Aubrey M. Temples: SEEING HITLER ESCAPE GERMANY, APRIL 30, 1945

YouTube ^ | Apr 11, 2018 | Aubrey M. Temples

[Dr. Franklin]

On April 30, 1945, I left the barracks early to have breakfast with the Mosers. I was fortunate enough to be the only prisoner there that got to eat with the family, but on the way, there was three black cars came back with guards on 'em, and of course my heart was beating pretty fast. I was concerned that they was sitting there with guns and I was unprotected, but they paid no attention to me. First car goes by and just a driver and the guards on top. Second car just about even with me, and the one in front stopped and it stopped, and there sit Adolf Hitler.

He wasn't more than five or six feet from me. He was in the car. ... and there were three small planes had landed in a pasture some 200 yards away and and the three cars go down near them. I see three people go over, and get in the planes they had new ladders to help him get up... the planes took off one after another and I didn't see them any more.

...at the Mosers there was a lot of excitement, and Miss Moser told me the Fuhrer spent the night with Mr. Pullen, and Mr. Pullen was a wealthy man in town and had known Adolf Hitler before that in their earlier life sometime. So it was a quite a day for the people in New Store, and Miss Moser was protective of me, and she didn't want me outside. She was afraid that I might get shot or something. So, I asked for a piece of paper, and and I wrote a note to the military authorities that Hitler's spent a night with Mr. Pullen, and they'd left in small planes.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aubreymtemples; dumbingdownfr; hitler; russiantrollfarm; sovietpropaganda; stupidity

[Reily]

Agree!

[Vermont Lt]

While the Russians were pressing from the east, the western suburbs of Berlin were pretty open. Most of the leadership was able to escape Berlin and make their way towards the allied lines.

If you had access to air fields, it would have been quite possible to sneak out. No one was paying much attention to small civilian aircraft. At least not over Allied troops.

At this point, I couldn’t care less about whether he lived or not.

I am continually surprised at how people are infatuated with everything Nazi these days.

[gundog]

They had a detailed plan, and they followed it, complete with fake forensic evidence like X-Rays and dental records. There were enough dead corpses around to find one about Hitler’s build and say it was him. All the Nazi loyalists said Hitler killed himself, and they all told the exact same story, which they rehearsed to hide their fuhrer.

At that point, there’s no reason not to put a bullet in AH’s double.

[Dr. Franklin]

At that point, there’s no reason not to put a bullet in AH’s double.

Or he gladly offed himself to help his fuhrer. If the Russians caught Hitler's double, it wouldn't have been pleasant for him. Death may have been preferable for him.

[Dr. Franklin]

"The analysis is based on a swatch of fabric stained with blood that a U.S. soldier cut from the couch upon which Hitler shot himself. The researchers were able to confirm without a doubt that the blood came from Hitler by comparing the DNA found in it to DNA previously confirmed to have come from one of his relatives."

Serously, that couch was in the bunker in Russian occupied Berlin. How did a U.S. soldier get there and into the bunker? According to WP, Soviet forensicist Piotr Semenovsky investigated the blood stained couch. I call BS on an American soldier getting it from the Soviets.

[mass55th]

"Serously, that couch was in the bunker in Russian occupied Berlin. How did a U.S. soldier get there and into the bunker?"

If you'd read one of my other comments, the U.S. military was granted access to the bunker by the Russians. If you check British historian Mark Felton's YouTube Channel, he has videos and photos of the U.S. military entering the bunker, along with some of the video and photos they took inside.

[mass55th]

Also Soviet forensicist Piotr Semenovsky’s work was done in 1946, when forensic and genetic testing didn’t exist.

[Dr. Franklin]

If you'd read one of my other comments, the U.S. military was granted access to the bunker by the Russians. If you check British historian Mark Felton's YouTube Channel, he has videos and photos of the U.S. military entering the bunker, along with some of the video and photos they took inside

None of which proves the chain of custody for the bloody swatch of sofa cloth.

[Dr. Franklin]

Also Soviet forensicist Piotr Semenovsky’s work was done in 1946, when forensic and genetic testing didn’t exist.

At best, they could have only tested for the blood type of the blood, but who knew what Hitler's blood type was, and would that person be honest about it if interrogated.

[Dr. Franklin]

At best, they could have only tested for the blood type of the blood, but who knew what Hitler’s blood type was, and would that person be honest about it if interrogated?

[Dr. Franklin]

From Innsbruck, he went to Barcelona by the captured MD-3DC-3, and then on to the Canary Islands after the MD-3DC-3 was repainted in Barcelona.

[mass55th]

Yes, about the only thing they could test for back then was blood type. They weren’t even able to determine sex of a person by a blood sample at the time.

[mass55th]

"None of which proves the chain of custody for the bloody swatch of sofa cloth."

The chain of evidence for the bloody swatch:

"1. Authenticity: The swatch was taken from the sofa where Hitler committed suicide in 1945 and was removed by U.S. Army Colonel Roswell P. Rosengren. The swatch was authenticated as human blood transferred from a gunshot wound.

The piece of material was in the soldier's possession until his death. Article from the Gettysburg Museum of History from 2021:

A Section Of The Couch That Adolf Hitler Killed Himself On Stained With Hitler’s Blood w/Photos

2. Forensic Analysis: Four rounds of DNA sequencing were conducted to compare the bloodstain's Y-chromosome with those from verified living relatives. The results confirmed the swatch's authenticity and matched the Y-chromosome to a male relative.

3. Historical Context: The swatch was part of a collection of wartime relics at the Gettysburg Museum of History. It was not archived or treated as a scientific sample until the museum began looking for original material linked to the bunker.

4. Scientific Interpretation: Geneticist Dr. Turi King led the interpretation of the DNA results, which identified genetic variants consistent with Kallmann syndrome and placed the sample in the top 1% of risk for traits linked to autism spectrum conditions, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and ADHD.

This chain of evidence provides a strong foundation for the historical findings presented in the documentary 'Hitler's DNA: Blueprint of a Dictator,' which has been widely discussed and analyzed."

The DNA from the blood on the swatch was determined to be Hitler's based on its comparison to the DNA of a known Hitler relative, which matched 100%. It couldn't possibly have been anyone else's blood but Hitler's on that couch specimen.

[Dr. Franklin]

From you CNN story:
However, without information on the quality of the genome, the raw data or how the analyses were done, it is not possible to assess the assertions made in the documentary, according to Pontus Skoglund, senior group leader of the Ancient Genomics Laboratory at the Francis Crick Institute in London.

Then this study didn't find that Hitler had any Jewish DNA while it is known that he had one Jewish grandparent. Even so, what if Hitler's body double was his cousin? Then the DNA would be similar to other family members. Too many witnesses claim to have seen Hitler after the event to accept this as credible.

[GingisK]

Too many witnesses claim to have seen Hitler after the event to accept this as credible.

I find it odd that people will accept this testimony from a fairly small number of people, but not the testimony of thousands of credible witnesses of UFO matters. It seems to based upon what they want to believe rather than the preponderance of the evidence.

Same thing with the Apollo landings.

[Ditto]

I think they're trying to say Dulles was the head of the OSS station in Switzerland.

Yes, that is what he was. NOT the head of the OSS… not even close. The Bern office handled the caputliation of German forces in Italy. They had nothing to do with Berlin, Hitler, or the unconditional surrender of theNAZIs.

Go to https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/German_instrument_of_surrender2.jpg to see the document.

[Dr. Franklin]

I find it odd that people will accept this testimony from a fairly small number of people, but not the testimony of thousands of credible witnesses of UFO matters. It seems to based upon what they want to believe rather than the preponderance of the evidence.

The universe is a very large place for earth to be the only place with intelligent life. People believe what they want to believe until something smacks them in the face which can't be ignored. I know the government lies to us all the time. The government is to questioned on such things, but some people prefer to believe the government, the 2020 election was the most secure ever, Oswald alone killed JFK, Hitler died in the bunker, etc., because that's what they want to believe.

[mass55th]

"Then this study didn't find that Hitler had any Jewish DNA while it is known that he had one Jewish grandparent."

It wasn't known for certain at the time that Hitler had a Jewish grandparent. It was only speculation and rumor. There were also rumors at the time about Himmler having Jewish ancestry. The fact is that no Jewish DNA showed up in his DNA sequencing, only Austrian German ancestry. If a grandfather of his had indeed been Jewish, because of the close proximity in the family line, it would have showed up in his DNA.

[mass55th]

"Too many witnesses claim to have seen Hitler after the event to accept this as credible."

Sure, because eyewitnesses are always accurate. That's why if you ask 10 people who saw the same incident to describe the perp, you'll likely come up with 10 different answers.

[Dr. Franklin]

Or the testing was garbage.