You think we'd know better by now.
Posted on 12/30/2024 7:37:45 AM PST by Lazamataz
I've noticed, as of late, the quality of the arguments on Free Republic have declined. This is especially true as regards the H1B argument.
I have no intention of rehashing this argument, nor the points therein. I am speaking only to the tone and tenor of our forum participants.
Musk did us no favors by being so confrontational about this issue, and may have inadvertently sparked the furor. I fault him for that. I see he's trying to cool this down now, and that is to his credit.
However, it is my belief that the Deep State saw an opening and drove a wedge into it, to separate people on different sides of the argument, who normally would be backing Trump.
As I wrote elsewhere:
It's kinda amazing that the Deep State can ring a bell and we salivate like a Pavlovian dog.
You think we'd know better by now.
That point aside, repeatedly, I'm seeing a lot of posters lately are being rather personal as opposed to arguing the merits of their case. That behavior sheds a lot more heat than light.
It’s as if attorneys were to argue in court:
Atty 1: “Where’d you get your law degree, you fat loser? A crackerjack box? Your client is GUILTY and you are a blind FREAK if you can’t see that!”
Atty 2: “Oh, talk about blind! I understand you are a faggot in your personal life, too! Do you molest boys, you creep? YOU should be the one on trial!”
Judge: “Gentlemen, can we return to the facts of th...”
Atty 1: “Oh just shut the eff up, judge, and play with yourself under your robe, like you always do.”
Atty 2: “Yeah, shut up, you twatwaffle! I never liked you, now I know why!”
In short, I hope that people can dial things down a notch and present their cases with a lot less invective.
I myself have been guilty over the years of being nothing less than an online terrorist, but I do now see the errors of that path, especially here, where we are all one big family.
This is an important issue and we need to discuss it. I suggest we at least wait until our President is inaugurated, or, if it is important to discuss now, that we do so with a lot less invective. We are not Democrat Underground.
“If you are just now noticing, you haven’t been watching the Ukraine war threads.”
🤣
True that!
Do you know what is super-funny to me?
Three comments on this thread, about civility, have been removed by the moderator.... and probably with good reason! 😂🤣😂🤣
😅
Thanks Allegra.
Not for nothing, w_r, but when one goes BTT, one discovers the Original Sin: This is a forbidden vanity post!
Thank you central_va
While we both love America we frequently are not on the same page. When we are I get a glow of satisfaction. Not today I guess...LOL
BTT simply means 'back to the top' and is an acknowledgment of a good comment by another Freeper. It is not a vanity post so I don't know what the heck you're talking about.
"But as legit FReepers studied the war, and what actually led up to it (particularly the movie “Ukraine on Fire”), then they sounded like defeated Leftists and started attacking other FReepers. And, by the way, their non-stop personal attacks on us legit FReepers sent a clear message that they HATED US (and still hate us), and thus were obviously on someone’s payroll."You on 12/27/2024"Now we finally know whose payroll."
Regarding the war in Ukraine:
"Makes sense to me - we initiated the war, we might as well take the first steps to end it."
Unless you are Russian the second statement fits in the category of "distorting the facts". The first depends on whether or not you are on somebody's payroll.
Elon Musk@elonmusk Dec 28 Replying to @RobertMSterling
Easily fixed by raising the minimum salary significantly and adding a yearly cost for maintaining the H1B, making it materially more expensive to hire from overseas than domestically. I’ve been very clear that the program is broken and needs major reform.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1873191959441084531
Elon Musk @elonmusk Dec 27
America rose to greatness over the past 150 years, because it was a meritocracy more than anywhere else on Earth.
I will fight to my last drop of blood to ensure that it remains that land of freedom and opportunity.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1872862144615838054
Musk spent more than a quarter-billion dollars to elect Trump, including funding a mysterious super PAC, new filings show
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/05/politics/elon-musk-trump-campaign-finance-filings/index.html
You have an intellectual deficiency of some kind. I used no profanity so go pester somebody else with your nonsense.
-Intellectual Deficient
-PJ
Oh.
Thank you.
Thought it meant: Back to the top, fellow FReeper—You’ve lost the plot!
I do too, whenever I feel like engaging someone on FR I just pull this tune up and start “Thubthumping” them. I like the blonde lady, am I allowed to write ‘lady’ on this forum? She sings and plays the trumpet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kui3egBkNWA
Likening it to a director or conductor who feels the need to stop the music and say “Back to the Top” to a band or orchestra that has gone out if sync with each other.
Are you lonely?
BREAKING: According to the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, the State Department spent $4,840,082 on influencers to promote pro-Ukraine, anti-Russian talking points on social media.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4286774/posts
Unless you have a summer house in Crimea why is Ukraine more important than immigration policy aimed directly at America's key industries and ability to innovate?
Why is getting rid of obsolete weapons and spending a few percent of our defense budget on new replacement equipment for our military something that matters so much to you?
Just a little embarrassed.
Somebody has to come in and use these $5.00 Philadelphia lawyer words. That ruins a forum. This high hatting uppity talking is a sure way to destroy a forum for both sides. And don't dare say people need to elevate their vocabulary knowledge. We need to go the other way to be more inclusive. Yes, I'm tawkin' ebonics. What fo' you diss me fo dat?
yes, it's disconcerting. Why aren't more willing to get their hands dirty and join the cause? This peace loving tolerance needs to stop and stop quickly.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.