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JD Vance, an Unlikely Friendship and Why It Ended
The New York Times ^ | July 27, 2024, 5:01 a.m. ET | Stephanie Saul

Posted on 07/27/2024 5:45:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

When his book, “Hillbilly Elegy,” was published in 2016, JD Vance sent an email apologizing to a close friend from his Yale Law School days. The friend identified as transgender, but Mr. Vance referred to them in the book as a lesbian.

“Hey Sofes, here’s an excerpt from my book,” Mr. Vance wrote to his friend, Sofia Nelson. “I send this to you not just to brag, but because I’m sure if you read it you’ll notice reference to ‘an extremely progressive lesbian.’”

“I recognize now that this may not accurately reflect how you think of yourself, and for that I am really sorry,” he wrote. “I hope you’re not offended, but if you are, I’m sorry! Love you, JD.”

Nelson wrote back the same day, calling Mr. Vance “buddy” and thanking him for “being sweet,” adding, “If you had written gender queer radical pragmatist, nobody would know what you mean.” Nelson asked for an autographed copy, then signed off with, “Love, Sofia.”

That exchange is from a series of emails between two friends, part of a close-knit group of 16 students who remained together throughout their first law school semester in the fall of 2010. As now-Senator Vance seeks the vice presidency, Nelson has shared about 90 of their emails and text messages, primarily from 2014 through 2017, with The New York Times.

The emails, in which Mr. Vance criticizes former President Donald J. Trump both for “racism” and as a “morally reprehensible human being,” add to an already-existing body of evidence showing Mr. Vance’s ideological pivot from Never Trumper to Mr. Trump’s running mate.

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The emails, in which Mr. Vance criticizes former President Donald J. Trump both for “racism” and as a “morally reprehensible human being,” add to an already-existing body of evidence showing Mr. Vance’s ideological pivot from Never Trumper to Mr. Trump’s running mate.

There were lots of Never-Trumpers who changed their minds. As Dan Bongino says, don't pay attention to what politicians say. Pay attention to what they do.

1 posted on 07/27/2024 5:45:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Thanks for the disclaimer.


2 posted on 07/27/2024 5:48:03 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Another hit piece from the New York Times. Unfortunately many FReepers eat this up and continue to complain about Trump and how he made a bad decision.


3 posted on 07/27/2024 5:48:04 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (2 coups in less than 4 years. America is truly a first world Banana Republic.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I notice the times didn’t produce these until AFTER his selection.


4 posted on 07/27/2024 5:50:52 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They would call me a former never trumper, but I’m not. I just didn’t like him because I saw him as a chameleon. But once he became president he sold me completely and utterly. I now consider him to be the best president in the last 100 years.

vI have a feeling vance may have gone through the same experience.


5 posted on 07/27/2024 5:52:11 PM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Only thing bad about Vance is he does not bring any additional voting block to the ticket. He is fine otherwise.


6 posted on 07/27/2024 5:55:16 PM PDT by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever he picks VP in November. If he loses in 2024, country is toast.)
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To: piasa

True. But you can bet they had this dirt ready to roll on ALL the candidates.


7 posted on 07/27/2024 5:55:43 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (2 coups in less than 4 years. America is truly a first world Banana Republic.)
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To: Bobbyvotes

Based on the women I’ve talked to, he is more popular with female voters than Trump, and he will help with the suburban woman vote.


8 posted on 07/27/2024 6:00:46 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Bobbyvotes
Only thing bad about Vance is he does not bring any additional voting block to the ticket. He is fine otherwise.

If MAGA doesn't win on its own, we are doomed. MAGA must outlast Trump. You bring in an Establishment guy, and they take over in nothing flat, because they still have a lot of people in the apparatus waiting for their opportunity. Vance was the most qualified elected figure who will continue MAGA post-Trump.
9 posted on 07/27/2024 6:01:45 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Bobbyvotes

The purpose of bringing him on is not to get additional votes.

The purpose is to ensure the VP aligns with Trump’s populist vision, in case Trump doesn’t make it thru his term.


10 posted on 07/27/2024 6:02:37 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I hate the police,” Mr. Vance said in his response.

None of this can be true. It is all fabricated by the NYT.

11 posted on 07/27/2024 6:02:38 PM PDT by Round Earther
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12 posted on 07/27/2024 6:09:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: cuban leaf

I did not vote for Trump in any Rep primary. He is not my first pick - or second - or third. But I voted for him in every general election, and even gave him money in 2020. I will vote for him again in 2024.

He’s not perfect, and I’m not into cults. I’m a conservative who wants to win.

I was a liberal dem in college and law school in the 60’s. My first Rep vote for POTUS was George Bush. People grow and change. I did.

Good for Vance. This piece shows real human compassion, and eventual maturity.


13 posted on 07/27/2024 6:16:58 PM PDT by theoilpainter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"There were lots of Never-Trumpers who changed their minds."

Donald Trump used to be a democrat. So did Ronald Regan. They matured with time. Many others have done the same.
14 posted on 07/27/2024 6:23:36 PM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: piasa

Why would they? It’s up to the campaign to know the background of the candidates they chose. Clearly they either did know all this or they are finding out now.


15 posted on 07/27/2024 6:24:42 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Bobbyvotes

George Bush brought a bloc to the Reagan ticket but he wasn’t worth a damn afterwards. He also led to the next Bush. And don’t forget Pence brought a voting bloc to the Trump ticket and he was even a pretty good vice president but he was quite a turncoat afterwards. I don’t know what bloc Marco Rubio would have brought but I don’t think he would be great for the next term. Only Rand Paul would be a good choice in my mind for someone who might bring a bloc with him. Besides I don’t think a bloc of voters is going to swing a presidential election from losing to winning. Bush was not the reason Reagan won and Pence was not the reason Trump won. In both of those cases the vice president made no appreciable difference. Same with Bush/Cheney.


16 posted on 07/27/2024 6:26:23 PM PDT by webheart
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I’m not sold on Vance. Apologizing for offending a freak? Not a good look JD.


17 posted on 07/27/2024 6:28:40 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: Dr. Sivana
You bring in an Establishment guy, and they take over in nothing flat, because they still have a lot of people in the apparatus waiting for their opportunity.

This is what happened with Reagan/Bush.

18 posted on 07/27/2024 6:30:26 PM PDT by Petrosius
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“I’m not sold on Vance.”

So vote for Kamala then.

L


19 posted on 07/27/2024 6:33:06 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The emails, in which Mr. Vance criticizes former President Donald J. Trump both for “racism” and as a “morally reprehensible human being,” add to an already-existing body of evidence showing Mr. Vance’s ideological pivot from Never Trumper to Mr. Trump’s running mate.

It would take an atomic scale designed for computing the weight of things too small to sehydrogen molecules to put a number on how little the general public gives a flying darn about what President Trump's running mate said about him 30 years ago.

20 posted on 07/27/2024 6:45:51 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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