What Karl Rove Should Tell La Raza

Human Events ^ | 07/10/06 | The Human Events View

[garbageseeker]

White House adviser Karl Rove is scheduled to speak tomorrow at the annual conference of the federally funded, left-wing, open-borders-advocacy group, the National Council of La Raza.

If he does not want his speech to look like an act of appeasement, he should confront La Raza on its opposition to commonsense policies designed to secure both U.S. borders and U.S. pocketbooks.

La Raza, which means “The Race” in Spanish, has denounced as “horrendous” and “appalling” the House immigration bill passed in December, which was sponsored by Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R.-Wis.) and supported by the overwhelming majority of House Republicans. The bill, which calls for tough worksite enforcement of immigration laws and 700 miles of border fencing, was condemned by La Raza as a “laundry list of mean-spirited and intrusive provisions concocted by the most radical immigrations restrictionists in Congress.”

Will Rove defend the immigration reforms passed by President Bush’s party in the House and tell La Raza that House Republicans are neither “mean-spirited” nor “radical”? He should. House Republicans deserve Rove’s support.

[kellynla]

"I will let you know what Lou Dobbs has to say about Karl Rove making the deal to the La Raza devil."

Thank you. It's a sad day when we have to depend on CNN to support the anti-illegal immigration & border/port security issues.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"What legislation has he submitted to massively increase the number of Border Patrol Agents?"

That won't be necessary if the flow is directed properly.

"What legislation has he submitted to build a physical barrier (fence, wall, or whatever you want to call it)?"

Not needed, not effective.

You have bought into the idea that those things are the only way to "fix" the borders, and that's simply not true.

There are other, more effective ways to control the borders, and creating an organized, monitored entry/return program for guests workers is a great start.

[sinkspur]

Many right here denigrate him for it -- and his warning about the voting machines, too.

Further proof that Dobbs is a Democrat. The only people who talk about voting machines are Democrats.

[Luis Gonzalez]

When then Vice President George Bush introduced George P. Bush and his siblings as his "little brown ones", was he being racist?

[skeeter]

Boy, you Bushbots can slither out of almost anything.

They're feelin cocky. Bush is bumping 40% approval.

[garbageseeker]

He can get away with saying "little brown ones" with his own family without fear of reprisal. If a white person said "Hello, little brown person" to any Hispanic on the street it is very likely that person would be attacked by a mob and up in the hospital.

[Luis Gonzalez]

In The Impact of Agricultural Guest Worker Programs on Illegal Immigration, the report explains how in varying forms from 1942-1964, the bracero program allowed the admission of Mexican farm workers to be employed as seasonal contract labor for U.S. growers and farmers. Although facilitating legal entry for agricultural work proved effective, today, the idea of allowing regulated, legal entry that employs market principles to fulfill labor demand otherwise filled by individuals entering illegally is considered, depending on one’s viewpoint, either novel, radical, or bold.

The report finds that “By providing a legal path to entry for Mexican farm workers the bracero program significantly reduced illegal immigration. The end of the bracero program in 1964 (and its curtailment in 1960) saw the beginning of the increases in illegal immigration that we see up to the present day.”

It is recognized that the number of INS apprehensions are an important indicator of the illegal flow and that, in general, apprehension numbers drop when the flow of illegal immigration decreases. From 1964 -- when the bracero program ended -- to 1976, INS apprehensions increased from 86,597 to 875,915 – a more than 1,000 percent increase, indicating a significant rise in illegal immigration. The report found that “Additional factors in illegal immigration rising during this period included economic conditions in Mexico and the lack of a useable temporary visa category for lesser skilled non-agricultural jobs.”

“This is not to say that the bracero program was without controversy or that workers who entered through the program did not experience problems or even hardships,” says Anderson. “The point is that when lawful temporary admissions were prevalent, illegal entry to the United States was low. After the program was curtailed and later terminated, illegal immigration rose steadily.” The report notes that “No one advocates resurrecting the bracero program in its various forms. Yet a revised H-2A visa category that meets the needs of both employers and employees would make a significant contribution to reducing illegal immigration in agriculture. “

The report also concludes:

• The data show that after the 1954 enforcement actions were combined with an increase in the use of the bracero program, INS apprehensions fell from the 1953 level of 885,587 to as low as 45,336 in 1959 – indicating, based on apprehensions data, a 95 percent reduction in the flow of illegal immigration into the United States. During that time, the annual number of Mexican farm workers legally admitted more than doubled from 201,380 in 1953 to an average of 437,937 for the years 1956-1959.
  
  
• “Without question the bracero program was . . . instrumental in ending the illegal alien problem of the mid-1940’s and 1950’s,” wrote the Congressional Research Service in a 1980 report.
  
  
• In the 1950s and 1960s, senior law enforcement officials in the U.S. Border Patrol and elsewhere in the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) understood and promoted the use of market forces to reduce illegal immigration and control the Southwest border. A February 1958 Border Patrol document from the El Centro (California) district states, “Should Public Law 78 be repealed or a restriction placed on the number of braceros allowed to enter the United States, we can look forward to a large increase in the number of illegal alien entrants into the United States.”
  
  
• When at a Congressional hearing in the 1950s, a top INS official was asked what would happen to illegal immigration if the bracero program ended, he replied, “We can’t do the impossible, Mr. Congressman.”
  
  
• The evidence indicates that a reasonable enforcement deterrent at the border is necessary to enable a temporary worker program such as the bracero program to reduce illegal entry. Yet the evidence is also clear that enforcement alone has not proven effective in reducing illegal immigration. INS enforcement did not grow weaker after the 1960 curtailing of the bracero program or after the program’s subsequent demise in December 1964. And both after 1960 and 1964, without the legal safety valve that the bracero program represented, illegal immigration increased substantially.
  
  
• The current temporary worker visa category for agriculture, which U.S. employers consider burdensome and litigation-prone, fails to attract a sufficient number of participants to be part of the solution to illegal migration,” Anderson concludes. “While the bracero program has been criticized, that does not mean that it is impossible to devise a temporary worker program that takes into account the needs of both workers and employers. That would reduce illegal immigration by providing legal, market-based alternatives to the illegal entry that we see today on the Southwest border of the United States.”

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[garbageseeker]

What Karl Rove said was an extremely racist statement by calling Hispanics "brown people"

[SealSeven]

Its still a very racist and elitist statement Karl Rove made.

Absolutely

He thinks that all Hispanics are "brown people".

Yep, he made a very condescending statement.

[garbageseeker]

Rove made a racist and very ignorant statement. I am suprised that a man of his education and political expertise would make an ignorant statement like that.

[garbageseeker]

To a congressman.

[SealSeven]

Agreed

[kellynla]

hey, genius, like I have told you before;
when you are prepared to pony up to the teller and pay the FIFTY BILLION A YEAR..NET that illegal aliens are costing those of us who actually PAY TAXES every year in America,
then and only then will we even consider paying any attention to the lame opinions you post.

in the meantime,
tell your friends to GO HOME and get in line like everybody else!

Class dismissed!

[garbageseeker]

Rove & the Bush Administration are more concerned with illegals than Americans, enforcing the immigration laws and securing our ports & borders... nothing new here.

They are selling out America to Mexico for people who will not vote for Republicans.It as sunk to the level of appeasement to illegal immigration. I will let know on Lou Dobbs

[sinkspur]

What Karl Rove said was an extremely racist statement by calling Hispanics "brown people"

It's no more racist than calling black people "black people."

Which is to say, it is not racist at all.

[garbageseeker]

Excellent Post!!

[rottndog]

Not needed, not effective.

You have bought into the idea that those things are the only way to "fix" the borders, and that's simply not true.

The fences work wherever they are tried (robust fence system combined with vigilant patrolling). Don't take my word for it, look at the stats for illegal crossings in San Diego before and after an effective fence system was built. You can't tell me that a good fence system won't be effective at deterring most of the illegal crossings--it already is.

Once again, I never said a fence was the ONLY WAY to deal with illegal immigration. With a fence, AND strong interior ENFORCEMENT, much of the illegal immigration will be DETERRED in that most potential illegals will have to confront the difficulty of getting across an effectively protected border, and then if they do make it they will be living with a high level of expectation that they will be caught, arrested, prosecuted (repeat illegal border crossers), imprisoned for a period of time, and then deported.

Both of these elements are missing from Bush's idea (since he doesn't have a stated plan) and the Senate's shamnesty bill. You can have all the new rules and regulations you want regarding a "Guest Worker" plan, but without strong ENFORCEMENT FIRST, there will still be massive illegal immigration.

[garbageseeker]

Stop drinking the Kool Aid

[Luis Gonzalez]

Some say we should pass (another) enforcement-only bill and leave for later talk of a new temporary worker program. The problem is that those who say we should not permit more people to work on legal temporary visas until we "control the border" have it backwards: The only proven way to control the border is to open up paths to legal entry, allowing the market to succeed where law enforcement alone has failed.

Beginning in 1942, the Bracero Program allowed Mexican farm workers to be employed as seasonal contract labor. Despite these legal admissions, limited enforcement and other factors provided little deterrent to illegal entry until 1954.

That is when a controversial crackdown on illegal immigration ensued. Importantly, Immigration and Naturalization Service Commissioner Joseph Swing preceded the crackdown by working with growers to replace an illegal, and therefore unpredictable, source of labor with a legal, regulated labor supply. The workers, being rational, preferred entering legally, and Mr. Swing received praise for pushing the substitution of legal for illegal workers.

Bracero admissions rose from approximately 201,000 in 1953 to more than 430,000 a year between 1956 and 1959. The increased Bracero admissions produced dramatic results. Illegal entry, as measured by INS apprehensions at the border, fell by an astonishing 95 percent between 1953 and 1959. (Apprehensions fell to 45,336 in 1959, compared to more than 1 million in both 1954 and 2005).

However, complaints from unions led to the end of the program by 1964. What happened to illegal immigration after we stopped letting Mexican farm-workers enter legally? It skyrocketed. From 1964 to 1976, while the number of Border Patrol agents remained essentially constant, INS apprehensions of those entering illegally increased more than 1,000 percent. -- Source

[garbageseeker]

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