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Smart Case, August 3, 2002
08/03/02 | Jolly Green

Posted on 08/02/2002 10:49:55 PM PDT by Jolly Green

Time Line
04/01/01 Sunday Ricci burglarizes a Smart neighbor's home taking various items.
06/05/01 Tuesday Ricci steals items from the Smart home while he is employed there as a handyman. Ricci is charged in July of 2002 of 1 count of theft related to the Smart incident.
05/30/02 Thursday ~ Ricci returns to pick up his Jeep at the auto repair shop before the shop has a chance to fully fix it He tells the repairman that it needed for an emergency.
06/04/02 Tuesday ~ Ricci is at work from about 9am to 5:30pm
~ Ricci claims he spends the evening with friends
06/05/02 Wednesday ~ 1:05am - 2 cars are spotted on the SLC Shriner's Hospital Parking Lot by a hospital security guard, two blocks from the Smart residence
~ 1:30am (approx) - Elizabeth is kidnapped from her home
~ 1:30am - Ricci claims to be in bed asleep with his with wife.
~ Ricci is scheduled to be off work all day today.
~ 7:21am - Rachel/Amber alert is issued and national media is involved.
~ 8:30am - Ricci and his neighbor talk about the kidnapping of Elizabeth, Ricci seems to know too much information about it.
~ Sometime during this day Ricci is visited by police in regards to Elizabeth's kidnapping as reported by Angela Ricci (Richard A. Ricci's Wife which is an ex-convict herself)
~ Ricci is seen by his neighbor digging a hole by his (Ricci's) trailer early in the morning. (heard the neighbor say this on TV)
06/06/02 Thursday ~ Ricci is scheduled to work from 9am to 5:30pm today, but instead works from 10:30am to 7:00pm
~ Police talk to Ricci this day about the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping. (The media is reporting this, so it could be wrong)
06/08/02 Saturday ~ Ricci returns the Jeep to the repair shop to get it fixed. The Jeep is muddy and the repair shop owner sees Ricci remove seat covers from the back of the jeep and place them into a plastic garbage bag that already contains other stuff in it. Also the repair shop owner said a muddy post hole digger was in the back of the Jeep, Ricci removes this also. Ricci has a man waiting across the street to give him a ride. Ricci takes the plastic bag and contents along with the post hole digger with him. Also there is 500 to 1000 extra miles on the Jeep since Ricci picked it up on May 30th, 2002.
06/14/02 Friday ~ Ricci is taken into custody for a parole violation, this being drinking while on parole and association with other ex-cons.
07/11/02 Thursday Formal charges are filed against Ricci (2 counts of theft & 1 count of burglary) on the theft & burglary of the Smart neighbors home which occurred in April 2001, and 1 more count of theft for stealing from the Smart home on June 6th, 2001.
Special thanks to Brigette for starting this timeline.


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To: lakey
What happened to the bank robbery charge?

I believe that the arrainment has not taken place yet.

101 posted on 08/03/2002 9:09:20 PM PDT by sandude
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To: varina davis
A "loner." Someone she sat next to at a church social after she had performed on her harp? He would be very flattered?

I hope LE has checked them out, too. Sometimes kinda hard to believe they are on top of this case.

102 posted on 08/03/2002 9:11:56 PM PDT by lakey
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To: sandude
"My rudeness was uncalled for" - did I apologize? I think so.

Perhaps you should go back & read the insults other freepers have endured, sandude, with no apologies.

103 posted on 08/03/2002 9:15:07 PM PDT by lakey
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To: sandude
I think if LE knew that Ricci was not involved they would make an announcement clearing him.

As I've speculated in prior posts, I don't think that's necessarily so, if they're trying to make a possible (as yet unnamed) abductor feel less threatened.

104 posted on 08/03/2002 9:15:15 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: lakey
A "loner." Someone she sat next to at a church social after she had performed on her harp? He would be very flattered? I hope LE has checked them out, too. Sometimes kinda hard to believe they are on top of this case.

It's stretch for me to think Ricci is involved (I know, I could be wrong), it just doesn't fit his M.O. criminal history.

It DOES fit the M.O. of an awful lot of child snatchers of late and in past years -- a loner type, insecure, not especially random or impromptu.

An alternate, though less firm theory, is that it is someone who perhaps perceived (rightly or wrongly) that Elizabeth was having personal problems and wanted to take her away from those problems.

105 posted on 08/03/2002 9:27:27 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: lakey
"My rudeness was uncalled for" - did I apologize? I think so.

Perhaps you should go back & read the insults other freepers have endured, sandude, with no apologies.

You are correct. This forum has at times been a real brawl. It has been better lately (Jolly's on vacation) but there is still room for improvement. Jen's main complaint was that you were accusing her of disrupting when she was simply asking you a question. There was nothing confrontational in her remarks, just a desire to have you explain your position. You mistook this as a challenge from her. Is she entitled to make a challenge? Did she call you any slanderous names? Her insights may now be lost to our forum and that is unfortunate. It seems as though any of us who have agreed with Jolly at one time or another are automatically associated with his rudeness. There are times I would like to spank him so to speak but I do agree with some of his ideas on this case. I hope that Jen comes back because we need people who can express themselves without being rude.

106 posted on 08/03/2002 9:29:25 PM PDT by sandude
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To: varina davis
I don't think that's necessarily so, if they're trying to make a possible (as yet unnamed) abductor feel less threatened.

Yes weve had this discussion. I maintain that Ricci's lawyer would be raising hell if they were letting his client twist in the wind for no good reason.

107 posted on 08/03/2002 9:32:55 PM PDT by sandude
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To: sandude
Yes weve had this discussion. I maintain that Ricci's lawyer would be raising hell if they were letting his client twist in the wind for no good reason.

His lawyer doesn't seem like much of a hell raiser. He was not exactly a bundle of righteous energy. He's probably looking at no (or at best a nominal) fee, and zero glory in this case.

108 posted on 08/03/2002 9:42:07 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
>What happened to the bank robbery charge?

Ricci was indicted for the bank robbery a long time ago, Jul 17.

109 posted on 08/03/2002 9:42:10 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: varina davis
Correct - "Zero glory."
110 posted on 08/03/2002 9:46:41 PM PDT by lakey
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To: varina davis
As I've speculated in prior posts, I don't think that's necessarily so, if they're trying to make a possible (as yet unnamed) abductor feel less threatened.

LE said they have evidence Ricci was involved but not enough to indict him. Any theory that somehow Ricci wasn't involved is purely wishful thinking.

111 posted on 08/03/2002 9:47:28 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: sandude
I hope that Jen comes back because we need people who can express themselves without being rude.

Cheer up. She'll probably be back --- for certain she is lurking. A few posters have signed off in a huff, only to emerge at a later date.

112 posted on 08/03/2002 9:48:41 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
actually , I have been on Free Republic for several years, except under a differant name...which I forget now but I suppose I could look up....got disgusted at some things and left but not for long..

I was here way back in the early Drudge days...the quidam day..the Deep in the Huntgren forest days, and the tsunami days....remember Iowa Hawk....he was great...

I even went to the dinner in Wash. DC several years ago with my dtr and sat with freepers from Virginia....that night. Jim robb and Lucianne actually sat at the same table....lol....that was a great evening...think it was at the HIlton....anyone who went can remember that we got Anne Coutlters first book on our chairs....

so I have been here a long time....there has always been a lot of in fighting but mostly not childish....mostly done on theories and beliefs...not personal vendettas....

113 posted on 08/03/2002 9:48:53 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Sherlock
LE said they have evidence Ricci was involved but not enough to indict him.

SOURCE PLEASE!

114 posted on 08/03/2002 9:49:55 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: cherry
My first post on FR was to Don Morgan re: money & the Federal Reserve. Don't recall who said what. Later he got disgusted with something or other & left in a huff. (He & his wife had a newborn, so maybe he needed sleep.) I'll bet he's back under another name.
115 posted on 08/03/2002 9:53:51 PM PDT by lakey
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To: Sherlock
Ricci was indicted for the bank robbery a long time ago, Jul 17.

That is correct but he has not been arraigned yet.

116 posted on 08/03/2002 9:54:03 PM PDT by sandude
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To: sandude
Yes weve had this discussion. I maintain that Ricci's lawyer would be raising hell if they were letting his client twist in the wind for no good reason.

Police have made it clear they have evidence Ricci is involved in the kidnapping and they want the guy that picked him up from Moul's garage on Jun 8. They are very anxious to speak with him and probably believe he's the guy that went in the house. Again, I can't imagine they don't know who he is, Ricci has a limited reportoire of partners in crime, maybe he has disappeared?

117 posted on 08/03/2002 9:55:05 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: varina davis
He's probably looking at no (or at best a nominal) fee, and zero glory in this case.

If his lawyer knew that they didn't have the goods on him he could make plenty of hay off of this. I think that he knows that his client may be involved and doesn't want to look like a fool if LE uncovers something that is damning.

118 posted on 08/03/2002 9:58:19 PM PDT by sandude
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To: Sherlock
Police have made it clear they have evidence Ricci is involved in the kidnapping

When did police make "it clear" and to whom? When did LE state they "have evidence" implicating Ricci? Or is it just your opinion that it is "clear?"

119 posted on 08/03/2002 9:59:25 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis
SOURCE PLEASE!

"It shows a pattern of his conduct. He’s capable of committing thefts. We have someone who broke into the Smart residence in the middle of the night," said Chief Rick Dinse.

While police chief Rick Dinse says these theft charges show a "connectivity" to the Elizabeth Smart case, Ricci has not been charged with her kidnapping.

"If I could’ve charged him I’d charge him. That doesn’t mean I don’t have anything linking him to the case, I’m not saying that. If I could charge him and prove it today we’d file on it today," said Dinse.

http://pub37.ezboard.com/felizabethsmartcaseforumfrm13.showMessage?topicID=12.topic

120 posted on 08/03/2002 10:06:07 PM PDT by Sherlock
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