Posted on 08/12/2023 7:02:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Archeologists have unearthed the lost remains of a Teotihuacan village, including human burials, in the heart of Mexico City.
Ceramics found scattered around the site, which is located 1.5 miles (2.4 kilometers) northwest of the city's historical center, indicate the village dates from around A.D. 450 to 650 and may have housed a community of artisans and craftspeople...
The newly excavated settlement may have formed during the "ruralization" of Teotihuacan, an ancient metropolis that flourished in the highlands of what is now central Mexico between A.D. 100 and 650, Campos-Varela said. The village is located 25 miles (40 km) to the southwest of Teotihuacan and may have been one of several small towns that supported themselves through subsistence farming and fishing as the ancient city reached its zenith. These settlements maintained commercial ties to Teotihuacan, and the new discoveries shed light on the role these settlements played in the city's supply network, Campos-Varela said...
Archeologist Francisco González Rul discovered the first clues of this village's existence in the 1960s, during construction works in the Mexican capital. Based on ceramics he unearthed, González Rul suggested at the time that the inhabitants were self-reliant fishers and gatherers. The new excavations confirmed this.
Several previously unseen architectural structures — including post holes, flooring, channels and an artesian well — as well as ceramics have come to light. The excavation also unearthed three human burials containing the skeletons of two adults and a child.
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Archeologists discovered three human burials in the remains of the lost village.Image credit: Marisol Bautista Roquez, INAH
That stack of dishes must have been just too much...
Couldn’t help it. The image begged for it. lol
Thank God for the Conquistadors.
And for dessert, lady fingers!
Lol...
Incredible... Right to pure savage and brutal hate in God’s name. I saw nothing in this article that would even warrant such a statement.
(Before the moon was a consideration) One more crappy meal Alice, and I swear, I will bury your entire set of cookware, in a hole, and stuff you on top of it!
Eh....The article speaks of Teotihuacan as a metropolis. I mean, The Aztecs were initially chased out of northern Mexico because they were so brutal and savage, where they basically made a fortress out of Teotihuacan due to its topography, they were able to fend off other tribes out to kill them.
Aztec savagery was their downfall, as their whole society was brittle because subordinate tribes ended up siding with the Conquistadors instead of defending the Aztecs. I agree with nwrep.
“Aztec savagery”
Savagery is savagery no matter the source. There is no such thing as righteous just savagery to combat savagery. A wrong does not right a wrong. It is hypocritical to even think so.
“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 6:1
“If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person’s religion is worthless.” James 1:26
“Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God?” Romans 2:3
I can read... There are many more explaining God does not approve of hypocritical self righteousness in his name.
Violence is the only answer in the face of pure evil, such as Aztec ‘society’, who believed human blood was required to satisfy their gods. We’re not talking about questionable acts like forced conversion of Muslims to Christians and so forth.
Judgment is the fruit of life, I do not subscribe to a philosophy of an absence of judgement. Not every religion or society is on equal terms.
Pure savagery was what the Conquistadors ended. The human sacrifices.
“Pure savagery was what the Conquistadors ended. The human sacrifices.”
And the Spanish Inquisition was not mass savage and brutal human sacrifice to a God? And the mass murder of these people was more righteous than their human sacrifice?
Same Same, source does not matter. A wrong does not right a wrong.
My point was the article had absolutely nothing related to or pointing to human sacrifice or the Conquistadors. Why bring something completely unrelated into it?
Yet you went out of your way to praise mass murder it when it wasn’t even in the content. Why? There was nothing related that even called for it. So the source was rooted in perpetual obsessive hate towards everything and anything not Christian.
“such as Aztec ‘society’, who believed human blood was required to satisfy their gods.”
And the Spanish Inquisition was not mass savage and brutal human sacrifice to a God?
No, you are not going to sell me that one wrong is more righteous than any other wrong.
This is a self righteous hypocritical concept of man, not God.
The Conquistadors defending themselves and sacking the Aztecs does not absolve the Spanish Inquisition. You’re conflating different things. You also seem to believe in a very left wing version of history. That the Spanish went in and wholesale cleaned house of all the natives is a revisionist America hating version of events and nowhere near the truth.
Thank you for pointing that out-my ancestors came to the New World from the Spanish Pyrenees in the late 16th century and were common farmers, herders, etc-not nobility, they were not financially able to get a Spanish bride in the frontier areas they settled in. So they married local Native American women-we know some of those young women were Apaches, so little doubt a few were also their cousins, the Aztecs. In any case, they were better suited to farm and ranch life on the frontier that is now south and west Texas and New Mexico than a Spanish girl used to being in a town.
I have a cousin who is married to an archaeologist whose thing is the study of Paleo-Indian ruins, culture, etc- so I’ve read extensively about both my Spanish ancestors and the few Native ones-both were bloodthirsty, tortured people to death, raped, murdered and stole treasure from each other-the Spanish Inquisition was an abomination perpetuated in God’s name-no better than what Muslims did in the Middle Ages, or Mongols, etc.
Every group of people has practiced torture, ritual murder and cannibalism in the last 1000 years-those lily-white Druids did it, as well as other European people. They way I see it, neither Natives or Spaniards were people I’d call better than the other, but those were brutal times to live in-the conquistadors were NOT anything to “thank God for”-their methods of torture and death were just more refined than those of the natives-check out the way they not only murdered and enslaved Natives, but their own “common” people in both Spain and the New world-they considered them lesser beings. NOT nice people...
Now, please excuse me-I have to go sacrifice an enemy warrior and drink his blood...
“You also seem to believe in a very left wing version of history. That the Spanish went in and wholesale cleaned house of all the natives.”
I didn’t say anything about that at all. Diseases from the New World wiped out a lot of them. nwrep praised God for the Conquerors and suggested that perspective as true. So don’t twist that on me.
What I said was, based on the very factual Spanish Inquisition, to praise one savage brutal culture as being righteous for destroying another savage brutal culture is hypocritical. The Spanish were no more civilized than the Aztecs where brutal savagery is concerned. They just had more advanced sophisticated toys to use for their human sacrifices than the Aztecs did. And they claimed savage, brutal, ignorant murder was God’s will. Once again:
And the Spanish Inquisition was not mass savage and brutal human sacrifice to a God? And the mass murder of these people was more righteous than their human sacrifice?
It is a simple yes or no question I’m sure you are intelligent enough to understand, yet you refused to acknowledge or answer. Ignoring it will not change the historical reality of it. It is the pot calling the kettle black.
“The Conquistadors defending themselves and sacking the Aztecs”
Good thing they kept the Natives from attacking Spain! Are you kidding me? Defending themselves? I am not sure I have heard anything so twisted backwards before. Their very title “Conquistadors” proves exactly the opposite. Their title is not “defenders”.
Let me start again. There was nothing in the article content about sacrificial practices OR the conquistadors. It is about a settlement of Artisans and Craftsmen. There was absolutely nothing that should have triggered nwrep to praise God for the Conquistadors destroying them. Like you said, the perspective is false to begin with. But it was not my perspective, I didn’t say it. The article didn’t even hint of it.
I don’t think anyone here is defending a left version of history-I’m certainly not-it is what it is, and nobility wasn’t involved on either side of any conflict over territory, treasure or resources-500 years ago, people were all still brutal-some were just more refined than others. The Natives did not all get killed-that is a ridiculous notion-if they had, people like me-descended from the former residents of Spain would not have any Native DNA.
The Spaniards did enslave, rape, murder the Natives that did not get the hell out of Dodge and go North into the Frontier, but they did that to their enemies in Europe, as well-history does not paint the Spanish as nice people any more than it does their Roman ancestors-and we all know what they did from the beginning to the end of the Roman Empire, everywhere they went...
Native Americans were engaged in bloody warfare all the time-they fought over territory, water and food sources, political advantage, trade routes etc. They formed alliances with other tribes to go to war with enemies-some chieftains who didn’t like Aztec rule made alliances with the Spanish to take down the emperor Moctezuma, and murder his successor Cuatemoc as well-nothing personal, just business as usual for humans at that time, in Europe or the New World-but the Spanish broke the alliance and massacred a bunch of people, they fought back etc-it was war, plain and simple. But there wasn’t any genocide-anyone who thinks there was needs to talk to an archaeologist with a brain-or just go online and do some non-biased reading...
There weren’t any clean hands or noble motives in war in those times...
Agree 100%-thank you!
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