THE PROOF - Aborted babies are used in vaccine creation

Dr. Stanley Plotkin is considered the godfather of vaccines. He reluctantly admitted the horrific facts about abortion and vaccine manufacturing — facts the pharmaceutical industry has spent decades hiding.

He claimed only two fetuses were involved in his work. Then the lawyer handed him a study he authored — using 76 aborted babies. Plotkin was forced to admit the truth: They weren’t miscarriages. All were over three months’ gestation. All were normally developed. They were aborted for social and psychiatric reasons — so their organs could be harvested. Lungs. Kidneys. Hearts. Tongues. Pituitary glands. Chopped into pieces and cultured for vaccine production.

When the lawyer noted that his client objected to vaccines developed from aborted babies, Plotkin responded by claiming the Catholic Church approves the vaccines — and that only the researchers involved will go to hell for it. Then he said: “I am glad to do that.” He is glad to go to hell.

Bishop Athanasius Schneider has a different view: “We have to resist and not collaborate in any way with these vaccines.” Receiving abortion-tainted vaccines, he warns, marks the body with a sign connected to the greatest evil.

The proof is undeniable. The question is whether Catholics will continue to accept what the culture tells them — or recognize the horror they are being asked to receive. The godfather of vaccines is glad to go to hell. The question is whether the faithful will follow him there.

You seem to be biased against men in your comments. where I'm arguing that it's both men and women equally responsible for abortion - and for the rapid destruction of the family and our moral structure.

Rape is a very small - and horrific - part of the equation and sex trafficking/prostitution is another part. But the majority - the vast majority - of abortions are from male and female promiscuity/convenience.

By the way, the sex trade is primarily used by the unappealing males who can't get sex from females - the fat, short, older, and balding incels who have to pay someone.

Reasonably good-looking men have absolutely no trouble finding accommodating women - and they are a very large part of the unfulfilled parenting and murder of unborn children taking place now - and the steady spread of STDs.

Unless and until our nation returns to a moral and faithful culture, we will continue this steady dive into immorality.

“”They weren’t miscarriages. All were over three months’ gestation. All were normally developed. They were aborted for social and psychiatric reasons — so their organs could be harvested. Lungs. Kidneys. Hearts. Tongues. Pituitary glands. Chopped into pieces and cultured for vaccine production.””

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And there you have it, finally. Someone admitting the truth. It’s not “reproductive healthcare”. It’s infanticide for profit. Organ harvesting and preying on the most innocent and vulnerable.

It’s nice that Plotkin is ok with going to Hell. He must think that he’ll have a nice, cushy cell there with rewards and perks from Satan. He has NO IDEA what he is in for ... for all eternity.

You seem to be biased against men in your comments.

That's because most of the problems including bias in the court system can be traced back to men, and their inability to think beyond their next roll in the hay. Exactly how long are we supposed to watch men cave to the most outrageous ideals, such as schools allowing girls to assault boys for any or no reason, before it's time to call men out.

Can you name one father who has defended his sons against this bias?

What I'm about to cover below only makes it worse.

where I'm arguing that it's both men and women equally responsible for abortion - and for the rapid destruction of the family and our moral structure.

I agree, but all that does is concede that men could put an end to it on their own, starting right now.

For rape, the best I could find was that about 1% to maybe 3.5% of abortions are from rapes. That's 1%-3.5% of an estimated 63-64 million abortions in the US since Roe v. Wade.

Abortions Due to Rape by State 2026

I couldn't find the percentage of abortions that are a result of human trafficking, but here are some links to show that it's a common problem.

Sex Trafficking Victims Doubly Harmed by Forced Abortions

Senate Bill 2275 Forced Abortion in Human Trafficking

Regardless of the percentage in either case, you can't be happy with this.

By the way, the sex trade is primarily used by the unappealing males who can't get sex from females - the fat, short, older, and balding incels who have to pay someone. Reasonably good-looking men have absolutely no trouble finding accommodating women

I disagree. There are a lot of high profile, attractive men, who have fallen into patronizing prostitution.

Top 10 Celebrities Who Were Allegedly Caught With Prostitutes

They Paid For Sex? 25 Shocking Celebrity Prostitution Scandals

and they are a very large part of the unfulfilled parenting and murder of unborn children taking place now - and the steady spread of STDs.

Agreed.

Unless and until our nation returns to a moral and faithful culture, we will continue this steady dive into immorality.

Again I agree, but why can't men be the ones who take the first step in that direction? Saying that "women do it too" only admits guilt. If you have a Christian world view, then you can agree that won't be enough on Judgement Day.

You keep falling back to that old argument that both sides are at fault, but that doesn't solve anything. All that does is gives men the excuse that "women do it too".

I see that a lot around this forum. When the Catholic scandals broke out, some pointed out that it happens in other churches too. As if that excuses the Catholic Church.

BTW, it was men who did that, and the men in the know failed to act to stop it. "Women do it too" doesn't excuse that.

You want to point out that both sides are at fault. I want to solve the problems caused by pornography, human trafficking, prostitution, and abortion, and men are in a position to do that. How? By not participating in it.

And BTW, no woman chooses to be trafficked.

It’s not an “old argument”, it’s the only way we’re ever going to stop the crap and rebuild society.

By saying "they do it too"? That's not action. That's deflection.

Women - like you - are all ready for full equality

Women stood up for their equal rights, and stood their ground against largely male opposition. While they were fighting for their rights, men were spending their time and money on spectator sports, strip bars, porn, and prostitution. That was billions every year that could have gone into the fight for their rights.

Whose fault is it that women gained their equal rights and men haven't?

except for the part where you actually do anything about it..

Why is it their problem that men can't even defend their own sons against a biased school system that allows girls to hit or kick them for any or no reason?

The ERA would have made all laws based on sex unconstitutional. Phyllis Schalfly made that clear in her opposition to the ERA, which was based on the acronym STOP, "Stop Taking Our Privileges". She put up an anti-feminist front, and men fell for it. The ERA didn't pass, and women got their rights anyway while men got nothing. Whose choice was that?

What does all of this have to do with abortion? Do you really need to ask? Besides what I have already documented, men supported abortion rights because they saw it as an opportunity to have sex without paying child support. When that didn't work out the way they wanted, they came up with their own counter claim and called it "forced fatherhood".

Yes, women do it too, and they will continue for as long as men are a willing part.

You're starting to babble:

More like you're continuing to deflect.

The "gains" in women's equality have been largely negative.

Yeah, like astronauts, computer techs, athletics, etc. Who would want to see something like that happen to their daughter? </SARCASM>

There are now women producers of pornography, Women pimps for prostitutes, women drug dealers...

That has always been the case, but what has changed for the positive is that women have more opportunities to do something else. That's hardly a negative.

...and of course, women consumers for all of these too.

Numbers?

I'll give you a head start. Women consume about 30% of porn.

Apart from that, how much of the billions spent on prostitution do you really think is spent by women?

Men - weak men - are prisoners of these vices

There are a lot of weak men out there, judging by the billions spent on strip bars and prostitution every year.

But what would we expect, when we raise our boys to think that their manhood revolves around how many women they stick it into, and flood them with sexual imagery? Something we protect our daughters from, and with good reason.

Is it any wonder so many boys grow up to be the sex fiends who see women's bodies as a commodity that they have an entitlement to, and who are making abusive pimps and human traffickers rich?

And don't get me started on date rape drugs.

You'll probably come back with "but it isn't all men" and you're right, but that only proves my point that this behavior is not a natural part of being a man, but is a societal norm that is being taught, or should I say groomed, into our boys.

but now instead of informing men and women of the black pit they are occupying, women are getting in on the profits.

Again, I'll ask for numbers.

And at what point are these women forcing men to pay for and consume their "products"? It's still a choice, no matter how you try to deflect the blame.

What have you done assist men and women to get back to a productive life, with a family, a decent job, a clean future?

For one, I buy American when possible so that American women and men can find jobs.

I also speak out against this screwing around where I can, including here. Why is that wrong?

As far as I can tell, all you give voice to is the large chip on your shoulder against men.

I have given you facts which I have substantiated. All you can say in return is "women do it too", as if that will help men get out out this trap.

While you continue to diatribe, you expose your bias further. I am what you fear the most: an honest, honorable and faithful married man. I have raised 6 kids and all of them have good degrees, good careers and only two left to get married. Zero pornography, zero prostitution, zero adultery, and good church-going Catholics. I have never struck any of my children or my wife, ever.

I represent every other male I have known and associated with but you focus on the flawed, the broken, the criminal.

While we're talking about the "wonders" of feminism and our changed world, how about the screaming harpies of the Left, supporting abortion even to the point that Lindsay Clancy is their hero for murdering her children? How about the clearly inadequate female cops, firefighters, infantrymen, and other professions "opened up" to female presence? The clear physical and mental differences are conveniently ignored in the interests of "equality".

I'm sorry that you have your issues but the reality is that both sexes are responsible for the mess we find ourselves in now.

While you continue to diatribe, you expose your bias further.

How horrible that I should want men to stop making human traffickers rich. What kind of monster am I?

I am what you fear the most: an honest, honorable and faithful married man. I have raised 6 kids and all of them have good degrees, good careers and only two left to get married. Zero pornography, zero prostitution, zero adultery, and good church-going Catholics. I have never struck any of my children or my wife, ever.

I'm sure you're nice to your mother too, but does that mean we shouldn't care about the men who are wrecking their own lives in addition to others because your family doesn't have these problems?

I represent every other male I have known and associated with...

Someone is making those human traffickers billionaires rich. How do you know some of your friends aren't secretly among them? Do you think they would tell you about it if they were? I have been saddened to find some of my old friends listed in the sexual offender registry. Am I wrong for not wanting to see other boys grow up to be like that?

...but you focus on the flawed, the broken, the criminal.

From my last post to you:

"You'll probably come back with "but it isn't all men" and you're right, but that only proves my point that this behavior is not a natural part of being a man, but is a societal norm that is being taught, or should I say groomed, into our boys."

So yes, I am focusing on them, because they're the ones who are wrecking their own lives and the lives of others with their own choices. If you don't care, then just go back to your house with the white picket fences and let me try to reach them. No one is forcing this on you.

We allowed them as girls to assault boys with impunity. Is it any wonder that so many of these girls grew up to be women with this kind of entitlement attitude?

Besides, over half of men support abortion rights, and we all know why.

And what does any of that have to do with opening up opportunities for women?

How about the clearly inadequate female cops, firefighters, infantrymen, and other professions "opened up" to female presence? The clear physical and mental differences are conveniently ignored in the interests of "equality".

How about the men who caved and allowed that to happen, rather than demand that women are held to the same standards? For decades, men including some at this forum have been complaining about how inadequate female troops are putting male troops in danger, but what have men done about it? Nothing. Just cave.

And while we're talking about policemen and the military, who commits most of the crimes and starts most of the wars?

On the former you could make the point that women are allowed to get away with crimes that men would be punished for and that's true, but who are the ones letting them off easy? Usually, it's men.

I'm sorry that you have your issues but the reality is that both sexes are responsible for the mess we find ourselves in now.

Do you even bother to read my posts before replying to them? I have agreed with you on that on numerous occasions. My only point is that men are in a position to put a stop to it. You're the one who has a problem with that.

Every once in a while, I realize that I'm dealing with someone who is incapable of reason. You are one of those people.

For example:

"How about the men who caved and allowed that to happen, rather than demand that women are held to the same standards? For decades, men including some at this forum have been complaining about how inadequate female troops are putting male troops in danger, but what have men done about it? Nothing. Just cave."

Apparently, you have no experience at all with our military services. Enlisted and Company Grade and Field Grade Officer have no say at all in matters in the direction of the services and even, it turns out, General Officers too. in 2015, the Marine Corps conducted an exhaustive set of field test comparing all male units with mixed male-female units in combat conditions at Camp LeJeune North Carolina and 29 Palms California.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/10/439190586/marine-corps-study-finds-all-male-combat-units-faster-than-mixed-units

The tests were rigorously conducted for offensive and defensive combat in the desert and the results were unambiguous: all-male units were superior. The results of that test were forwarded to the Secretary of the Navy and then the SecDef and President Obama and - this is a big mystery - the results of the study were ignored and females were pushed into all combat roles.

I have served in combat. It's no place for women, weak men, or anything else but committed, well-trained, physically fit men. Combat is killing on an industrial scale and whole purpose of the army or Marine Corps infantry is to kill the enemy or be killed in that process. Any study of the history of combat will show the filth, the brutality. the horror of it hasn't changed and never will change. Women are worse than a weaker link, their presence handicaps the unit cohesion that is absolutely needed for success in combat. We're putting 18-19-20 year olds at peak hormones together in close proximity a long ways from home. Individual loyalties - and conflict - will naturally emerge all of which cracks the unity of purpose of that unit.

For decades the Defense Advisory Committee for Women in the Service (DACOWITS) made themselves an annoying presence, dropping in to our ground units while we were training and insisting that "women can do that job". It's not a job, it's a mission, a very specific and dangerous mission that depends on the fitness and unity of its members.

We are at the whims of our political "leaders" and common sense doesn't penetrate.

Enlisted and Company Grade and Field Grade Officer have no say at all in matters in the direction of the services and even, it turns out, General Officers too.

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We are at the whims of our political "leaders" and common sense doesn't penetrate.

I get that, the decision was made elsewhere. THEY were the ones who caved.

I suggest you look at how the feminists managed to get the government to cave as it did. They and their supporters campaigned for the changes.

Men had the truth on their side. On this issue, YOU have the truth on your side. The problem is, there was no counter activism. You can blame it on having to hold down jobs, or agree with me that men in general had other priorities, but whatever the reason, the fact remains that the feminists fought for their POV and men didn't. The government caved, and here we are.

What are men going to do about it?

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