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She said she was particularly eager to get rid of a big rendering of Czar Samuil, a 10th-century Bulgarian king. The statue, which faces Alexander, is not only ugly and obstructs the view, she said, but also “really annoys Bulgarians.”

She is not a big fan of Alexander the Great either. “I don’t feel connected to him at all. Not linguistically, not culturally, not emotionally.”

1 posted on 06/19/2024 7:39:23 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Where was he born, relative to modern day Macedonia?

That’s who owns his history.


2 posted on 06/19/2024 7:41:08 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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3 posted on 06/19/2024 7:42:31 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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This doesn’t make any sense. Why are they fussing over a candy?

Oh, it’s Great, not Grape, in the article. Never mind.

4 posted on 06/19/2024 7:44:56 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Tell me your nation hasn’t done anything relevant in the last 5t00 years without telling me. lol


12 posted on 06/19/2024 8:12:46 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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His father, Philip II of Macedon’s tomb was discovered undisturbed near Verginia, Greece, north of Thessaloniki, and is the site of a small excavation museum, built within the tomb mound itself. The best exhibit of an historic site I’ve ever seen. They recovered hundreds of artifacts, including the full armor he was buried in, shorter grieves on one side for his game leg. All beautifully displayed.


13 posted on 06/19/2024 8:17:29 AM PDT by katana
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Oh great. Something else for the Balkans people to fight over. Awesome.


14 posted on 06/19/2024 8:20:03 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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In an everchanging world, it’s good to know the people of the Balkans are still willing to go to war with each other over disputes dating back three centuries before Christ.


15 posted on 06/19/2024 8:20:23 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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The problem, though, is that most of the history on display is claimed by other countries. Present-day North Macedonia, has no real connection to Alexander the Great, who lived 2,000 years ago down the road in what is now Greece

Kinda like the Cleveland Browns.
17 posted on 06/19/2024 8:37:40 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Stormy Daniels is a McGuffin)
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Alexander was born in what is now their territory. But he wasn't descended from Bulgarian settlers like the current inhabitants (who have lived there over a thousand years).

Not original Greeks, see?

So the Christianized Turks who inhabit modern Greece are pissed off at them for even claiming to be Macedonian.

18 posted on 06/19/2024 8:44:09 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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The Kalash peoples of Kalash Valleys Chitral Pakistan are unique to Pakistan and their genetic heritage. Its always been rumored Alexander the Great & his army( s) had ventured into asfar as this area. A group of very peaceful with their ownculture and customs far removed from Islam.

Over the years they have suffered as the result of many campaigns to convert them to Islam. Some did turn and many are unhappy about it.The use of broadcasting the daily call to prayer and propaganda has had a mental impact on this small population of almost 4,000 people &


20 posted on 06/19/2024 8:51:36 AM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (loose lips sink shipse humidity)
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I think Bosnia and Herzegovina should get involved too. If for no other reason than I like to see people have to type Bosnia and Herzegovina.


24 posted on 06/19/2024 10:16:32 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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mark


25 posted on 06/19/2024 11:11:20 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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Iron Maiden. Duh


26 posted on 06/19/2024 11:11:46 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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The original kingdom of Macedonia was in what is now Greece, but all or most of "North Macedonia" was conquered by Philip II and was known as part of Macedonia from then on. The Slavic Macedonian language is very close to Bulgarian--if that area had become part of Bulgaria (as almost happened) the local language would probably just be considered dialects of Bulgarian. But under Tito the people of the "Socialist Republic of Macedonia" within Yugoslavia were encouraged to develop their language as distinct from Bulgarian (both use the Cyrillic alphabet but slightly different versions of it).

If you can believe Herodotus, the ancient Greeks did not consider the Macedonians to be Greeks (apart from the ruling family), and scholars disagree on whether the ancient Macedonian language was a dialect of Greek or a separate language. Clearly Greek was widely understood--the Athenian poet Euripides died at the royal court and the people there must have been able to understand his plays. We lack texts in Macedonian.

Alexander the Great was not popular with the Greeks of his own time, especially the Athenians, Spartans and Thebans (he destroyed the city of Thebes). The Spartans fought a war against the Macedonians while Alexander was off fighting the Persians.

I don't understand the modern Greek obsession with Alexander when there are many ancient Greeks more deserving of admiration--Homer, Solon, Heraclitus, Pythagoras, Leonidas, Pericles, Sophocles, Thucydides, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Hippocrates, Euclid, Archimedes and many others.

28 posted on 06/19/2024 3:13:00 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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