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An Open Letter to Mr. Jim Robinson
April/25/05 | jveritas

Posted on 04/25/2005 6:13:10 AM PDT by jveritas

What is happening to Free Republic Mr. Robinson? The Bush Haters and Republican Haters are getting louder and more daring by the hour. These phony conservatives who claim the Conservatism purity are savagely attacking President Bush and the GOP as bad as the worst liberals.

The Bash Bush feast is becoming a part of every thread. Everywhere you see Bush is a traitor, Bush wants to sell our sovereignty to Mexico, Bush is a liberal, Bush has no spine, Bush is destroying our economy, Bush is puppet in Vincent Fox hand, Bush is this Bush is that, everything wrong in this world is Bush fault.

Nothing but doom and gloom is coming from these phony conservatives. For them our economy is destroyed, liberals are controlling the government, the GOP will be finished by 2006, Mexico has invaded the US and changed its identity, China is superior to us, we are no more a superpower, and on and on and on. Every minor bump in the road is turned into a Mount Everest of catastrophe and disaster

Either Free Republic will remain the Premier political forum on the internet, a site to advance the real conservative cause and provide great and continuous support to our President Bush and the Republican Party, or it will be forum controlled by bitter and delusional phony conservatives who can never win on the ballot box, and come to FR to poison the atmosphere through their extreme kooky rhetoric and turn it into another Dummyland.

Enough is Enough.


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To: Billthedrill
"There is also a partisan aspect to this that is a sad fact of modern politics. Republican strategists are reluctant to take courses of action that will alienate the Hispanic vote, especially now that it is trending their direction. Democrats are pushing for full voting rights for illegals out of the conviction that they will benefit from their numbers. Both of these positions are, in my view, short-sighted and sordid but they're an inescapable feature of practical politics."

This is the reason for the apparent paralysis. I honestly believe that this is at the root of it. All the Democrats see, when they view home videos of thousands of Mexicans marching like a human snake across the borders........is VOTES for them. Meanwhile, the Republicans don't want to alienate those already here and partially assimilated. What they don't realize is that a majority of the Latino community don't want this uncontrolled illegal flood, either!

Thanks for your reply, Bill!

Take care!

Char :)

641 posted on 04/27/2005 9:45:04 PM PDT by CHARLITE ("People are not old, until regrets take the place of their dreams." - John Barrymore)
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To: Billthedrill
Mind you, conservatives who do insist that the federal government do something about this are voting for a larger, more expensive, more pervasive government.

It does not go against conservative principles to expect the federal government to fulfill its constitutional responsibility of protecting the nation's borders. The military and border patrol are two aspects of the federal government that are necessary.

Protecting the border certainly can't be compared to a great society social program.

642 posted on 04/27/2005 9:56:36 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Billthedrill
Republican strategists are reluctant to take courses of action that will alienate the Hispanic vote, especially now that it is trending their direction.

Agreed. This is why its doubtful that the GOP will retain the senate or white house in 2008. The GOP has become the party of fiscal liberal/social conservatives. (By social conservative, I mean "morality" not anti social programs. The GOP has shown that is very much in favor of social programs.)

Unless things drastically change, their will be no energy in the 2008 GOP campaign. It will 1996 all over again.

The GOP has essentially made illegal Mexican immigrants the power center of the party. Instead of Bush being remembered as the president that stood up to terrorism, he risks being remembered as the president that surrendered our national sovereignty to Mexico.

643 posted on 04/27/2005 10:06:14 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: dirtboy

"Sorry, dude, but Bush is dead wrong on many of his stances on immigration, and he was way off-base with his attack on the Minutemen Project. But, true to form, you attack prinicpled conservatives because they have the nerve to disagree with Bush."

EXACTLY!


644 posted on 04/27/2005 10:19:20 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Protecting the border certainly can't be compared to a great society social program.

Oh, I quite agree. The problem is that many of the people who will be charged with designing a federal border protection program don't live there and don't care much for the people who do. That's why I'm so much in favor of keeping it as local as possible. Yes, it's absolutely a legitimate function of the federal government. But they're not the experts in the matter, even if they tell you they are.

645 posted on 04/27/2005 10:52:07 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
The problem is that many of the people who will be charged with designing a federal border protection program don't live there and don't care much for the people who do.

It doesn't have to be that hard. Just build a fence like Israel did. It may cost a few billion dollars, but I'm sure the states of Texas and Arizona would gladly front the money since they lose are being drained by social services spending by the illegals now.

Also, its not like the Federal government has to create any new laws. Border patrol is already one of its responsibilities. Illegal immigration is already, by definition, illegal. Employing illegal immigrants is also already illegal.

If the existing laws would just be enforced by the Bush administration, especially going after employers of illegal immigrants, most of the problem would go away.

Bush simply doesn't have the will, for whatever reason, to enforce the immigration laws of this country. Instead, he actually encourages illegal immigration.

646 posted on 04/27/2005 11:04:07 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: HiJinx

bttt


647 posted on 04/27/2005 11:35:32 PM PDT by lainde
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To: JeffAtlanta

The plans for North American Union of Canada, Mexico and the US, including the common currency were all published over 30 years ago by the Trilateral Commission. None of us believed it then but this old conspiracy theory is today's harsh reality for a New World Order.

http://usinfo.state.gov/usinfo/Archive/2005/Mar/23-215428.html


How long will we be the "Country of Choice" if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries who come to live in America because we have made America their "Country of Choice"?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1390577/posts?page=565#565


648 posted on 04/27/2005 11:45:29 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423)
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To: Eaker

post 617--interesting!


649 posted on 04/28/2005 12:41:52 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Ron in Acreage


I agree with you on the border point's but I will not sit out the next election.I will work as hard as I did for the person I think is good for this country as I did for Bush&Cheney in the last election.I worked my rear off for Bush the last election and I would do it again.I just do not understand Bushes position on the borders.It is not Anti- American to disagree with President Bush.Just Anti-American to do it the way the liberals do..No one is perfect!


650 posted on 04/28/2005 3:29:58 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: HiJinx

Bush is doing a lot of good. However, my mom is so ticked off after he called the Minutemen vigilantes, she took all her beloved photos off the wall. She asked me what I thought. I said, "Remember I held my nose for him in 2000?" I've tried to believe in him as more than a 'lesser evil', and this issue makes that very difficult. His pandering of the Clintons also makes it difficult. Here we have Bush chumming around with Clinton while Frist is re-opening the Clintons' IRS scandal.

FRegards....


651 posted on 04/28/2005 4:00:33 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: rface
A top reason to be a "conservative Republican" is to support smaller, less intrusive, cheaper government that doesn't do things it shouldn't be doing by the Constitution.

And, does do things it should, like securing our borders.

A lot of conservatives are disappointed, I suspect, about how non-conservative this administration is in many ways, like the borders, the over-extension of government, and the debt.

652 posted on 04/28/2005 4:09:01 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: grania

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653 posted on 04/28/2005 5:02:25 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423)
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To: HiJinx

"My beautiful desert and mountains are now little more that sewers and garbage pits; the livelihoods of the ranchers in my communities are being destroyed; my neighbors are being attacked, assaulted, and killed; private property is stolen and destroyed; my local hospitals are being forced to cease offering emergency services; and my tax dollars are being spent to support lawbreakers.

And you expect me to accept this as a political issue? Not in my America, sir. No thank you, no thank very much."

Aha! The dirty little secret no news media dares to film!
If Americans from Boston to L.A. saw what was REALLY happening with these illegals, and the consequences of their invasion, America would be up in arms like the aftermath of 9/11 !!!!


654 posted on 04/28/2005 6:33:23 AM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: HiJinx

"Do you realize, in a post 9/11 world, how absolutely criminal it is to say that we have to wait yet another 18 months before the employees figure out how to do their jobs?"

Yeah, let another 5 million in, which is exactly what this administration is doing ........God only knows why Bush wants to destroy the middle class. The illegals have replaced most of the blue collar jobs in California. Soon, there will be none.


655 posted on 04/28/2005 6:41:35 AM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: jveritas
You know, I stopped coming to freerepublic the last time this issue came up (when the word amnesty was brought up) I was called many creative names, not a real conservative etc. for not toeing the line on immigration.

"but they should be disciplined and tamed down."

I am certain I am not the only one who left on account of the name calling and general nastiness. You don't get much more tamed down than gone. If I had my way, this and spending would be at the top of every page in 72 pt. text flashing red.

The bottom line is that there is no compromise. I consider the security of our borders to be just as important, if not more so, than the bill of rights. If Republicans want to keep me and my family voting for them, they need to act. At this point it has gone on so long that only actions that bring results will be recognized. No more debate for debates sake, no more half assed proposals. Do the job you were elected to do, or don't expect my vote.
656 posted on 04/28/2005 6:41:47 AM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: jveritas
"As I said before President Bush and the GOP will do something about the illegal immigration issue and the borders before the end of 2006."

Well that would be nice wouldn't it?
However, considering that we have an estimated 10 - 20 MILLION illegals here now, what was wrong with doing something, anything, in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 ?

We fined a grand total of 124 employers in 2003 for hiring illegals. Let me know when we have hit .001 % with our enforcement efforts inside the US. The border patrol agents recently added, should have been there from day one, x10.

It is hard to take a political party seriously when they don't do the same for the issues of concern to the citizenry.
657 posted on 04/28/2005 6:56:45 AM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: jveritas
"As I said before President Bush and the GOP will do something about the illegal immigration issue and the borders before the end of 2006."

Well that would be nice wouldn't it?
However, considering that we have an estimated 10 - 20 MILLION illegals here now, what was wrong with doing something, anything, in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 ?

We fined a grand total of 124 employers in 2003 for hiring illegals. Let me know when we have hit .001 % with our enforcement efforts inside the US. The border patrol agents recently added, should have been there from day one, x10.

It is hard to take a political party seriously when they don't do the same for the issues of concern to the citizenry.
658 posted on 04/28/2005 6:58:42 AM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: TheSpottedOwl
How do we rally the people to look beyond the Republicrats, and see other parties as viable alternatives.

I'm going out on a limb here, but I'll just say it.. you know how shy I am already.. This party is being highjacked by RINO's and they are cowing the rest with their flirtation with an adoring POS MSM. IMO, the Dem party has been thoroughly hijacked by commie/socialist/fringe/Luddite/criminal no-loads, but the Dem voters were too stupid to see it, and just kept pulling the lever because they can't frikken think for themselves.. After all, they have to be shown what HOLE to punch, to figure things out.

Pubs, are smarter than that. And, they have seen what happened the dem party with the freaks get in control, and they are getting pissed off. I believe, that one reason there is so much anger in the Republican party is that we've been forced to believe that they are the only game left in town, when that's not true. We are crushing the MSM, and I think.... here's the big finish!!... we need to promote true conservatives and stand behind them. I am SICK of the time wasting pigs, that ignore National Security....and how their game playing foot dragging pansyass ways of playing footsie with the media is hurting all American citizens.. I am SURE, we can win as conservatives, and frankly, if the timid pubs in Congress are too afraid to fight the media like the rest of us, we don't need them anyway. With a couple of exceptions, most are so much more comfortable bending over at the waist for Democrats. I'll tell you right now, if McCain gets CFR2 through, we are IMO in deep bandini..

I am not suggesting that we lose control of Senate or House, but I am saying that PRESSURE in the right direction, may scare the others straight. If not, investigate their butts and throw them out or censure them.

I'm only mentioning other parties, because most of the Republicans have turned into a herd of RINOS. They can no longer be counted as constitutional conservatives.

Yes, that's a provable fact. Who needs them... they can NOT be counted on as anything but media whores. Notice how they RARELY IF EVER, debate among themselves, but rather throw up their nasty faces on the tube and drop a bomb on the others... THIS is how democrats play, and this is how we must meet them in battle..

However...if the hildabeast runs, I will vote for who ever can beat her.

Same here. Did she ever return all the stuff to the WH??

659 posted on 04/28/2005 7:08:48 AM PDT by JesseJane (Senate Republicans = Fainting Goats.... BOO! ~Close your wallet~)
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