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1 posted on 02/25/2025 11:10:32 AM PST by BenLurkin
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This concept had a revival in the late 19th century which, as we know, was an era when notions of history and nationality held by seemingly educated people were largely informed by pseudoscience and mysticism.

The advancements brought about by great leaps in technology veiled a lingering propensity towards superstitions such as reincarnation and theosophy. Bizarre theories propounded by the likes of Helena Blatavsky and Edward Bulwer-Lytton were given equal credence with actual science.

2 posted on 02/25/2025 11:10:48 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement What shtthoof fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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3 posted on 02/25/2025 11:12:22 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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Also held by Grace Communion International (formerly “Worldwide Church of God”, formerly “The Plain Truth”). Those were the folks who used to give away the Plain Truth Magazine in airports. They tithe at 30% or more, and featured self-proclaimed Scripture expert Herbert Armstrong. Also ran the TV show “The World Tomorrow”.


4 posted on 02/25/2025 11:18:02 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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5 posted on 02/25/2025 11:18:57 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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And there’s a possibility that the Prophet Jeremiah was entombed in Ireland in a place called T-Cairn? And prior to going there he went with the daughter of the king Zedekiah to Egypt where she was married and re-united the breech of Judah’s first twin son. Just a thought.


12 posted on 02/25/2025 11:25:48 AM PST by high info voter (Delivery )
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This argument is silly. Here’s why…Before God destroyed Israel (the Northern Kingdom) in the 8th Century BC, the Believers of the north came south to Judah (the southern kingdom). The size of Jerusalem doubled in a few days. So actually, the 10 tribes are represented in Israel today. They are not lost. The unbelievers of Israel were dispersed among the Assyrian Empire. They have assimilated with those cultures.


14 posted on 02/25/2025 11:37:12 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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For the same reason the Black Israelites started to falsely claim this in the late 1800s.

Or people identify with protagonists in stories and begin to imagine themselves as Luke Skywalker.

The English all read these stories and want to claim the mantle of their heroes, so they look for something to potentially make it true.


15 posted on 02/25/2025 11:39:10 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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Apparently we all came out of Africa.
They MUST mean sub-Sahara Africa since not all north Africans are black.
Egyptians ran/run the gamut of color.

We are what we are because of geography and climate.

Britons and Israelis? Hmmm.

17 posted on 02/25/2025 11:52:29 AM PST by cloudmountain
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I have read a few books on the subject, and use to listen to ole Gene Scott, am no expert certainly, but it us amusing how he hangs his entire arguments on two concepts that don’t really amount to much.

Cyrus H. Gordon wrote that the early Greeks were Israelites, of the the tribe of Dan, who left Egypt before the main exodus under Moses.

Josepheus said the Trojans were Jews.


18 posted on 02/25/2025 11:59:51 AM PST by odawg
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This is actually different from the similarly odd contention that the UK royals are descended from the Bible’s King David.


20 posted on 02/25/2025 12:08:06 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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JERUSALEM
(Alternate English national nthem, based on Wm Blake’s1808 poem.)

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England’s mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
on England’s pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
among those dark Satanic Mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight,
nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
till we have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant Land.


22 posted on 02/25/2025 12:12:43 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us es'se delendam. sic semper tyrannis. )
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they are not lost, they simply intermarried with non jews in the area and lost their unique identity in the process

Samaritans are an example of this in the new testament.


23 posted on 02/25/2025 12:13:29 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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Because of ELP?


25 posted on 02/25/2025 12:22:12 PM PST by karnage
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The Samaritans are.


27 posted on 02/25/2025 12:51:58 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (No American money or lives for Europe’s censorious, socialist, anti-democratic islamophiles!!!)
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Dr Gene Scott has been mentioned on this thread.

Some background.

I came upon Dr. Scott in 1982 when I got a C-Band satellite dish.

He was a teacher as well as preacher and he had the credentials from Stanford.

The filmmaker Werner Herzog even made a documentary on him which used be available on Tubi.

He was an intellectual who was raised as a Pentecostal.

He was an acquired taste.

He walked a fine line of not directly mocking the gifts of the spirit or the glossolalia.

As an aside he often said that when Oral Roberts laid healing hands on someone they really shouldn’t need to have a “catcher” that God would take care of them all the way down to hitting the floor.

As far as this British “identity” theory, he did teach on that.

But he often taught things in such a way as to show the question being addressed was worthy but the conclusions of those presenting the question were invalid as they were sensationalized to promote and sell the theory or the book for the self-interest of the presenter.

That was certainly the case when he taught Holy Blood, Holy Grail which laid foundation for Dan Brown’s book the DaVinci Code and the movie starring Tom Hanks.

In teaching that book he separated what was the real history regarding the Knights Templar and what was the utter fiction upon which Holy Blood, Holy Grail preposterously ended.

On Bible teaching he was on the firmest ground as he taught Paul and put Christian faith entirely on the resurrection and Paul’s invocation that if Christ not risen, our faith be in vain.

His choice of women led to an unfortunate private life.

He would often in his conversations with himself, ask his audience are you familiar with the Devil, well I married his sister.

As for his second wife he married a Filipino who ran off with her riding instructor which was before Prince Harry was fathered by Princess Di’s riding instructor.

His third wife was a one time porn star.

She took over his ministry and became a preacher who still preaches.

It was my understanding that she destroyed the thousands and thousands of hours of video tapes of his teaching which was too bad because I think they would have still have engaged generations who never had access to his teaching.

In many ways his programming foreshadowed podcasting.


28 posted on 02/25/2025 1:13:56 PM PST by Biblebelter
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The followers of Herbert W. Armstrong believe that.


30 posted on 02/25/2025 1:45:57 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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The author’s conclusion is based on a false dichotomy.

The fact that the Britons’ story doesn’t hold water DOES NOT prove that they ARE NOT the descendants of the Israelites. All it proves is that their story doesn’t hold water.

The only way to prove that the British ARE NOT descended from the Israelites is to prove they ARE descended from someone/something else, and that requires genetic/DNA proof.

This flaky bit of pseudo-journalism goes nowhere close to that.


31 posted on 02/25/2025 1:46:51 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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The Scots also claim to be descended from the Israelites. Some believe that the Stone of Scone/Stone of Destiny/Coronation Stone is the same stone pillow Jacob rested his head on when he had his ladder dream (another non-testable hypothesis).


33 posted on 02/25/2025 1:57:49 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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It will take time and effort to study the Written Word to see exactly what the Heavenly Father had penned. First read Genesis ... when Jacob gave to his sons their future ...

And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.

Genesis 49:1........ NOTE Jacob said ‘in the last days’. So the children of Jacob/Israel were still going to be around in the ‘last days’. Except they went whoring after other gods and the

Heavenly Father divorced the house of Israel .. Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Wonder when the ‘wedding’ took place for the Heavenly Father to now divorce a whoring wife ... careful now denominations of the world... playing dumb will not cut it as Christ declared in Mark 13:23 Take ye heed, I have foretold you all things... Have you never read????

The punishment for the ‘whoring’ after other gods was the remembrance of who they are ...... hello ... world... BUT Jacob’s words in Genesis 49 was NOT erased.

There is NO way all the children of Jacob/Israel would/could literally fit in that small piece of real estate now called Israel.


36 posted on 02/25/2025 2:43:27 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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