a deposition in open court.
I don’t know what is more impressive. The fact that Orly passed the CA bar or the fact that she passed it without apparently ever studying procedure. She seems to have learned how to be an attorney from watching Night Court re-runs.
Kreep is arguing using his BAD INTERPRETATION of ‘NBC’. You also seem to go along with the theory that Obama was NOT born in Hawaii. As long as Kreep is allowed to litigate his mis-interpretion, he then lends credibility to Obama and his case of not needing both parents to be citizens and that his dual citizenship is not an issue.
This is very dangerous for our national security. We should never have had someone attain to the office of president who had foereign allegiances let alone foreign intrigues!
For the 1st time in American history, Ramadan will be celebrated at the foot of the Lincoln memorial. Obama is allowing Islam to politicize and sell their radical views right in the middle of our nation's most precious monuments. The one monument that holds to the most history of human rights and unless Kreep has an epiphany as to the truth, he will be one of Obama’s biggest witnesses.
Kreep need not and should not undermine either prong of Article II. He can present his own prong and let Orly present the other. Kreep doesn’t need to undermine Orly to make his case since both prongs are required under Article II.
That’s not what the Judge said.
Filed & Entered: 09/10/2009 Minutes of In Chambers Order/Directive - no proceeding held
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19633550/03118745409
Filed & Entered: 09/10/2009 Ex Parte Application for Order re Discovery Matter
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19633565/03118746941
and
I like this bit...
“thereby fraudulently attempting to subject all Americans to Federal municipal law and to inflict unlawful dominion upon Them without Their knowledge or informed consent, thereby perpetrating a fictitious Government de facto upon all Americans, and thereby falsely depriving all Americans of Their fundamental Right to enjoy a Government de jure and the other Blessings of Liberty, at all times and at all places within the lawful jurisdictions of the United States and of the several (50) States, in further violations of the Federal statutes at 42 U.S.C. 1985 and 42 U.S.C. 1986;”
There is an amazing article by Canada Free Press out that reads like an indictment for conspiracy by the Democratic Party. Sorry I don’t know how to activate address
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14583
What you have posted is
1)an order referring (handing off) the discovery motion to the magistrate judge
2)&3) requests by Obama’s attorneys to have all discovery stayed (stopped)
Oops, another typo? The reference to Obama’s constitutional eligibility was missing… An accidental omission?Much, much more at the iontheball's link above.The text certifying that Barack Hussein Obama was “legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution” had been removed from the document sent to the states. And yes, I have a copy of this version of the DNC Official Certification of Nomination letter too!
In fact, this version is in Election Commission files of all fifty state Election Commission offices, state DNC headquarters, complete with date stamps, matching signatures, even the same Notary of Public authentication, and absent the constitutional text.
Just in case you are wondering, the answer is yes. This version also includes the same typo present in the version not submitted by the DNC, but including the constitutional text, which means both documents have the same place of origin.
The individual at DNC headquarters who prepared this very important document was not only a poor typist… they were sloppy enough to leave both versions of the signed documents lying around.
Now this is the stuff real conspiracies are made of!
The Implications Please, allow me to connect the dots here…
•The DNC drafted, signed and notarized TWO slightly different versions of their Official Certification of Nomination documents, not one.
•One of those documents had complete legal language, and one of them was missing the text concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.•The version which is absent any certification of constitutional standing for the office of President is the version that was filed with every state in the country, and the one used by the DNC to elect Barack Obama President.
Oh, there is one more important document in this story.
The RNC “Official Certification of Nomination” for John McCain and Sarah Palin reads, and I quote:
“We do hereby certify that a national convention of Delegates representing the Republican Party of the United States, duly held and convened in the city of Saint Paul, State of Minnesota, on September 4, 2008, the following person, meeting the constitutional requirements for the Office of President of the United States, and the following person, meeting the constitutional requirements for the Office of Vice President of the Unites States, were nominated for such offices to be filled at the ensuing general election, November 4, 2008, viz;”
What’s not what the judge said?
I’m explaining to you why there was no deposition.
The reason is because it would be a violation of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
Filed & Entered: 09/10/2009 Ex Parte Application for Order re Discovery Matter
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19633565/03118746941
...the part of the order beginning with "except" looks to me to be an invitation for Orly to immediately petition the Court for discovery regarding the original best evidence HI BC vital records and the two complimentary Kenya BCs from 1961 and 1964. Orly would clearly have grounds to establish the validity of those documents to “counter the grounds set forth (by Obama’s team) in said motion to dismiss”:
“IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that all discovery herein, and proceedings related thereto, be stayed pending the resolution by this Court fo Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss, not set for hearing on October 5, 2009, except for any discovery as to which Plaintiffs can demonstrate, to the satisfaction of this Court, that they need to counter the grounds set forth in said Motion to Dismiss.”
So an order that starts out sounding like a stay of all discovery actually is an order permitting any discovery that Orly can persuade the Court that she needs to defend against the Motion to Dismiss!
You would have to read the motion to dismiss to determine what discovery may be reasonably related to the motion. My understanding is that the motion is the same ol’ same ol’ standing argument. This is a procedural issue that would not get to the merits or the BCs. However, thank God the judge has already signaled that he is not inclined to buy this argument. What he has done is to assign the motion to dismiss and discovery to the magistrate, who works under his supervision.
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