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The World’s Deadliest Addiction Is Popping Up on Brain Scans. And It’s Not Even a Drug
Slate ^ | July 14, 2025 | James Kimmel Jr.

Posted on 10/14/2025 2:14:14 PM PDT by Pontiac

Revenge is an act designed to inflict harm on someone because they’ve inflicted harm on us. We could yearn for anything after we’ve been mistreated, like a scoop of ice cream, a nap, or a relaxing massage. But what most of us really want is the other person’s pain—and for them to know that their pain is because of the pain they’ve caused us.

The desire for revenge is the root motivation for almost all forms of human violence. From childhood bullying to intimate partner violence, urban violence, police brutality, mass shootings, violent extremism, genocide, and even war, perpetrators of violence almost always believe they’re victims seeking justice.

Recent neuroscience discoveries reveal a chilling picture: Your brain on revenge looks like your brain on drugs. Brain imaging studies show that grievances—real or imagined perceptions of injustice, disrespect, betrayal, shame, or victimization—activate the “pain network,” specifically the anterior insula. The brain doesn’t like pain and tries to rebalance itself with pleasure. Pleasure can come from many things, but humans have evolved to feel intense pleasure from hurting the people who hurt us, or their proxies.

In more modern times, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao achieved a combined death toll of some 102 million people by waging a world war that included murdering—or ordering or encouraging the murder, torture, or starvation of—approximately 38.5 million people who they believed wronged them for things like betraying their nation (Jews in Germany), refusing to give up their land and possessions (peasants and landlords in communist Russia and China), and disrespecting or opposing them. By my estimate, of the top 20 human atrocities of all time, identified by researcher Matthew White in his book Atrocities: The 100 Deadliest Episodes in Human History, 19 were the result of compulsive revenge-seeking. They left an estimated 336 million people dead.

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KEYWORDS: addiction; astroturf; brain; demagogicparty; demagogue; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; jameskimmeljr; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; revenge; slate
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To: Pontiac

If revenge is so bad why do animals exact revenge when wronged?

I was playfully teasing a friend’s cat so he went over and peed in my motorcycle leathers.

I never teased him again.


21 posted on 10/14/2025 3:02:13 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Pontiac

Justice is the sublimation of vengeance. When the State is the criminal, where does the righteous man go for justice?


22 posted on 10/14/2025 3:04:03 PM PDT by Dave Wright
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To: Dave Wright

👍


23 posted on 10/14/2025 3:06:45 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Pontiac
In general, I think the author is correct: the Germans were so brutal in WWII because of their own perception of humiliation. Similarly, Stalin (and Putin) can play on part of Russia's constantly humiliated majority by giving them an opportunity for revenge, an opportunity to humiliate others.

That's why the spread of "victimization" culture all over is so dangerous. You see it with blacks in the US and you even see it with some conservatives who fall into a narrative of victimization. It's one reason the Germans and the Russians have this odd mutual recognition: both are prone to the same sado-masochistic politics, as one poli-sci professor I read put it.

It's interesting that I don't see it often in the ancient world, with the possible exception of Mithradates encouraging the Ionian Greeks to massacre the Roman expatriate population.

24 posted on 10/14/2025 3:09:27 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: PIF

Muslim revenge has been a feature of the system from the beginning. That and the forceful conversion of other social and cultural systems.

Christianity and western enlightenment has been the only system of acceptance of others.


25 posted on 10/14/2025 3:27:46 PM PDT by JeanLM (shing of the wrists would've been the obvious)
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To: dfwgator

“Oh, blow it out your *** Howard.”


26 posted on 10/14/2025 3:58:44 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: Pontiac
Since the author started his list with Hitler, I decided to look up the numbers each of the following bad people killed; Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot. Here's what came back from my internet search:

Mao - 40 to 80 million.

Stalin - 20 to 60 million.

Hitler - 12.2 million (6 million Jews, 6.2 non-Jews)

Pol Pot - 1.5 to 3 million.

So just based on big names, Communists lead Fascists by a lot. 61.5 to 123 million, compared to 12.2 million. Or a ratio of either 5/1 or 10/1.

Not sure if other searches at other times would produce different results.

27 posted on 10/14/2025 4:28:22 PM PDT by Bernard ("Nothing is as expensive as that which the government provides for free." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pontiac

“The brain doesn’t like pain and tries to rebalance itself with pleasure.”

I’m waiting...how long does the brain take?


28 posted on 10/14/2025 5:21:00 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bernard

When looking at murderous dictators I think it useful to look at ratios of population to those killed.

Looking at the percentage of those killed to the total population I think Pol Pot wins.


29 posted on 10/14/2025 5:23:44 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Bonemaker
“The brain doesn’t like pain and tries to rebalance itself with pleasure.”

That is totally incorrect

The brain prefers Pleasure over everything else.

Balance has no place in the brain.

And when the brain gets used to terror or pain it will take that over pleasure.

Note the soldiers that get in to pain loops of battle fatigue.

30 posted on 10/14/2025 5:32:08 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac
"and for them to know that their pain is because of the pain they’ve caused us."


31 posted on 10/14/2025 5:35:26 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bonemaker

Yes Master, yes.


32 posted on 10/14/2025 5:40:52 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

A most excellent point.


33 posted on 10/14/2025 5:56:48 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 "/!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: Bernard
Seventy million in China alone by the Empire of Japan. Hirohito should be near the top on the murder board but somehow never gets listed.

Curious.

34 posted on 10/14/2025 6:23:59 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It's like somebody just put the Constitution up on a wall …. and shot the First Amendment -Mike Rowe)
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To: logi_cal869
It is how I judge most articles. I do not know everything. I do not even know a little about everything. But I do know a bit about a very few things. So I look to see if the author is speaking into an area, even lightly, where I know my onions.

If they are aligned with reality in those areas I take the author seriously.

If they don't it means they are either lazy or lying to me.

Either way they are generally not worth wasting my time on.

I will give them a second chance if I know of the writer and know they have generally been accurate in the past. But they had better wow me with accuracy and insight in that second chance.

Life is too short and there is too much to be read to waste your time on things where the author did not bother to do five minutes worth of research. Especially now that it is so easy to do it.

35 posted on 10/14/2025 6:35:02 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It's like somebody just put the Constitution up on a wall …. and shot the First Amendment -Mike Rowe)
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To: All

I prefer my ice cream with schaudenfraude topping


36 posted on 10/14/2025 7:06:40 PM PDT by BipolarBob (These violent delights have violent ends.)
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To: Pontiac

Drugstore paperback psychology by amateurs. The real psychological explanation is that “revenge” is a characterization of the response of the aggressive drive to a perceived threat, motivated by the objective of adaptation and survival. Elementary.


37 posted on 10/14/2025 9:14:52 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: dfwgator

Nietzsche died in an insane asylum, crazy as a june bug, so I don’t think he is really a very good source of expertise on chaos and order.


38 posted on 10/14/2025 9:17:14 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: packagingguy

probably because you ‘Colonel Sanders’d the formerly furry Kitty Cat’


39 posted on 10/14/2025 9:21:07 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10-10-10-10)
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To: Pontiac

I don’t buy it. Anything that gets your juices going is bound to show up on scans. An aggressive act of revenge is bound to get you agitated, emotional and excited, but once you’ve done it are you going to endlessly look for more opportunities to attack people you think have wronged you? Or is it more of a one-time thing? And revenge served cold? Does that even show up on the scans?


40 posted on 10/14/2025 9:48:21 PM PDT by x
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