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The MAGA Movement Has Become a Problem for Trump
The New York Times ^ | Sept. 22, 2024 | Ezra Klein

Posted on 09/22/2024 1:20:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

In 2024, the deep state that defeats Donald Trump might be his own.

That, after all, is what Project 2025 was actually meant to be. The 900-page tome that Democrats hoist in front of the cameras is a festival of policy options, detailed down to the sub-agency level. But options for whom? Not for Trump himself. Even the most wonkish of presidents can only engage on a small fraction of what the executive branch does. And Donald Trump was not the most wonkish of presidents. When he said, during his debate with Kamala Harris, that he hadn’t read Project 2025 and has no intention of doing so, I believed him.

But Project 2025 — and much else like it that has gotten less press — is more than a compendium of policy proposals: It is an effort to build a deep state of Trump’s own. The presidency is not one man, Diet Coke in hand, Fox & Friends on TV, barking orders. It’s 4,000-or-so political appointees — nearer to 50,000 if Trump again uses Schedule F powers to strip civil-service protections from vast swaths of the federal government — trying to do what they think the president wants them to do or what they think needs to be done. They do that by setting policy for the more than two million civilian employees of the federal government and by writing regulations that the rest of society must follow.

Veterans of Trump’s administration believe personnel was their biggest problem. They could not act ambitiously or swiftly enough because they were at constant war with the government they, in theory, controlled.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Haitian pet and wildlife eaters have become a problem for Jammie Kammy, right Ezra?


21 posted on 09/22/2024 2:21:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If the DNC would spay and neuter their supporters we wouldn't need all these abortions.)
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I should say-one of my major irritations with it is the fact that it cannot be easily summarized by section (at least with the tools I was using)

You can see in my lengthy post above, I struggled to get even those excerpts into a readable format, and even then, I am not sure it was good enough.

If I had been organizing this, I would have demanded a format, written in a common way, that users could have easily extracted and pulled out. As it was, I gave up.

That said...one Freeper had an excellent idea: Running it through Chat GPT and asking it to summarize it...haven’t tried that yet.


22 posted on 09/22/2024 2:27:01 PM PDT by rlmorel (J.D. Vance and The Legend of The MaMaw of The 19 Loaded Guns!)
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Not only does Kamala have no platform she’s not even running against Trump’s platform.
It’s sad that some Americans will still vote for her


23 posted on 09/22/2024 2:41:56 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I love how the left thinks there is central planning to anything having to do with conservative politics. all that project 2025 is some small groups wish list. some of it good some of it bad. nothing that there is any consensus within the Maga movement that would mean enacting it.


24 posted on 09/22/2024 2:48:53 PM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

When someone hates you and is your enemy, it is probably safe to ignore their advice.


25 posted on 09/22/2024 3:00:57 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: rlmorel

MAGA will only remain with Trump if he continues doing the right things... so far so good.


26 posted on 09/22/2024 3:03:34 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No one even knows what it is.

Basically it says cut departments or eliminate them. Stop spending so much. Most is wasted or grifted off.

Every conservative has backed that for decades.


27 posted on 09/22/2024 3:05:00 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Clay Bevis and Cuck Butthead are panty wadded, pearl clutching cowards. Rush deserves better.)
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To: rlmorel

Ooooooh, so “controversial”


28 posted on 09/22/2024 3:08:25 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Clay Bevis and Cuck Butthead are panty wadded, pearl clutching cowards. Rush deserves better.)
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To: Fledermaus

When will the nyt go out of business? That would be an indicator that America is becoming GREAT again.


29 posted on 09/22/2024 3:08:59 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

NYT: The official fish wrapper of the flip-flopping obama 4.0 campaign.


30 posted on 09/22/2024 3:22:43 PM PDT by jdt1138 (Where ever you go, there you are.)
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To: Fledermaus

It is for them. It was easy for me to see why they want to demonize it...


31 posted on 09/22/2024 3:24:19 PM PDT by rlmorel (J.D. Vance and The Legend of The MaMaw of The 19 Loaded Guns!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Ezra Klein

Nope...

32 posted on 09/22/2024 3:34:00 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: rlmorel

Because it’s their gravy train.


33 posted on 09/22/2024 3:35:15 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Clay Bevis and Cuck Butthead are panty wadded, pearl clutching cowards. Rush deserves better.)
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To: Fledermaus

Exactly.


34 posted on 09/22/2024 3:39:32 PM PDT by rlmorel (J.D. Vance and The Legend of The MaMaw of The 19 Loaded Guns!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump’s campaign should tie her to Mao’s little red book, and repeat it endlessly.


35 posted on 09/22/2024 3:43:33 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This well-poisoner again, Ezra Klein.


36 posted on 09/22/2024 4:21:55 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

NYT is beating the Project 2025 dead horse because that’s all they got.

Also, abortion in the eighth and ninth month, even after the moment of birth. They are the extreme position.

A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday mornings.
Saul Alinski, Rules for Radicals, Rule #7
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The most insidious power of the media is the power to ignore. Chris Plante

Project 2025 contains recommendations from the Heritage Foundation:

De-Weaponize the Federal Government and Dismantle the Deep State,
Project 2025’s policy reforms would restore self-governance to the American people by:

Firing supposedly “un-fireable” federal bureaucrats.
Closing wasteful and corrupt bureaus and offices.
Eliminating woke propaganda at every level of government.
Restoring the American people’s Constitutional authority over the administrative state.
Returning governing power to the Congress and President instead of unelected bureaucrats. [1]

1. https://www.project2025.org/truth/


37 posted on 09/22/2024 4:26:03 PM PDT by thepoodlebites (and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.)
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To: Fledermaus

Just about every single feral alphabet agency is unconstitutional.

Get rid of them all and force their employees to get real jobs.


38 posted on 09/22/2024 4:54:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s the New York Time ... not a reliable news source.


39 posted on 09/22/2024 4:55:01 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (We used to be a Republic, we are now a Fascist Klepto-Thugocracy.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

NYT: “Project 2025”

“There you go again.”


40 posted on 09/22/2024 5:21:50 PM PDT by cross_bearer_02
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