Posted on 05/09/2024 1:50:53 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
Three Marines who graduated boot camp in April were looking forward to representing their recent accomplishment at their Colorado high school graduation later this month. That was until they were told by school officials that they would not be allowed to wear their dress blues unless it was covered by a cap and gown.
Thomas Pencis, Jacob Dalton, and Christopher Ferguson went to summer school in order to finish their credits early and attend Marine Corps boot camp before graduating from Centennial High School.
Their school is in Pueblo, Colorado also known as the “Home of Heroes” because it was home to four Medal of Honor recipients: one from World War II, two from the Korean War, and another from the Vietnam War. Four large bronze statues depicting the MOH recipients sit in front of the Pueblo Convention Center, which is also home to active duty troops and veterans. In a statement to Task & Purpose, the Marine Corps said it was “aware of the sentiments expressed by Marines from 8th Marine Corps District who recently graduated high school. We value our relationships with our local high schools and will continue to respect the policies and procedures of all establishments and institutions within our communities and are appreciative of their ongoing support.”......
The story was first reported on Tuesday by a Pueblo television station, KRDO. On Thursday, the three students met with school officials, including a mediator, to find a compromise. The details are still being worked out but in general, the school decided to honor the three Marines at graduation after the presentation of the colors, while wearing their dress blues. Then the students would change into their gowns and pick up their diplomas.
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Army Zero... Got it.
Go through Marine boot camp and get back to me about our Dress uniform.
I’m sorry you couldn’t come up with a salient fact to refute my opinion. Keep trying - maybe it will get easier.
Wear the gown. Get the diploma. Take off the gown. Crowd goes wild.
USMC Dress Blues are literally the most iconic uniform in the World. And one of the most respected.
That you think a “cap and gown”, that you didn’t even spell correctly (under the gons?), should supersede that as a dress uniform for the proceedings tells me a lot about you.
They may wear it under the cap and gown can’t they? I see no problem with that.
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Keffiyehs would probably be allowed, too.
It’s funny - but a typo counts more to you than the actual UCMJ.
I asked if if it was illegal under the UCMJ to cover the dress blues with a different, required, dress for a non-military event. I do NOT know the answer to that question.
I will certainly remember your disdain and contempt of brother services in the future.
Really?
2002. BLUE DRESS UNIFORMS (See Appendix figure 7-32)
1. The blue dress “A” uniform may be worn for parades, ceremonies and formal
or semiformal social functions, for NCOs and below throughout the year and
for officers and SNCOs as appropriate to the season or those occasions
requiring uniformity with NCOs and below. The blue dress “A” uniform will be
worn for the following official military/social occasions:
a. Parades, ceremonies, reviews, solemnities, and entertainments when
the commander/senior officer present desires to pay special honors to the
occasion.
b. Official visits of, or to, United States civil officials, officers of
the United States Armed Forces, and officials/officers of foreign
governments, according to chapter 12, U.S. Navy Regulations.
c. Receptions given by, or in honor of, officials/officers listed in
chapter 12, U.S. Navy Regulations.
d. At daytime formal or semiformal occasions.
https://www.marines.mil/portals/1/Publications/MCO%201020.34H%20v2.pdf?ver=2018-06-26-094038-137
No mention of authorizing of a civilian cap and gown to be worn over it. There is an over-coat that is authorized for inclement weather and outdoor ceremonies.
It shows the choice they made and the risks they are willing to accept to serve their country.
Anybody with an ounce of patriotism should have allowed them that honor, rather than giving the standard "well, if we make that exception.." BS answer.
Congratulations, Marines!
Marines and Sailors cannot wear their uniform when participating in public speeches, demonstrations, assemblies, interviews, picket lines, marches, rallies, or any public demonstration which may imply service sanction for a cause that furthers “personal” or partisan views on political, “social,” economic or religious issues. So because the only reason listed in the thread is for personal display for their purpose, it is not supposed to be worn.
If they were going to wear the uniform to promote the corps, that could be cleared by probably not to so very young marines that would not be prepared with the experience or training to answer questions or make comments on military matters, theories, or current events that the marines have troops in those slots with the proper answers and comments. And they would be respresenting the Marines and not themselves.
wy69
Better for the Marines to wear their Blues in and out but shuck down to their skivies and put on the gown to receive their diplomas. Disguising ones uniform by putting a tablecloth on over it can get you suspected as a spy and getting one summarily shot. Don’t disguise the uni.
Incorrect of course although this gets dragged out a lot.
No, you do not have to allow pedos to dance across the stage just because you allow people currently enlisted to wear their uniforms.
No, it it not the same thing and we are under no obliged to let you do live sex acts if we allow someone else to sing "God Bless America" or allow human sacrifice if we allow a prayer.
There are restrictions on everything and as long as they are reasonable people are ok with it. What they are not ok with is the perpetual whine of "if we allow...." because it is flat out false.
This issue has been going on for years. Marine Corps doesn’t have an “official” policy beyond regs for the wearing of the various versions of the approved uniforms.
Cap and gown is NOT an approved uniform accessory.
Those of us who are proud of our service refer to that rank as "captain".
Obviously, their public decorum must also appropriately reflect on the Marine Corps.
Don't you remember when all of the services encouraged the wearing of dress uniforms and - back then, the public was proud to have them in their uniforms?
I am too. They will have plenty of time to wear the uniform. They are graduating from high school for doing the work of a high school student. When they graduated from basic training, they wore their uniform. Can you imagine if they asked to wear their cap and gown at boot camp graduation? Ha!
Wearing dress blues is not a political or social statement.
It is an honor bestowed on very few and is representative of service of the highest order to the United States of America. It overshadows the achievement of high school graduation and should be seen as the ultimate sacrifice a young person can make which benefits everyone.
These Marines should attend, sit on the front row and remain silent in their dress blues.
My sons were homeschooled and enlisted in the Corps together at age 16 and 17. Their graduation from Basic Training was one of the greatest moments in my wife and I’s life.
Its no surprise that the communist infested school district wants to recognize their achievements.
This sounds so much like inclusion. We must include all those different. This is dumb. Wear the cap and gown.
“Anybody with an ounce of patriotism should have allowed them that honor, “
I think I know a little about patriotism having volunteered for a tour in Afghanistan, 3 in Iraq and over 27 years of Army Service. Go back to eating your crayons.
From the article: “Their school is in Pueblo, Colorado also known as the “Home of Heroes” because it was home to four Medal of Honor recipients: “
They should follow in the footprints of the 4 and emulate how they walked the stage.
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