Posted on 01/22/2025 5:43:06 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
A police department in Florida is moving to fire an officer after she accidentally shot a man with his own gun during a routine traffic stop last month.
Officer Mindy Cardwell was called to assist with a traffic stop on Dec. 13 along with another cop after Jason Arrington, 39, had been pulled over by an officer for running a red light, the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office wrote on Facebook.
Arrington was fully cooperating with all three officers, the body camera footage showed. He had informed the cop who originally pulled him over that he did have a gun holstered in his waistband.
After he had exited his car, Cardwell went to remove his firearm, but while she was trying to take the gun, it discharged and Arrington was shot in his upper thigh.
It is unclear if the gun had its safety on or off before Cardwell tried to grab it.
The bullet had gone through his upper thigh and exited at his inner leg, causing an alarming arterial bleed that officers were able to stupor with a tourniquet.
Arrington was transported to a nearby hospital following the accident and is expected to make a full recovery, but filed a lawsuit against the JSO. He is specifically citing his lasting injuries which he says have impeded his ability to work as a crane operator.
An investigation by Internal Affairs found that Cardwell had been incompetent and moved to terminate her.
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Stupid bitch!
He’s lucky the first shot didn’t initiate a magazine dump from all cops present.
That’s a privilege, not a rule.
She put a finger or two inside the trigger guard and I’m shocked it was even possible for this tragedy to take place
This Mindy was pretty hot.
I’m just glad they managed to stupor his arterial bleed with a tourniquet.
Maybe she was a DEI hire and didn't know the purpose of the trigger.
It doesn't imply the only way to be safe is a to have a safety on the handgun. It's not the "only" way.
But it does expose the scenario where the safest gun handler in the world can have some inept cop shoot them in the leg because that inept cop doesn't "keep their booger picker off the bang switch". The odds are that having a safety would have prevented Fumble Fingers the DEI Hire from shooting him.
That’s a great point…, they’re already adrenalined up…
except when carrying having a safety in defeats the purpose of self defense. A soldier in combat does not carry with the safety on.
As I mentioned earlier in the Tueller Drill.
You always pull a gun out by the trigger.
1. This was not combat.
2. The Sig Sauer M17, the standard military issue sidearm, has a manual safety. So did the previous M9 and M1911.
The driver is more than welcome to drive around without the safety on in the event he trained to draw without deactivating the safety as part of his Tueller Drill but, if his handgun had a safety, he could have set it before an inept cop tried to take his gun and negligently shot him in the leg.
The point is that when your safety is dependent on inept cops, you might want to have a manual safety. This driver, like many reviewing this shooting, are rethinking probable scenarios and whether or not their everyday carry should have a manual safety, even if they only use it when stopped by the police. Up until today, who would have thought they'd get shot by a cop trying to secure your own sidearm? This driver didn't.
You're already risking your life enough with armed cops around, why add your gun to the devices these cops can use to show you how poorly trained they are and how little they care about safety?
They want to be "stylish", "gender affirming", "politically correct", and other such nonsense. Your safety is far, far down their list of priorities.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, yeah, if you're going to spin it around on your finger while giving your partner a "pew pew" and high-five before shooting the teacup poodle.
You are stretching the scenario. The whole point of conceal carry is self defense, often close in. A safety always on is very likely to leave one with a firearm that does not fire when needed in a stressful emergency. My point on combat is leaving a safety on is deadly which you dismissed saying it was not combat, you make my point, having a safety in self defense situation can be deadly to the person carrying. It was not about a solider in combat, it was the need to be ready.
The more you have to think about setting up your firearm in an emergency the more likely it will be useless to you when you need it.
Again I see your argument as nothing more than make a gun idiot proof and no one can do that. An idiot will always find a way.
We can differ on this but blaming the event on the lack of a safety more than an incompitent cop is just wrong.
Knowing there are incompetent cops who might Glock you in the leg with your own gun, why not carry a gun with a manual safety?
As far as we know, this driver has only been in one shooting - his own. All his training, whether it included Tueller drills or not, are now secondary to reality. He's 0 for 1 due to her incompetence and the thing most likely to have kept him at 0 for 0 was a manual safety.
This man is lucky to have survived. Having relatives of a deceased victim yell about how cops should know not to finger a trigger isn't going to bring back a dead victim.
Rule 1 and 2 of the Killhouse Rules apply:
1. Nobody is coming to save you.
2. Everything is your responsibility.
Carry a gun with a manual safety. Your skills and training are absolutely meaningless to Fumble Fingers the DEI hire...
...and they're hiring a lot more of her than they are of sane, sober, moral, and prudent people.
The moment the cops pulled him over, he was no longer in a self-defense scenario and didn't need a quick-draw to protect himself. He needed better cops (which he wasn't going to get) and a manual safety that was engaged.
What is to stop that same cop from mishandling the gun and undoing the safety? Seen plenty of cops (female, sorry girls just true) not even be able to clear a jam from limp wrisitng
Once you introduce incompetence you can justify anything.
As I said we can disagree on this in good faith.
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