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[Vanity] Crooks Conspiracy Theory

Posted on 07/17/2024 10:14:31 PM PDT by John Robinson

We know the FBI develops "domestic terrorists" with the intent of capturing them in the act, to give themselves a great big pat on the back, push the "rightwing extremism" narrative ("but the shooter was Republican!"), and to justify budget increases.

Let's say the FBI was grooming this kid. They didn't intend for an assassination. But, of course, government is incompetent so it got away from them. (See Fast and Furious, et al.)

Now, let's assume this scheme was passed along outside and upwards of the agency, to somebody with great power, enough to influence choices within multiple agencies, or even only the USSS. If somebody knew the FBI was hatching a scheme, and because we only needed to rely on malicious compliance to get the desired kill shot, it would be pretty easy for just one or few individuals to ensure the Grade F (JB) team who hated Trump would be assigned this particular task.

That's one or very few people required to possibly effect an assassination.

To explain things like shorting DJT, that could simply be an act of insider knowledge to influence a trade, could be sourced from within the Crooks grooming FBI, or somebody who noticed a brewing flustercluck of an assignment in Trump's security detail, who also is aware of the tinderbox of a political environment currently. Actually, it seems a tipoff to an intentional weakened security detail could have alerted many others (photogs, camera crew, etc.) to take a special interest in this Butler event.

I don't buy anything these agencies say, they gaslight us profusely. But I can't do these all-encompassing conspiracy theories involving dozens if not hundreds of people. That's not how the world works. Just a few rogue people with the right knowledge and evil intention is all that is necessary. Maybe it's just two lovers texting about insurance policies?

Does this idea hold water?


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1 posted on 07/17/2024 10:14:31 PM PDT by John Robinson
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To: John Robinson

They would pick this kid?


2 posted on 07/17/2024 10:18:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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>> Let’s say the FBI was grooming this kid.

I believe that Crooks was groomed. But the CIA is FAR better at grooming than the FBI will ever be. They have been grooming “agents” for DECADES.

Think back... 52 former “intelligence officials” denying the Hunter laptop. These people know the “tradecraft”, and they also have motive to take President Trump out: they’ll lose power when he regains his rightful office!


3 posted on 07/17/2024 10:27:53 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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I find that plausible. A lot of covert action goes too close to the margin, with unpredictable effects. Stuff coming out of Northern Ireland about security agents in extremist groups backs up this notion.


4 posted on 07/17/2024 10:29:10 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: nickcarraway

>> They would pick this kid?

The intelligence services are highly skilled at “picking” and grooming “kids” for their purposes.

They have been honing their skills since before you were born.

Something pointed to Crooks as someone they could work with. And so they did!


5 posted on 07/17/2024 10:30:13 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: John Robinson
The general Mod of operation of the US government is to allow the threat to be carried out (IMO)
Example: Malzberg | Robert Spencer: The FBI Wanted Me & Pam Gellar Dead in Garland Terror Attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpD2Nmjgs_0

This was how Timothy McVeigh had help from the FBI as well(IMO)
I can list many.
I know many don't believe me but this is how 9/11 took place. It was mostly Saudi terrorist that had help from the State Department (IMO)

We can see what happened at the Trump shooting.
It would seem there is three groups of security at the site. Police, USSS and Trumps personal guards. It was USSS sniper position two that took out the assassin
It was the boundary the authorities set was how he got up there. Police during the assassination attempt stating the shooter was "out side the perimeter of the event"
https://x.com/Ultrafrog17/status/1812339070489550913
The police said they set up a very short boundary and the shooter was out side that short boundary. So the shooter parked his car out side the boundary. He carried a huge ladder from the parking lot to the building. Likely went back to get his rifle climbed the ladder to the roof and the police could only watch from about 400 feet away?

Biden gave Trump Secret service protection. To give Trump a false sense of security. The USSS counter snipers was in three positions. Two of them where blocked by a tree. no line of site to the Assassin. The other was facing the wrong way at the critical time. Important part is none took action as in scrubbing the event getting Trump out. Even when one police officer went up the ladder and the assassin pointed his weapon at him.
The police never took action.
Biden did leave up what sounds like an opening for his Manifesto:
"Donald Trump is a genuine threat to this nation. He's a threat to our freedom.
He's a threat to our democracy. He's literally a threat to everything America stands for."
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1806745000971296833

More on the USSS counter snipers: How trees blocked their view creating a dead/blind area at the location of the assassin
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4251335/replies?c=1459
6 posted on 07/17/2024 10:31:04 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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Yeah, according to this classmate he viscerally hated *ALL* politicians. They could have groomed him for any attempt, from Trump all the way to Jill, or anyone that steps near.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1813652097533112374

Bonus points for having a graynet social media presence, we’re talking Steam and other gaming platforms that don’t have web interfaces.


7 posted on 07/17/2024 10:33:37 PM PDT by John Robinson (🍺)
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Perhaps it was planned to be a demonstration to “Doctor” Jill that Slow Joe could easily have been the target. The whole thing got away from them and someone made the decision to roll with the shot.


8 posted on 07/17/2024 10:36:10 PM PDT by NonValueAdded
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There are "second shooter" theories running around based on acoustic signature analysis of the gunshots.

Maybe this kid was sent in as sacrificial "bait" to be killed on the spot thus ending the investigation while the real (second) shooter got away.

Sounds far-fetched, I know, but some solid people are conjecturing this.

Trump Attack ORCHESTRATED? INTENTIONAL Failures; SECOND Sho*ter? Secret Service in TROUBLE
Robert Gouveia Esq.

9 posted on 07/17/2024 10:36:41 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Yeah, it seems maliciously compliant on behalf of many on the USSS, who were not Trump’s regular detail—those were assigned to Jill on this day, for incredibly stupid reasons according to Bongino (playing politics over properly regarding the relative threat matrices.)

Yeah, they do “let” things happen quite often. Partly, I just want to accept they’re wholly incompetent, as I generally view all of government.


10 posted on 07/17/2024 10:41:10 PM PDT by John Robinson (🍺)
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I’m not saying he didn’t hate all politicians, just that he looks very ineffectual, and like a pipsqueak. He really doesn’t look like he could do much.


11 posted on 07/17/2024 10:42:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

My thoughts exactly.

For a job like this they pick the neighborhood nerd?


12 posted on 07/17/2024 10:45:01 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: John Robinson

“Does this idea hold water?’’.

Yeah. About as much as a sieve.


13 posted on 07/17/2024 10:46:29 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yeah, second shooter, I’ve heard. But I also have to wonder if that was an artifact of a bullet whizzing past the stage microphone before the muzzle blast was heard (speed of sound and all.) Props on the Gouveia link. Great man. I’ll have to listen to his analysis later, where it’s law, he’s my go to. Bongino is my guy here.

Also, nobody really talks about the water tower except these alternative media sources. Hmmmm


14 posted on 07/17/2024 10:47:11 PM PDT by John Robinson (🍺)
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To: jmacusa

Your counter argument?


15 posted on 07/17/2024 10:48:20 PM PDT by John Robinson (🍺)
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Perhaps “they” would pick this kid, if the plan involved a second more professional shooter, to cover up his involvement.

Perhaps the kid got lucky and fired considerably closer to target than handlers were expecting, or the pro missed and never got off another shot.

In that scenario, handlers figured kid would be way off target and if he hit anything, well it would likely be a Trump supporter or two (as he did).

But yes, I agree, the kid as lone gunman makes no sense, if you’re going to try to kill. Kid as lone gunman makes sense if your objective is simply to intimidate or create a fear of attending future events?

I am only speculating about plots because of rat er disturbing circumstantial evidence of a plot (change of security, failure to follow normal procedures, letting the kid stay on roof with Trump on stage — it all screams out organized plot, surely).

Does anyone have any theories about location of second shooter? Where’s the “grassy knoll” in this kill zone? And did the second shooter act, or abort at last second? I am no ballistics expert; how much training would a kid need to fire off shots as accurate as those witnessed?

I’ve read considered opinions that Lee harvey Oswald had enough demonstrated skill to hit Kennedy from book depository window, and no second gunman is needed to explain outcome, but a second gunman had to fire one of non-lethal shots known to have happened (to avoid magic bullet theory). But did this kid have any realistic chance to kill Trump? And even if so, would any conspirators believe he could do it?

It’s a murky combination of odd coincidences and outright inexcusable incompetence suggesting planning and a desired outcome. Killing Donald Trump would predictably have stirred up a national crisis of election-cancelling proportions, declaration of a state of emergency, martial law, etc etc.

America was perhaps within a foot or half second of that outcome — a sobering thought indeed.

And are they done? Or will they try again?


16 posted on 07/17/2024 10:48:33 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (A conspiracy theory is usually a fact that a leftist cannot endorse)
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What I mean is they’re gaslighting us John.

The State wants Trump gone.

Pray for DJT.


17 posted on 07/17/2024 10:50:21 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: John Robinson

At the bottom John.

Sorry I read your post the wrong way.

Been a long night in the ER and I just got home a little while ago.


18 posted on 07/17/2024 10:51:55 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: John Robinson
"They didn't intend for an assassination. "

Maybe. But the bullet missing by inches when Trump turned his head belies the belief that the assassination was meant to miss.

Another astonishing point is that the day before the attempt, 12 million shares of DJT stock were shorted. Someone knew. But their boy missed.

19 posted on 07/17/2024 10:52:04 PM PDT by Enterprise
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No worries, I completely missed your counter argument here. Also, hope all is well with you and yours.

As far as the kid, yeah, this is the exact type they want. Not as an actual assassin, but as a scrawny putz to larp assassin so they, the FBI, can swoop down, nab him, and be the hero at the presser.


20 posted on 07/17/2024 10:55:39 PM PDT by John Robinson (🍺)
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