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Do you believe George Floyd was murdered or was he having a medical crisis that would have killed him?
Hennepin County coronors office.- ^ | 5/26/2020 | Andrew M. Baker, M.D.

Posted on 05/07/2023 3:01:57 AM PDT by meatloaf

Several things about the George Floyd's death have bothered me,

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KEYWORDS: autopsy; fentanylfloyd; georgefloyd; vanity
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Several things about the George Floyd incident caught my attention.

Was George Floyd having a medical crisis?

The first was situation in the store which lead to the clerk calling 911. Did the clerk call 911 because of the counterfeit money along with Floyd being disruptive?

Did dispatch inform the police of the complete situation in the store?

Videos seem to show Floyd having some sort of issue.

When did Floyd start saying he couldn't breathe? Was that while he was in the back of the police car and started resisting. Or later.

I've long had a respect for the expertise and investigatory ability of freepers.

I'd like to call on that to settle the questions that have bothered me.

One of those issues is the condition of Floyd's lungs. Their weight is more than the maximum for males and they appeared to be somewhat filled with fluid but pneumonia wasn't noted on the autopsy.

Thoughts?

1 posted on 05/07/2023 3:01:57 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: meatloaf

He was DOOMED to die like this.


2 posted on 05/07/2023 3:03:43 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: meatloaf

Fentanyl suppositories are bad, mm’kay?


3 posted on 05/07/2023 3:05:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: meatloaf

accidental at best...not murder per se...that’s the last thing the cop intended.


4 posted on 05/07/2023 3:12:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: meatloaf

First, on the fluid around lungs....I think the guy was just walking around and waiting for some heart attack to occur. If you’d assessed his health impact...scale of one to ten, he probably was going to be dead within three to five years.

Second, he stops at the ‘mom-and-pop’ shop to buy only a pack of smokes (which is probably a higher cost than a regular grocery store). He presents a counterfeit $20 and the clerk checks it....finding it is counterfeit, and then asks him to remain while he calls the cops.

George walks out, with the smokes.

In these minutes, this being early morning....the cops have nothing much going on, and they arrive around six to seven minutes later.

All George had to do...was enter the SUV and drive away. Instead, he climbs into the vehicle, and waits. Why? A normal person would have left and put a mile or two between themselves and the cops.

This part of the story has never made sense to me. Where the counterfeit $20 came from? Never discussed. Wonder why?


5 posted on 05/07/2023 3:15:52 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: meatloaf

pulmonary edema from opioid overdose

chauvin has been having trouble getting an appeal

they know he wins on appeal


6 posted on 05/07/2023 3:17:05 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: meatloaf

I have watched some video from the incident. At no time did I see where Floyd had his windpipe compressed by the officer. As much as I hate punk-ass cops, this case is pure, unadulterated bs imo.


7 posted on 05/07/2023 3:22:03 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: meatloaf

Floyd had heart disease and was also high on fentanyl at the time of his arrest. I saw the whole body cam footage from two separate officers. Floyd began saying “I can’t breathe” before anyone even touched him, which suggests he might have been having a heart attack. He was also saying a bunch of other incoherent things. Then he began reacting wildly and was eventually restrained. The first thing the cops did was call an ambulance. I didn’t see any malevolent intent by the cops.


8 posted on 05/07/2023 3:29:23 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: meatloaf

He committed suicide by drugs.


9 posted on 05/07/2023 3:29:33 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: meatloaf

The officer obviously did not intend to kill him. However, he did not pay any due attention to ensure non-harm to Floyd.

It was negligent homicide, imo.


10 posted on 05/07/2023 3:32:52 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Let us celebrate Cinco de Mayo, the dance of five mayonaisses.)
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To: meatloaf
Does it matter?

He fit the need for the Left's propaganda campaign. If not George Floyd, it would have been someone else (like 25-year-old black jogger/thief Ahmaud Arbery in south Georgia). Facts just get in the way when the goal is propaganda...particularly when the segment of the population that is the target of the propaganda is highly emotional.

The black community doesn't seem to realize it is being used by the Democrats. They are nothing but a cache of bombs that the Left lobs whenever they need to create chaos.

11 posted on 05/07/2023 3:33:13 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”)
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To: meatloaf

At the time of the incident, I remember an anesthesiologist offering wooden chest syndrome as a possible cause of death.


12 posted on 05/07/2023 3:33:41 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (I believe it! He's alive! Sweet Jesus!)
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To: ComputerGuy

“As much as I hate punk-ass cops, this case is pure, unadulterated bs imo.”
I agree, best not to live in a Democrat city, especially one with black people in positions of power.
I don’t live in a city period, I just have to deal with Asian Democrats. Hawaii.


13 posted on 05/07/2023 3:48:55 AM PDT by rellic
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To: meatloaf

don’t know, don’t care.


14 posted on 05/07/2023 3:55:15 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Ann Archy

Was a drug problem,why the hell are you asking now?


15 posted on 05/07/2023 3:58:04 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: meatloaf

Read the toxicology report.


17 posted on 05/07/2023 4:14:28 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

Interesting to me as I’ve never heard that named event.

This phenomenon of fentanyl-induced respiratory muscle rigidity (FIRMR) and laryngospasm is clinically known as wooden chest syndrome (WCS), which occurs within 1 to 2 minutes after injection and lasts ∼8–15 minutes (Grell et al., 1970; Scamman, 1983; Streisand et al., 1993).

Noradrenergic Mechanisms in Fentanyl-Mediated Rapid Death ...

nih.gov
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › articles › PMC6863461


18 posted on 05/07/2023 4:15:56 AM PDT by deport
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To: meatloaf

BTTT


19 posted on 05/07/2023 4:19:22 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jonty30

I think the charge should have been involuntary manslaughter.


20 posted on 05/07/2023 4:24:41 AM PDT by meatloaf
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