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To: Chainmail
You're starting to babble:

More like you're continuing to deflect.

The "gains" in women's equality have been largely negative.

Yeah, like astronauts, computer techs, athletics, etc. Who would want to see something like that happen to their daughter? </SARCASM>

There are now women producers of pornography, Women pimps for prostitutes, women drug dealers...

That has always been the case, but what has changed for the positive is that women have more opportunities to do something else. That's hardly a negative.

...and of course, women consumers for all of these too.

Numbers?

I'll give you a head start. Women consume about 30% of porn.

Apart from that, how much of the billions spent on prostitution do you really think is spent by women?

Men - weak men - are prisoners of these vices

There are a lot of weak men out there, judging by the billions spent on strip bars and prostitution every year.

But what would we expect, when we raise our boys to think that their manhood revolves around how many women they stick it into, and flood them with sexual imagery? Something we protect our daughters from, and with good reason.

Is it any wonder so many boys grow up to be the sex fiends who see women's bodies as a commodity that they have an entitlement to, and who are making abusive pimps and human traffickers rich?

And don't get me started on date rape drugs.

You'll probably come back with "but it isn't all men" and you're right, but that only proves my point that this behavior is not a natural part of being a man, but is a societal norm that is being taught, or should I say groomed, into our boys.

but now instead of informing men and women of the black pit they are occupying, women are getting in on the profits.

Again, I'll ask for numbers.

And at what point are these women forcing men to pay for and consume their "products"? It's still a choice, no matter how you try to deflect the blame.

What have you done assist men and women to get back to a productive life, with a family, a decent job, a clean future?

For one, I buy American when possible so that American women and men can find jobs.

I also speak out against this screwing around where I can, including here. Why is that wrong?

As far as I can tell, all you give voice to is the large chip on your shoulder against men.

I have given you facts which I have substantiated. All you can say in return is "women do it too", as if that will help men get out out this trap.

50 posted on 09/02/2026 4:37:55 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for the US and President Trump)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
While you continue to diatribe, you expose your bias further. I am what you fear the most: an honest, honorable and faithful married man. I have raised 6 kids and all of them have good degrees, good careers and only two left to get married. Zero pornography, zero prostitution, zero adultery, and good church-going Catholics. I have never struck any of my children or my wife, ever.

I represent every other male I have known and associated with but you focus on the flawed, the broken, the criminal.

While we're talking about the "wonders" of feminism and our changed world, how about the screaming harpies of the Left, supporting abortion even to the point that Lindsay Clancy is their hero for murdering her children? How about the clearly inadequate female cops, firefighters, infantrymen, and other professions "opened up" to female presence? The clear physical and mental differences are conveniently ignored in the interests of "equality".

I'm sorry that you have your issues but the reality is that both sexes are responsible for the mess we find ourselves in now.

51 posted on 09/03/2026 3:51:12 AM PDT by Chainmail (You can vote your way into Socialism - but you will have to shoot your way out.)
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