Posted on 02/25/2023 12:26:39 AM PST by Morgana
Horrific footage released by police shows a wheelchair-bound woman slurring and pleading with police as she is arrested for refusing to leave hospital, just moments before she died from a stroke in the back of a cop car.
Knoxville Police have released their body camera video of the harrowing incident which happened at Fort Sanders Regional Medical Center, in Tennessee, on February 6.
Lisa Edwards, 60, had been refusing to leave the hospital and was arrested on trespassing charges when she died in the back of the police cruiser – minutes after telling cops 'you're going to kill me'.
The footage shows Lisa being taken into custody, gasping and wheezing before she tells officers that she 'can't breathe'. Her skin becomes grayer, and her voice more slurred as the footage continues. The latter is a well-known symptom of a stroke.
Authorities released the hour and 16-minute video with a warning that some of the video may be distressing. Lisa starts telling an officer that she can't get back up to the hospital, with officers struggling to get her into the back of the van before she says she needs to sit down.
Officers can be heard being brusque with her, telling her to 'help them help her' as she starts wheezing and slurring her words while wearing a hospital
One cop can be heard telling her that she's 'been medically cleared' before another says 'you weren't having any breathing problems when you were out here smoking a cigarette.'
Lisa is then told to 'stop' when she says 'I'm going to pass out', with the officer telling her 'you're going to get in there one way or another.'
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I was hoping to see a picture of her wearing a hospital.
I remember being 60.
I agree with you on that point. I admit I did not take the time to watch the video.
But there are several things in that video that made my opinion gradually turn on the police. The ankle business is the first. The second was that she was begging for her inhaler, and one officer looks through her suitcase, finds something that looks like it might be the refill portion of her inhaler, and just puts it back without a word. The third is that by the time they load her into the back of the patrol car, her breathing is so labored, you can hear it over the engine of the car. You can also hear when it finally just... stops. Not a pleasant video to sit through, overall.
I stayed lucid through the stroke and woke as they were rolling me out of the thrombectomy. I didnt think there was a break in my consciousness. Im told that thats relatively rare and that I should write a book.
It was a real trippy experience, especially the part where it seemed to me then that I was “abducted by Russians” and then rolled into an operating room where they seemed to get different orders then rolled me right back out. I knew that they were only trying to trick me into thinking that something was wrong, but I was on to them and would never tell them a thing! NEVER!!!
We have all had them, and police have them as well.
If she were in that bad of shape, then the hospital is the one to take the blame here, for it was them who cleared her release, not the police. They are going by what the hospital has communicated to them.
But I still want to know if her family had been told about her or if they just called the police.
Since Covid, I have taken a rather different view on our medical complex, because they too are not in it for the best interest of the citizens. For them we are only a commodity, for which they have little regard for.
Lol
Write your book. Somebody up there likes you
Where did the police dump the dead woman? It wasn’t clear.
My God, that’s scary stuff! I’m glad you’re OK now!
IF they found out she had no money, I am not sure what to think.
(didn’t watch the video per FR standards for commenters).
Why should hospitals be forced to care for people who won’t pay? I am not sure that is ethical, either.
I am sorry this lady suffered and died. But I don’t think assuming everyone else is going to take care of you is the answer.
She may have had no family.
She may be estranged from her family.
Her estrangement may even be her fault.
It’s an ethical dilemma that bumps right up on socialism. If a person shows up at a hospital and says they need care, even if they have no money or insurance (if she was elderly she surely had Medicare), and the hospital makes an error? in not predicting her imminent death? and she is acting like she is just drunk or high. . . and smoking while saying she can’t breathe?
I mean I am not sure about “fault,” here. But I am truly sorry she suffered like so in any case.
She might be well insured, have loving family that wasn’t contacted, had all sorts of vital signs that indicated she should stay in hospital, I don’t know. In which case she is a total victim.
Acute asthma can definitely lead to a stroke or heart attack, and using an inhaler probably would have made a difference.
The hospital is at major fault here. They kicked the old lady to the curb and called for the cops to haul her away. The cops were "just following orders". (We all know how much that defense is good for).
Cops are not qualified or generally capable of diagnosing medical problems. "Following procedures" can frequently worsen real medical problems - as we just saw in this instance.
The lady was claiming a variety of symptoms for conditions which she clearly did not have, and the hospital admins decided to get rid of her. They succeeded beyond expectations. But she did have some real medical problems and the arrest worsened them to the point where she died.
Having the old lady removed as a cost saving measure for the hospital is going to turn out as "Epic Fail".
I wrote that too...I was wrong and so were the cops..They should have gotten doctor out there to check her out....
Hospital. Cops were relying on the hospitals professional judgment and simply executing the trespassing complaint.
Family and children will always know how the police killed their grandmother.
:)
I understand the part about hospitals are not a charity but it depends on whether this hospital is a county hospital or not, IMO (i.e.. one that is normally required to deal with this kind of patient money problem).
I DID watch the video and the officers’ and security detail’s actions and attitudes were, frankly, “I could give a shit about you.”
I’ve BEEN in hospitals like this. Foreign educated doctors, bad English, uncaring attitudes and are constantly at the mercy of what a hospital administrator might say about non-paying patients. Or, if it’s not a county hospital and the patient doesn’t have means to pay they do the very MINIMUM required by law and start looking for St. Elsewhere to take them.
Standing in a hospital, it’s a rare cop who can deliver a convincing diagnosis at odds with the medical staff.
The hospital is definitely very much to blame in the first place.
“ So who’s at fault here? The hospital who discharged her too early or the police for not realizing she was in real medical distress? Or both?”
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Both but the lion’s share belongs to the Hospital. What, were they wanting to MAKE ROOM FOR THE ILLEGAL ALIENS AND THEIR FREE CARE?
“We were only obeying orders” is NOT AN EXCUSE.
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