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Deep-Ocean Minerals Generate Oxygen at 13,000 Feet Below Surface
Space Daily ^
| Jul 23, 2024
| Clarence Oxford
Posted on 07/23/2024 7:52:22 AM PDT by Salman
An international team of researchers, including a chemist from Northwestern University, has discovered that metallic minerals on the deep-ocean floor can produce oxygen at depths of 13,000 feet.
This finding challenges the traditional belief that only photosynthetic organisms, such as plants and algae, generate Earth's oxygen. The discovery suggests oxygen can also be produced at the seafloor, supporting aerobic sea life in complete darkness.
The study will be published on Monday, July 22, in the journal Nature Geoscience.
Andrew Sweetman from the Scottish Association for Marine Science (SAMS) discovered this "dark oxygen" during ship-based fieldwork in the Pacific Ocean. Franz Geiger from Northwestern University led the electrochemistry experiments that potentially explain this phenomenon.
"For aerobic life to begin on the planet, there had to be oxygen, and our understanding has been that Earth's oxygen supply began with photosynthetic organisms," said Sweetman, head of the Seafloor Ecology and Biogeochemistry research group at SAMS. "But we now know that there is oxygen produced in the deep sea, where there is no light. I think we, therefore, need to revisit questions like: Where could aerobic life have begun?"
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Emphasis added.
Previous theories about the unitary origin of life are in question.
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posted on
07/23/2024 7:52:22 AM PDT
by
Salman
To: Salman
So much for mining methane hydrates to “save the environment”!
2
posted on
07/23/2024 7:55:32 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
To: Salman
That’s why they are called theories...................
3
posted on
07/23/2024 7:55:55 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
To: Salman
To: Salman

Hey! The 'science is settled'!
How dare you introduce evidence to the contrary!................
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posted on
07/23/2024 7:59:22 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
To: Salman
If water (H2O) preceded plant life then so too did oxygen precede plant life.
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posted on
07/23/2024 7:59:22 AM PDT
by
Wuli
To: Red Badger
Scientific Theory: A tested and expanded hypothesis that explains many experiments and fits ideas together in a framework.
To: Wuli
“If water (H2O) preceded plant life then so too did oxygen precede plant life.”
But probably not enough to support animal life.
To: TexasGator
They didn’t test it enough..................
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posted on
07/23/2024 8:13:28 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
To: Red Badger
“They didn’t test it enough..................”
Theories are continually being tested.
To: TexasGator
Sunlight alone can breakdown water into hydrogen and oxygen, and there was plenty of surface water in oceans and lakes to give the atmosphere plenty of oxygen.
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posted on
07/23/2024 8:18:26 AM PDT
by
Wuli
To: Carry_Okie
Next ‘scientists’ will say we are not short of oil and gas.
BTW we are not by a long shot.
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posted on
07/23/2024 8:23:19 AM PDT
by
minnesota_bound
(Need more money to buy everything now)
To: Wuli
“Sunlight alone can breakdown water into hydrogen and oxygen, and there was plenty of surface water in oceans and lakes to give the atmosphere plenty of oxygen.”
Who told you that?
To: TexasGator
Sorry, my bad. I thought photocatylitic water splitting occured naturally. After you questioned it I researched and learned it only occurs by artificial processes. Mea culp, mea culpa.
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posted on
07/23/2024 8:32:43 AM PDT
by
Wuli
To: annie laurie; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Mmogamer; fragrant abuse; ...
Thanks Salman, and thanks RB for the link you sent in FReepmail. I've been delayed.
I thought my ping message graphics have been wiped out by Imgur, I guess that was just a temporary problem, but I plan to make backups today.
Thomas Gold / Deep Life ping.
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posted on
07/23/2024 8:36:44 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
To: minnesota_bound
But Julie Packard has $400 million invested in mining methane hydrate, supposedly to keep it from burping methane to the atmosphere in a tremor!!! How is she going to recoup such altruism the Rockefellers talked her into if cheaper production elsewhere isn’t artificially constrained?
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posted on
07/23/2024 8:56:29 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
The rest of the Thomas Gold keyword, sorted:
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- Earth Is An Oil-Producing Machine -- We're Not Running Out: Fossil Fuels is a misnomer. Research from the last decade found that hydrocarbons are synthesized abiotically. [12/10/2022]
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- NASA's Curiosity Rover Detects Spike in Methane on Mars [06/22/2019]
- No Signs of Aliens in the Closest 1,300 Stars, Hunt Funded by Russian Billionaire Reveals [06/19/2019]
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- Earth Is An Oil-Producing Machine â¬" We're Not Running Out [11/06/2015]
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- Hydrocarbons Could Form Deep In the Earth From Methane, Not Animal Remains [12/25/2012]
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- Billions of Tons of Methane Lurk Beneath Antarctic Ice [08/29/2012]
- Oldest known impact crater found [07/08/2012]
- Fossil Fuels. When are we going to stop using this false description of anaerobic oil? [06/04/2012]
- Arctic melt releasing ancient methane [05/20/2012]
- Huge Natural Gas From Methane Hydrates Process Developed [05/03/2012]
- XKCD - Lakes and Oceans [04/09/2012]
- What If Oil and Natural Gas Are Renewable Resources? (Evidence mounting on limitless supply of oil) [03/19/2012]
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- The Oil Scarcity Myth [03/17/2012]
- Unconventional Completion Technology Revives Old Oil Fields [02/24/2012]
- 300 million year old fossilized forest discovered under coal mine in China [02/22/2012]
- Methane Bubbling to Arctic Ocean Surface in Giant Plumes [12/15/2011]
- NASA Finds Hydrocarbons on Saturn's Moon Hyperion [07/16/2011]
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- Life found on Mars? [01/14/2009]
- BBC Audio: Dyson and Clarke (archive of BBC interviews with Freeman Dyson,Arthur C. Clarke & more!) [12/26/2008]
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- Plumes of methane identified on Mars - Finding could influence choice of landing site for Mars... [10/21/2008]
- One is the loneliest number for mine-dwelling bacterium [10/09/2008]
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- Rare Microorganism That Produces Hydrogen May Be Key To Tomorrow's Hydrogen Economy [07/08/2008]
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- Massive deep-water oil find in Brazil challenges technology [12/01/2007]
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- Energy answers sought in Earth's crust [08/13/2007]
- Heretical Thoughts About Science and Society [Freeman Dyson chides global warming alarmists] [08/10/2007]
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- Rebel with a Cause: The Optimistic Scientist [04/10/2007]
- Sea floor records ancient Earth [03/23/2007]
- The Origins of Peak Oil Doomerism [12/11/2006]
- If hydrocarbons are renewable- then is "Peak Oil" a fraud? [12/05/2006]
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- Geologist: Earth has lots and lots of oil (error in DRUDGE story - UPI may fix) [10/20/2006]
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- Plenty of Oil -- Just Drill Deeper [09/06/2006]
- Peak oil theorists don't know Jack ( It Could Increase U.S. Reserves by 50% ) [09/05/2006]
- Marine Methane Heats Things Up [09/01/2006]
- Time Before Time [speculative cosmology] [08/30/2006]
- Gas escaping from ocean floor may drive global warming [07/20/2006]
- Oil Is Well: The Shortage Is A Myth, And Not A New One [06/04/2006]
- Does Deep Earth Host Untapped Fuel? [03/05/2006]
- Are There Aliens Already on Earth? [02/20/2006]
- UC Riverside Researchers Identify Clay as Major Contributor to Oxygen that Enabled Early Animal Life [02/03/2006]
- Perspective: India's next big business? (Oil) [12/17/2005]
- 'Fossil fuel' theory takes hit with NASA finding [12/02/2005]
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- Early Water on Earth [02/09/2003]
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- Oil Fields' Free Refill - More oil than we thought (maybe) [04/23/2002]
- Huge hydrogen stores found below Earth's crust [04/15/2002]
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posted on
07/23/2024 9:05:54 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
To: Wuli; TexasGator
Photocatalytic water splitting is done biologically, but it’s a rare mutation. I’d look, because it’s around here somewhere, but it’s deeper in the FRchives than this oxygen thing is in the oceans. :^)
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posted on
07/23/2024 9:08:42 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
07/23/2024 9:12:19 AM PDT
by
LS
("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." Jimi Hendrix)
To: LS
I didn’t put one in there. :^)
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posted on
07/23/2024 9:18:16 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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