Posted on 03/07/2023 3:26:56 PM PST by daniel1212
In the Northeast woodlands the most feared and hated nation was the Iroquois — especially the Mohawk and Seneca. The Algonquian speaking nations and Iroquoian speaking Huron were particular enemies of the Iroquois. In the 1640s, the Iroquois unleashed a virtual genocide on the other Nations of the region, one that was not quickly forgotten.
The Ojibwa defeated a number of the Iroquois incursions and ran the Sioux out of their forested homeland onto the plains. The Ojibwa (Chippewa and associated bands) occupied more land than any other tribe ever has from Manitoba to Indiana and took over smaller tribes on their pursuit west.
In the Southeast, the Muskogean-speaking peoples made up the largest linguistic group and included the Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek, Cherokee, and Seminole among others. These were know as the Five Civilized Tribes, but their martial abilities should not be underestimated. The Seminole, in particular were suppressed but never defeat by US forces. Creeks were the dominant people in Georgia during the majority of its colonial era.
There is no doubt the Crows were among the fiercest on the Plains/Yellowstone regions. Excellent horsemen, horse raiders, great hunters, epic warriors and iconic Chiefs. They were also among the most wealthiest in terms of horse numbers. They fought virtually every tribe on all sides to defend their hunting grounds and homelands with little to no "alliances" unlike the Sioux. The Sioux Indians were one of the most feared Nations, but they were actually a large alliance — Dakota, Lakota, Sioux, often siding with the Cheyenne.
In the Southwest, the Comanche were particular unfriendly to other bands, but the Pima seem to have been the Nation most feared by other tribes. The Comanche were noted for being fierce warriors who fought vigorously to defend their homeland. However, they were, at one time or another, at war with virtually every other Native American group living on the Southern Plains. Many historians debate whether the Comanche deserve their ferocious reputation.
The attacks of the Apache on the Pima Villages caused the Pima to develop their own unique militia organization capable of offense and defense. This “militia” had its antecedents in Pima auxiliaries used by the Spanish garrisons from 1694. In 1857. an estimated 300 Yuma, Mohave, Apache and Yavapai warriors attacked a Pima Maricopa village in one of the largest all native inter-tribal battles in Arizona's history. The Maricopa / Pima forces, some mounted on horses, surrounded the attackers before annihilating them. The attackers lost 200 killed to the Pima.
https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-most-terrifying-Native-American-tribe-to-get-in-a-skirmish-with-during-the-Indian-Wars-I-have-an-Apache-friend-who-swears-it-was-the-Pima-Tribe-who-I-really-know-nothing-about-I-always-thought-it-was/answer/James-Martin-2066
Yes! I have the DVD!
There was some civilization in the southeast that got totally wiped out
They were probably the most hated.
Glad someone else has seen it!
I was watching it at my brother’s house about a year after I had seen it in a theatre. A fairly short way into the movie, his wife ran out , saying that it was too shocking and unsettling for her to watch.
This whole thread surprises me, because I thought it had been established that the Comanche was (by far) the fiercest human being on the continent.
Although it's pretty clear that others here know this subject better than I do.
And in the end, the firewater did him in.
You might be interested in the history of the North American Martyrs.
The Comanche were noted for being fierce warriors...Many historians debate whether the Comanche deserve their ferocious reputation.The author seems to contradict himself.
Likely the author - who seems to be a conservative - knows (as we do) that historians can contradict each other.
I believe Ira Hayes was a Pima Indian. He is famous for being one of the six marines who raised the flag on Iwo Jima.
I don’t think Iroquois was a tribe. In 7th grade we learned it was a Nation, made up of tribes
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You are absolutely correct. I grew up on Oneida land and worked for the nation a while. All us kids in the local school districts were taught the Iroquois nation was formed when Peacemaker united the tribes of the Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, Seneca and Tuscarora.
Along with his PTSD...he had quite a bit of service before the nightmare of Iwo.
“check out the 1991 Canadian movie, Black Robe”
I saw it! With Lothaire Bluteau. Who also played a psycho villain on Miami Vice. And also in the Vikings TV series. King of France iirc.....
Dave Chapelle - Meeting American Indians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6dOWybxQjg
The Comanche pretty much killed everybody they came across. Black, white, Hispanic, other Indians. Didn’t matter.
Pacific North East Indians (no dot) were raided every year in the fall by the Canadian tribes for slaves. Mostly men were killed and the women taken as slaves. All the stored food was also taken. Fall was when every one who could either hid in the deep forests or high up in the mountains.
But most times, food was so plentiful that no one worried about it. Shellfish & crabs were considered ‘starvation’ food.
In addition to the plentiful salmon, there were deer and elk. Then there were also 7 types of edible berries which were, like meat, dried and the berries formed into fist-sized balls.
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The Fukawi...................
There’s also the Slapaho tribe.
The Fukawi were feared warriors.
Other tribes were always asking, “Where the Fukawi?”...................
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