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1 posted on 07/17/2024 10:14:31 PM PDT by John Robinson
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They would pick this kid?


2 posted on 07/17/2024 10:18:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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>> Let’s say the FBI was grooming this kid.

I believe that Crooks was groomed. But the CIA is FAR better at grooming than the FBI will ever be. They have been grooming “agents” for DECADES.

Think back... 52 former “intelligence officials” denying the Hunter laptop. These people know the “tradecraft”, and they also have motive to take President Trump out: they’ll lose power when he regains his rightful office!


3 posted on 07/17/2024 10:27:53 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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I find that plausible. A lot of covert action goes too close to the margin, with unpredictable effects. Stuff coming out of Northern Ireland about security agents in extremist groups backs up this notion.


4 posted on 07/17/2024 10:29:10 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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The general Mod of operation of the US government is to allow the threat to be carried out (IMO)
Example: Malzberg | Robert Spencer: The FBI Wanted Me & Pam Gellar Dead in Garland Terror Attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpD2Nmjgs_0

This was how Timothy McVeigh had help from the FBI as well(IMO)
I can list many.
I know many don't believe me but this is how 9/11 took place. It was mostly Saudi terrorist that had help from the State Department (IMO)

We can see what happened at the Trump shooting.
It would seem there is three groups of security at the site. Police, USSS and Trumps personal guards. It was USSS sniper position two that took out the assassin
It was the boundary the authorities set was how he got up there. Police during the assassination attempt stating the shooter was "out side the perimeter of the event"
https://x.com/Ultrafrog17/status/1812339070489550913
The police said they set up a very short boundary and the shooter was out side that short boundary. So the shooter parked his car out side the boundary. He carried a huge ladder from the parking lot to the building. Likely went back to get his rifle climbed the ladder to the roof and the police could only watch from about 400 feet away?

Biden gave Trump Secret service protection. To give Trump a false sense of security. The USSS counter snipers was in three positions. Two of them where blocked by a tree. no line of site to the Assassin. The other was facing the wrong way at the critical time. Important part is none took action as in scrubbing the event getting Trump out. Even when one police officer went up the ladder and the assassin pointed his weapon at him.
The police never took action.
Biden did leave up what sounds like an opening for his Manifesto:
"Donald Trump is a genuine threat to this nation. He's a threat to our freedom.
He's a threat to our democracy. He's literally a threat to everything America stands for."
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1806745000971296833

More on the USSS counter snipers: How trees blocked their view creating a dead/blind area at the location of the assassin
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4251335/replies?c=1459
6 posted on 07/17/2024 10:31:04 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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Perhaps it was planned to be a demonstration to “Doctor” Jill that Slow Joe could easily have been the target. The whole thing got away from them and someone made the decision to roll with the shot.


8 posted on 07/17/2024 10:36:10 PM PDT by NonValueAdded
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“Does this idea hold water?’’.

Yeah. About as much as a sieve.


13 posted on 07/17/2024 10:46:29 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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What I mean is they’re gaslighting us John.

The State wants Trump gone.

Pray for DJT.


17 posted on 07/17/2024 10:50:21 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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"They didn't intend for an assassination. "

Maybe. But the bullet missing by inches when Trump turned his head belies the belief that the assassination was meant to miss.

Another astonishing point is that the day before the attempt, 12 million shares of DJT stock were shorted. Someone knew. But their boy missed.

19 posted on 07/17/2024 10:52:04 PM PDT by Enterprise
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Bloggers & Personal forum, on a thread titled Did Trump’s Shooter Have Help?, Vendome wrote:
There was one guy at the presser the day after they tried to kill Trump saying the perp was outside the perimeter????

Outside the perimeter? That perimeter is is anything within eyesight of The President and a bit beyond.

How in the Ho Lee Phuk is that possible?

I’ve been to Trump rallies and snipers are everywhere, including in the hills surrounding.

Security is actually visible for miles before you even get to a rally venue.

I felt safe, as well, unconcerned for The President’s safety

Moreover, there was a helicopter circling the event

The building 20 feet behind the dead dude is actually one story higher and begs the question “Why wasn’t a team on top of those buildings?” We know the answer.

Moreover, there is a 90 foot water directly to the east and overlooking all the buildings where dead was and he would have been easily seen if a team was on that water tower.

It is only 100yrds to the east. https://www.google.com/maps/place/615+Whitestown+Rd,+Meridian,+PA+16001/@40.8585856,-79.9698802,577m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x88337d9ebe29308f:0x1b4bca6251cd761e!8m2!3d40.8585186!4d-79.9699773!16s%2Fg%2F11ckqj_ky9?entry=ttu

No one on building to secure it.

No one overlooking to secure it.

So… a guy just decides to show up at a rally and take a potshot at PDJT… and he looks around for a spot that wasn’t covered by USSS and… well whadaya know! He’s in luck. A handy barn roof with no-one on it. And his rifle happens to be sighted in for the distance to the stage.

Now, let’s just see if he can get up there with a rifle without being spotted. Well whaddaya know! Another lucky break! Wait… he was spotted and pointed out to security, Well whaddaya know! Three times lucky! Security blew it off.

Oops. His luck ran out. He was shot deader’n a doornail. Tsk, tsk. Too bad. Can’t question him now.

Gonna be lots of stuff out there

Fact is “it should have never happened “

That it did is inexplicable and no answer will be acceptable

Snipers have an Area of Operation

In that AO are Squares that they are responsible for scanning hostiles and intelligence

Each Square also has math notes for distance, elevation, declination, etc

This was not a slipup

Why is no one talking about the water tower?


28 posted on 07/17/2024 11:31:48 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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This woman has lots of good links to follow. Her "writing" style is ultra-annoying, cryptic, and hard to understand, though. But her links are solid.

Social Engineering the Public's Perception - a Poem and a video link
Two perps, but only one gets to be the poor loner high school student . . . who went bad and is registered Republican - who are the ones who are so violent ....

By JENNIFER DEPEW, R.D.

29 posted on 07/17/2024 11:32:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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The only thing I know for sure is that we will never know for sure:

Because no matter what we learn, and no matter what we can assume from logic and analysis, those who made it happen or merely allowed it to happen will never admit it.

On Sunday, I was pretty certain that there was at least one more shooter, but with things I learned on Monday, I could see it being just whoever it was on the roof, although I still believe that he couldn’t have done it without inside intel, and maybe logistical help from several law enforcement officials.

But a lot of people who were there, on the ground and close to the action are still convinced there were multiple shooters. Whether any of them have the knowledge and / or experience to actually understand what they saw and heard, I couldn’t say. Such events can be very confusing even to people who are combat veterans.


33 posted on 07/17/2024 11:53:36 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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When the individual went from suspicious to a threat you find out who in the detail ok’d letting Trump go on stage, that would be your guy to question if this kid had help.

You never let your guy go on stage under an active threat. If this was gross incompetence, well, the odds of that many blunders seem slim to impossible in my eyes.


34 posted on 07/17/2024 11:54:17 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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Why would the Democrats be any different than the Mafia? I think the Demos are capable of doing anything the Mafia might do.


40 posted on 07/18/2024 12:19:31 AM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident)
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Politely disagree...

There is no possible conspiracy that has been proposed that is outside the possibility of absolute truth...

Naturally, excluding the communist-propagated one that it was a Trump setup to fake an assassination attempt...

To ignore the horrendous “facts” in this event is simply an example of the people burying their heads in the sand......

Naturally, excluding the communist-propagated one that it was a Trump setup to fake an assassination attempt...


41 posted on 07/18/2024 12:33:15 AM PDT by SuperLuminal ( Where is Samuel Adams when we so desperately need him)
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Step 1: Put out continuous message that Trump is a clear and present danger.

Step 2: Make sure every Trump security detail is staffed with a few who plan Trump harm.

Step 3: Wait for lone gunman to show up and arrange things to aid his plan.

No need for any direct contact with gunman. Plausible deniability.

42 posted on 07/18/2024 1:19:39 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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I would call this “willful ignorance” by the SS. But let’s get to one thing missing from the entire equation. The counter sniper who was supposed to be on the roof never showed up to work. Why? Did he call in sick? That’s the key to this entire operation and post incident analysis. There is a root cause to all of this and we are not hearing from the SS as to what it is.

Find the counter sniper, question him and we will know what exactly happened. As for the shooter, people saw him prior. The police saw him prior. The SS saw him prior. They knew he was a threat within 30 minutes of Trump’s speech and no one detained him or questioned him. They were in the building and still enabled him to climb a ladder, set up a firing position, was in the sights of the counter snipers and no one gave the word to take the sniper out.

Conspiracy theory? No. Someone told the counter sniper to hold fire. Someone told the security detail not to detain the shooter. Question now is who gave those orders?


51 posted on 07/18/2024 4:01:46 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Paging Dr. Bandy Lee. Dr. Lee please pick up the white courtesy phone.)
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Who was with him at the gun range days prior? A handler verifying his shooting skills?


66 posted on 07/18/2024 7:23:28 AM PDT by 38special (The government is ruining our country!)
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A conspiracy …I’m not inclined to believe that. However, there are a lot of loose ends. For example, how was this 20 year old loser able to access a conveniently unsecured rooftop and despite being seen as much as 20 minutes before the shooting was not stopped before getting off the shot? The shooter appeared to have a family of modest means so where did someone get the money for a relatively expensive rifle and why was this particular rifle picked? Of course the FBI “investigation” will reach the foregone conclusion that the shooter was a lone wolf and not aided or abetted by anyone. The utter failure of the Secret Service will also be whitewashed. Nothing to see here citizens …move along.


68 posted on 07/18/2024 9:57:26 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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