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To: *Homeschool_list; 2Jedismom; homeschool mama; BallandPowder; ffrancone; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; ...
Came across this "socialization rant".. thought you might like to see it..
For 4 years I have homeschooled and I have very well rounded children that can carry on a conversation in a polite and intelligent manner. Yet I am still questioned about socialization, even by other Christians. Actually alot of Christians seem to use the social aspects as a reason to keep their kids in public school.

So I need to do my rant!

From the dictionary..

so·cial·ize
v. so·cial·ized, so·cial·iz·ing, so·cial·iz·es
v. tr.
1)To place under government or group ownership or control.
2)To make fit for companionship with others; make sociable.
3)To convert or adapt to the needs of society.

As a Christian I do not feel any of these definitions apply to me. I am not of this world. I do not belong to the Gov. I belong to God as do my children. Companionship with Jesus is way more important then with others (society) and I do not feel my children need to convert or adapt to this world, on the contrary they are as christians to be set apart from this world.

Now here is a new word to be used in place of "socialization"...

fel·low·ship n.
1)
A)The condition of sharing similar interests, ideals, or experiences, as by reason of profession, religion, or nationality.
B)The companionship of individuals in a congenial atmosphere and on equal terms.
2)A close association of friends or equals sharing similar interests.
3)Friendship; comradeship.

How come no one ever asks me "What about your childrens fellowship?"

2Corinthians 6:14 "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?"

Kids do not only go to school and "socialize" with other kids. They also "socialize" with teachers whom do not concern themselves with the moral and biblical view but thier own political and idealogical views.

Now I know that people will ask "What about when your child goes out in the real world?".. My job as a parent is to teach my child that they are not apart of this world, but to also give them the knowledge of surviving this world. So they know about drugs, homosexuality, violence, bullies, temptations and on and on. But not only are we to teach them about these things but to give them the means of dealing with them. We are to help them put on the Armor of God so they can stand against evil. That doesn't mean they have to experience a bully on a playground in order to learn from it. It means to prepare them in case things do happen, so that know how to handle it.

Our kids will make mistakes. Do things that cause us to wonder what we did wrong. But God tells us, and we know better then to doubt him... That if we follow his lessons to us then he will not let us down.

Proverbs 22:6
"Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it." (notice it does not say socialize a child)..

Proverbs 4:10-13
" 10 Listen, my son, accept what I say, and the years of your life will be many.
11 I guide you in the way of wisdom and lead you along straight paths.
12 When you walk, your steps will not be hampered; when you run, you will not stumble.
13 Hold on to instruction, do not let it go; guard it well, for it is your life."


I searched but could not seem to find the word "socialization" anywhere in my Bible. I found lots about parents training their children, and about fellowship with other christians and about not being apart of those that may cause us to sin. In fact we are told to remove from us those things that may lead us to sin. Not to put ourselves or our children in situations where we will fail.

So the next time a Christian asks me about my homeschooled childrens "socialization" I well ask them to show me where in the bible that socialization is taught and if to them it means the same as fellowship. As for non-christians who ask, I guess I should ask them what things they see in me and my children that are so neggative that they feel we need to be more like everyone else and hope that I have demostrated a Christian behavior that might lead them close to an understanding and a relationship with Jesus.

379 posted on 04/03/2003 6:41:38 AM PST by TxBec (Tag! You're it!)
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To: TxBec; homeschool mama
I remember having to memorize this when I was a kid and it has always stayed with me.

Romans 12:1-2

I beseech you therefore, brethern, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you many prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

380 posted on 04/03/2003 6:49:16 AM PST by SpookBrat
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To: TxBec
This is what I say to people who ask me about socialization:

"I'm not raising socialists."
381 posted on 04/03/2003 7:30:41 AM PST by lainie
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To: TxBec
Thanks for pinging me to this post...It's a nice rant.

Funny thing, I could pretty much give a flip about what others think anymore..I'm not here to answer to them. I used to fervently engage people when they asked the "socialization" question. Now I just give them a one sentence answer.......unless they appear genuinely interested...Because we KNOW, THAT WE KNOW.. that we are doing the right thing. Our labour is evident in the fruit that we see.......

Best FRegards,

388 posted on 04/03/2003 9:01:39 AM PST by Osage Orange (''African-Americans watch the same news at night that ordinary Americans do ''- Bill Clinton)
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To: TxBec
Do you know what dictionary the "socialization" definition came from?
389 posted on 04/03/2003 9:03:25 AM PST by 2Jedismom ('The commitment of our fathers is now the calling of our time')
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To: TxBec
Yet I am still questioned about socialization, even by other Christians.

I smack myself in the forehead and say, "SOCIALIZATION? Why didn't I think of that?"

One of the funniest answers I ever heard was, "I used to worry about socialization, but now I take my kid into the bathroom every day and beat him up and try to sell him drugs."

Shalom.

390 posted on 04/03/2003 9:05:20 AM PST by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: TxBec
Companionship with Jesus is way more important than with others (society) and I do not feel my children need to convert or adapt to this world

I understand her point about conforming to the world, and it's a good one. However, you have to be careful in how you phrase it. The highlighted portion is problematic because our relationship with Jesus is "horizontal" as well as "vertical." "Whatever you do to the least of my brothers you do unto me." We can't take a "to hell with the heretics" attitude.

392 posted on 04/03/2003 10:36:35 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: TxBec
Excellent post!
393 posted on 04/03/2003 1:53:55 PM PST by goodieD
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To: TxBec
Companionship with Jesus is way more important then with others (society) and I do not feel my children need to convert or adapt to this world, on the contrary they are as christians to be set apart from this world.

Absolutely. The most important thing.
How many times have I tried to do it on my own, thought I was failing or winning, and later realized God was leading me in His direction all along. It is no different for our children.
On your knees singing Holy, Holy and everything else falls into place. To say otherwise is to attempt to do it without God, perhaps without His guidance.

395 posted on 04/03/2003 2:53:26 PM PST by MarMema
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To: TxBec
Awesome. Thanks for the ping!
396 posted on 04/03/2003 6:36:24 PM PST by Pablo64 ("But still I fear and still dare not laugh at the the Madman.")
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To: TxBec
Sounds like something I would have written. I answer just the way you have written it. I don't even bother to explain anymore because people will not change their minds.Yes, I've had Christians ask me the same thing. The way I see it, they have not read their Bible as it does say that we are to train up a child.
397 posted on 04/04/2003 12:54:49 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Close the Borders Now!)
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