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TxBec | 07/23/2002 | TxBec

Posted on 07/23/2002 3:25:06 AM PDT by TxBec

I have been thinking lately it would be nice to have a thread (maybe even a forum later?) for the homeschooling families, because you know how many of us there are. This would not replace us pinging each other with all the great articles we find. It would be a place where we could discuss what curriculum we use, vent when needed, share our successes, compare notes, alert each other to cool things we find on the internet, and vent some more. I'm sure we all have found other sites with forums that we use, but since FReepers are such a cool breed, where better to start up a forum? What do you think?


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To: TxBec
Please add me to the ping list.
361 posted on 09/03/2002 9:48:24 AM PDT by PMCarey
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To: TxBec
Any pointers on how to get on the ping list? I homeschool as well, and would love the info
362 posted on 09/03/2002 6:33:02 PM PDT by TYBEEISLAND
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To: TxBec
Great idea! Keep me on the list, please.
363 posted on 09/05/2002 9:29:32 PM PDT by womanvet
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To: TxBec
I am interested in home schooling my son. He is a sophomore in high school who has a history of never doing well in the traditional setting. I also cringe at what he is being taught in the public school setting. His father and I have even lowered our standards by allowing him to participate in PBD (performance based diploma) which is basically a short-cut, quick-fix for lazy kids to do easy work on the computer at their own pace and still recieve an actual diploma. That reddens me. What message does a program like that send to the "lazies"? (I can always weasel by with shortcuts) and to the students who do the entire curriculum in the traditional classroom setting; they have worked very hard to earn the SAME diploma the "lazies" earn. My son will almost ceertainly not graduate high school unless I pull him out and home school him. The biggest issue is this though: he is an only child (with drug and law-enforcement issues) and I do not think he will take my teaching him very well. Also, because of the "only child" thing, he has screamed isolation most of his life. But according to his grades, that seems to be the only reason he attends school. He is failing everything and completely failed his freshman year. Things are not looking any brighter. Any suggestions please from those who know? (School is where he is also getting the drugs. No big surprise there, huh?)
364 posted on 10/07/2002 11:00:22 PM PDT by Lyrica
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To: GingisK
That's great! How do you tell what "level" your child is reading at?

I homeschool my daughter, who just turned 6 the end of July. I taught her to read a month prior to that. She reads at a very elementary level, though. How can I determine what grade level that is?
365 posted on 10/08/2002 5:44:03 AM PDT by Patriot61
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To: Lyrica
What a hard situation you have. I agree that getting him out of that environment and homeschooling would be good for him. I take it he disagrees? What state are you in? My advice would be to start with Home School Legal Defense. ..Search the net to see if you have a local homeschool support group.

Here are a few other links that may help you

Homeschooling Today

Homeschooling 101

Why Homeschool?

I'll add you to our "ping" list and ask other families for their 2 cents.

366 posted on 10/08/2002 5:51:03 AM PDT by TxBec
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To: Lyrica
one more link
367 posted on 10/08/2002 6:01:23 AM PDT by TxBec
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To: Lyrica
Your son is like I was 20 or more years ago. The difference is that I'm female, but, like him, I was mostly in trouble and I took the lazy shortcuts in school, graduating by the skin of my teeth. I hated school from the first day of Kindergarten, even though I was one of the smarter kids in class and could pass easily with little effort. My father is not a fan of homeschooling for everyone, and he wants me to put my own children in school. But, he told me recently that, if homeschooling had been an option in those days, he would've pulled me out of school. After high school, I performed well in college. So, perhaps your son just needs a different setting in which to learn (and where he cannot obtain drugs). We homeschool our children, but they're very young, so I cannot compare them; however, if I had a teenage son in trouble, I would definitely pull him out of that setting and educate him at home.
368 posted on 10/08/2002 8:30:10 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Lyrica
I hope and pray for your sake that if you do decide to homeschool him, the educrats do not come after you. Seems lately that whenever I read/hear about parents who pull their kids out of govt. school, they have a very difficult time as the educrats think this is wrong.

As for curriculum--as you know there is plenty in which to choose from. You might want to order a variety of homeschool catalogs so you can see what is available.

If he is not up to par on certain subjects do not hesitate to use a book/program that is a different grade level so that you can bring him up to speed. I would certainly concentrate on "core" subjects before adding extras.

I've been reading and hearing how many schools are attempting to get rid of textbooks and replacing them with a laptop for every student. Imagine--a child can use a mouse but cannot use paper and pencil to write. This generation will be deficient in many areas, IMO.

When making curriculum choices, do you want a Bible-based curriculum or non-secular?

Saxon would probably work for math. I personally prefer Bob Jones for math but that is what works for my kids. You will find many opinions but only you know what is best for your child.

Hope I haven't confused you.

369 posted on 10/08/2002 11:13:05 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: MasonGal
Just curious, what is your education level? I have heard about people who home-school through 12th grade, and most states take a rather dim view of this. My wife and I have three bachelors' degrees between us, and we nevertheless feel uncomfortable about this sort of thing.
370 posted on 10/24/2002 8:48:13 PM PDT by towanda666
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To: towanda666
Well - I have an Associate's Degree in Applied Business (in other words - Secretarial - LOL. My husband has a Master's Degree. We have homeschooled our 3 sons for 11 years--our oldest is now a sophomore in college (rec'd. a partial scholarship to Transylvania University in Lexington, KY). Our soon-to-be 16-year old (a sophomore in high school) is doing exceptionally well in all of his studies. He took an entrance exam last year --as part of the application process to St. Xavier (prominent Catholic high school here in the Lousiville area) and was accepted into the honors program there. Our youngest son is a 5th-grader.

I only say these things to let you know that - hey - if we can do it - I'm sure that you can do it. :))

Our sons have been involved in baseball, tennis, scouting, youth group, orchestra, etc., etc. - very well-rounded individuals--lots of very good friends. (We had 35 teen-agers at our house last year for my son's 16th birthday party)

By the way - the college application process for my oldest son went very well - went smoothly - homeschooling was not an issue at all.

We've been in communication with Notre Dame University - that's where my middle son wants to attend - and they have told us that homeschooling is not an issue as far as they are concerned. In fact, they said that they would be very eager for us to continue on in the application process with them when the time comes.

Sorry to ramble on and on - I just feel passionate about this - because, as I say, if we can do it - I KNOW that you can do it. One more thing - we have taken advantage of several "outside" classes through the years - my sons have taken Latin for several years now - and we've also used correspondence schools which cater to homeschoolers--Seton Home Study School.

If you want to freep-mail me privately, feel free to do so.

Good Luck!! :))

371 posted on 10/25/2002 8:55:05 AM PDT by MasonGal
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To: towanda666
Well - I have an Associate's Degree in Applied Business (in other words - Secretarial - LOL. My husband has a Master's Degree. We have homeschooled our 3 sons for 11 years--our oldest is now a sophomore in college (rec'd. a partial scholarship to Transylvania University in Lexington, KY). Our soon-to-be 16-year old (a sophomore in high school) is doing exceptionally well in all of his studies. He took an entrance exam last year --as part of the application process to St. Xavier (prominent Catholic high school here in the Lousiville area) and was accepted into the honors program there. Our youngest son is a 5th-grader.

I only say these things to let you know that - hey - if we can do it - I'm sure that you can do it. :))

Our sons have been involved in baseball, tennis, scouting, youth group, orchestra, etc., etc. - very well-rounded individuals--lots of very good friends. (We had 35 teen-agers at our house last year for my son's 16th birthday party)

By the way - the college application process for my oldest son went very well - went smoothly - homeschooling was not an issue at all.

We've been in communication with Notre Dame University - that's where my middle son wants to attend - and they have told us that homeschooling is not an issue as far as they are concerned. In fact, they said that they would be very eager for us to continue on in the application process with them when the time comes.

Sorry to ramble on and on - I just feel passionate about this - because, as I say, if we can do it - I KNOW that you can do it. One more thing - we have taken advantage of several "outside" classes through the years - my sons have taken Latin for several years now - and we've also used correspondence schools which cater to homeschoolers--Seton Home Study School.

If you want to freep-mail me privately, feel free to do so.

Good Luck!! :))

372 posted on 10/25/2002 8:56:34 AM PDT by MasonGal
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To: homeschool mama
We have been homeschooling for 2 years. I didn't want to do it at first, but my husband got deployed just a couple of days before school started. I knew that it was going to be hard on my daughter to start school for the first time, and deal with her dad not being home for awhile. So, I decided to homeschool. I have enjoyed it so much, and I see the benefits of it. So, my husband is home, and I am still continuing. As for the socializing...I feel great that I have better control over who she is socializing with. I also enjoy having better control over what she is learning, and that I can cater her learning to how she enjoys it.
373 posted on 12/12/2002 6:27:21 AM PST by JennieOsborne
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To: towanda666
HSLDA has education stats on parents who homeschool. Interestingly enough, parents with or w/o degrees tend to have children with similar outcome in test scores. Keep in mind that homeschooled children test out 30% higher than their public schooled peers...on the average.

www.hslda.org

374 posted on 12/12/2002 8:02:16 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: JennieOsborne
Hi Jennie. So nice to see you on the homeschool threads...thanks to the urging and encouragement of your hubby. :o)

I agree with everything you mentioned in your post.

Have a super day.

<)))><

375 posted on 12/12/2002 8:04:08 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: homeschool mama
David has been trying to get me on here for years. However, when a homeschool thread opened up, I figured I could give it a shot. **smile** It's always wonderful have a "support group" you can chat with. I don't always have time to go to a meeting, so this is next best thing.
376 posted on 12/12/2002 2:19:23 PM PST by JennieOsborne
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To: TxBec
sounds great!!!!:)
377 posted on 12/27/2002 10:44:50 PM PST by goodseedhomeschool
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To: goodseedhomeschool
We have homeschooled our 13 year old son for 5 years now. I am very proud of him. He is in grade 9, 5 college credits under his belt. Speaking of belt, he got his black belt last week in karate. He has worked very hard to come this far. We thank God every day, that Georgia has good laws for homeschoolers, and that public school institutions have not been a hiderance for him.
378 posted on 12/27/2002 10:49:58 PM PST by goodseedhomeschool
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To: *Homeschool_list; 2Jedismom; homeschool mama; BallandPowder; ffrancone; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; ...
Came across this "socialization rant".. thought you might like to see it..
For 4 years I have homeschooled and I have very well rounded children that can carry on a conversation in a polite and intelligent manner. Yet I am still questioned about socialization, even by other Christians. Actually alot of Christians seem to use the social aspects as a reason to keep their kids in public school.

So I need to do my rant!

From the dictionary..

so·cial·ize
v. so·cial·ized, so·cial·iz·ing, so·cial·iz·es
v. tr.
1)To place under government or group ownership or control.
2)To make fit for companionship with others; make sociable.
3)To convert or adapt to the needs of society.

As a Christian I do not feel any of these definitions apply to me. I am not of this world. I do not belong to the Gov. I belong to God as do my children. Companionship with Jesus is way more important then with others (society) and I do not feel my children need to convert or adapt to this world, on the contrary they are as christians to be set apart from this world.

Now here is a new word to be used in place of "socialization"...

fel·low·ship n.
1)
A)The condition of sharing similar interests, ideals, or experiences, as by reason of profession, religion, or nationality.
B)The companionship of individuals in a congenial atmosphere and on equal terms.
2)A close association of friends or equals sharing similar interests.
3)Friendship; comradeship.

How come no one ever asks me "What about your childrens fellowship?"

2Corinthians 6:14 "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?"

Kids do not only go to school and "socialize" with other kids. They also "socialize" with teachers whom do not concern themselves with the moral and biblical view but thier own political and idealogical views.

Now I know that people will ask "What about when your child goes out in the real world?".. My job as a parent is to teach my child that they are not apart of this world, but to also give them the knowledge of surviving this world. So they know about drugs, homosexuality, violence, bullies, temptations and on and on. But not only are we to teach them about these things but to give them the means of dealing with them. We are to help them put on the Armor of God so they can stand against evil. That doesn't mean they have to experience a bully on a playground in order to learn from it. It means to prepare them in case things do happen, so that know how to handle it.

Our kids will make mistakes. Do things that cause us to wonder what we did wrong. But God tells us, and we know better then to doubt him... That if we follow his lessons to us then he will not let us down.

Proverbs 22:6
"Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it." (notice it does not say socialize a child)..

Proverbs 4:10-13
" 10 Listen, my son, accept what I say, and the years of your life will be many.
11 I guide you in the way of wisdom and lead you along straight paths.
12 When you walk, your steps will not be hampered; when you run, you will not stumble.
13 Hold on to instruction, do not let it go; guard it well, for it is your life."


I searched but could not seem to find the word "socialization" anywhere in my Bible. I found lots about parents training their children, and about fellowship with other christians and about not being apart of those that may cause us to sin. In fact we are told to remove from us those things that may lead us to sin. Not to put ourselves or our children in situations where we will fail.

So the next time a Christian asks me about my homeschooled childrens "socialization" I well ask them to show me where in the bible that socialization is taught and if to them it means the same as fellowship. As for non-christians who ask, I guess I should ask them what things they see in me and my children that are so neggative that they feel we need to be more like everyone else and hope that I have demostrated a Christian behavior that might lead them close to an understanding and a relationship with Jesus.

379 posted on 04/03/2003 6:41:38 AM PST by TxBec (Tag! You're it!)
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To: TxBec; homeschool mama
I remember having to memorize this when I was a kid and it has always stayed with me.

Romans 12:1-2

I beseech you therefore, brethern, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you many prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

380 posted on 04/03/2003 6:49:16 AM PST by SpookBrat
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