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Since America is probably ending, I have a suggestion.

Posted on 12/07/2022 7:54:47 PM PST by Jonty30

Historically, once a country is on a path to socialism, it is very nearly impossible to turn it around. It also takes upwards of 100 years to work socialism out of society.

This is where, I believe, America is now heading. The liberals have managed to create a voting system that almost ensures an electoral win every single time and I don't think America can recover.

So I have a suggestion. In the event that America really is done, as we all knew her, I suggest that each of you start gathering documentation of America's founding and the Founding Fathers and everything about America, including the educational materials like math and science and English and civics and everything.

I do not doubt that, once the communists have taken control of Congress, they will make what is in the archives disappear. They may even openly burn the Archives, because they have so much contempt and hatred for America.

In the event that the day should come and we can start working socialism out of America, this information will be like gold. I'd even suggest signing books out of your public libraries and "losing" them and giving the libraries the replacement costs for the books, just so you have a record of something.

I do believe that America falling into socialism is a necessary step just before the coming of the Messiah, but if the Messiah is not coming for hundreds of years, we will say, then we need something to build upon once this madness has passed from the American people.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Business/Economy; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: anotherstupidvanity; fakenews; godless; nofaith; vanity
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To: Jonty30
Since America is probably ending [...]

Has been, since ratification of the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, in 1916.

Ending, ending, ending, ending...

Regards,

201 posted on 12/08/2022 5:57:02 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Jonty30

“...America falling into socialism”

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America fell into socialism nearly a century ago. However, I think you could have classified much of that type of socialism more as the ‘safety net’ type of stuff. Within the last 50 years we transitioned into the ‘welfare state’ type of socialism, where you have large segments of the population who are dependent of government.

All of that is just a part of the death spiral that is socialism. But what I think is starting to surprise many is not the accellerating creep of socialism, but the increasing signs that our government does not truly operate as the representative form of democracy that we thought it did. To those who were observant, it has been apparent for several decades that the money and the parties control outcomes. That was not good enough. Now it seems that elections cannot be conducted fairly.

I think it’s evident to anyone who studies history knows that fascism is the inevitable evolution of run-away socialism, because eventually you “run out of other people’s money”. I just did not think it would come this quick, or that they would be so clever as to keep the facade and the illusion of normal government in place, rather than having a fascist moment like the Peruvian who so recently tried to dissolve his congress.

You can hide your federalist papers under the matress all day long. As long as the idiotic masses think we are still operating under the constitution even when we aren’t, there’s nothing you can do that wont make you look like a crazed right-winger, which is exactly what they want.


202 posted on 12/08/2022 5:57:25 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: neverevergiveup

You are too optimistic and that is more dangerous than knowing when the time has come to pick or choose what happens next. Optimism is a way of thinking, not of doing.


203 posted on 12/08/2022 5:58:06 AM PST by dforest (What are we sittin' around for? )
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To: Jonty30
The clues fit.

So does almost every other event throughout history.

204 posted on 12/08/2022 6:01:51 AM PST by GingisK
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To: RoosterRedux
A country that has some socialist tendencies or socialist-like programs is not a socialist/communist country.

A woman who only occasionally trawls the streets, looking for "customers," is not a prostitute.

A married woman who only sometimes invites the milkman in for a "quickie" is not an adulteress.

Your unmarried daughter is only a little bit pregnant.

I could go on...

Regards,

205 posted on 12/08/2022 6:06:48 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: amorphous
But in this case, he did appeared in His glory to his disciples and many others in coming days after His resurrection:

Many mainstream churches interpret that Biblical passage as referring rather to the Second Coming, to the establishment of His Kingdom on Earth after the Apocalypse - not merely to Christ's appearance after the Resurrection.

But if we accept YOUR interpretation, my original question still stands DOUBLY: Why would anyone refer to an event (like Christ's appearance to his disciples after the First Resurrection) as happening "when many of you standing here today will not yet have tasted Death?" - when it was, in fact, mere weeks away?

Can you imagine addressing a group of friends and neighbors in this way, referring to an important, much-hoped-for event destined to happen mere weeks in the future, as "happening before all of you are dead?"

Is that plausible?

Regards,

206 posted on 12/08/2022 6:13:48 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: amorphous; Angelino97
The Constitution and our form of government only works for a 'virtuous' people. That's why it's collapsing now that the less than virtuous have the reigns.

John Adams observed: "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Regards,

207 posted on 12/08/2022 6:17:31 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Are the firemen going to go around burning books a la Fahrenheit 451?

No. They will dump all those USB drives into a grinder.

208 posted on 12/08/2022 6:28:51 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐Public hangings will wake 'em up.⭐⭐)
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To: alexander_busek
Argumentum ad absurdum.

By the same token you are arguing a girl who sleeps with a few of her boyfriends during her time at college is a whore or that a dictatorship that offers citizens a little bit of freedom is a "free country."

The UK and Germany call themselves "socialist countries" but they are not socialist or collectivist or communist states. They have merely adopted some of the superficial embellishments of socialism.

Venezuela is a socialist country.

209 posted on 12/08/2022 6:48:00 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: alexander_busek
I could go on...

And you probably will.;-)

210 posted on 12/08/2022 6:51:00 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: frogjerk

It’s not rot. It’s not decay.

It’s corrosion!
The difference being, there is an active agent involved in the decomposition of the substance that was America.

Corrosion penetrates and dissolves.

You can see this in nearly EVERY aspect of society, culture, economics, and government.

It is simply impossible to believe that this is a random degeneration of quality of our essence. This is deliberate.


211 posted on 12/08/2022 6:52:35 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Jonty30
I don't think these two are smart enough to come up with this Marxist takeover but they were definitely a big part of putting it in warp speed after being put in the position to do it. At the very least they brought it out in the open after decades of stealth planning and manipulations by the Uniparty criminals which included Satan's minions such as Soros, Schwab, WEF, Blackrock, the UN, and all the other enemies of freedom and the USA in general. The USA has been, until now, the only country stopping them from their western takeover.

Dirty Obama pledged to "fundamentally transform America".

https://thenewamerican.com/the-fundamental-transformation-of-america/

My hope is when the totalitarian commie thugs start their physical takeover by confiscating our tools of self-protection against enemies foreign and domestic that every patriot takes out 10+ thugs before they go on to Heaven in the afterlife. Maybe then we will end up with no thugs and enough patriots to start again banning all leftists from ever holding office since this story just keeps repeating throughout history and always ends the same way.

One of Trump's greatest accomplishments was exposing the fully corrupt left (which includes rinos). We now have a crystal clear vision of who the enemy within is and the enemy from without who are funding them. There are no good leftists or rinos. Not one single one. I don't even see them as human. More like some kind of parasitic species better left to rot in human waste settling ponds where they fit in perfectly and smell the same.

212 posted on 12/08/2022 7:06:06 AM PST by Boomer (The biden regime / identity politics is a clear and present threat to this constitutional republic.)
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To: alexander_busek

yes the wording was not good there, maybe I have second-hand COVID fog.


213 posted on 12/08/2022 7:20:16 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (If Arizona held the Olympic Games, Usain Bolt would lose to Joe Biden)
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To: alexander_busek

Dystopian novel books more geared for teens.


214 posted on 12/08/2022 7:29:34 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: RoosterRedux
And you probably will.;-)

At the slightest provocation!

Regards,

215 posted on 12/08/2022 7:30:51 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Argumentum ad absurdum.

Some truths become a little clearer, when a bit of exaggeration is employed.

By the same token you are arguing a girl who sleeps with a few of her boyfriends during her time at college is a whore [...]

Now you are straw-manning my argument. A college girl who doesn't "trawl the streets for customers" (my original words) is NOT a whore (maybe a slut, but not a whore).

Regards,

216 posted on 12/08/2022 7:35:41 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: z3n
It’s not rot. It’s not decay. It’s corrosion!

No, it's rot.

America has always been subjected to outside evil forces (your words: active agents) which have attempted to attack our core values, undermine our fundamental principles, etc.

The difference being: We are now inviting our attackers in / welcoming them with open arms / smugly viewing ourselves as "morally superior" and "virtuous" when we agree with our detractors..

Regards,

217 posted on 12/08/2022 7:41:01 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek
I was using a de minimis as a contrast to your ad absurdum.
218 posted on 12/08/2022 7:45:10 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Jonty30

You are delusional if you think a library is going to replace a book they would eventually censor.

Go buy the damn book yourself.


219 posted on 12/08/2022 8:48:14 AM PST by Cold Heart ("Miracle Grow for tumors")
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To: alexander_busek
Many mainstream churches interpret that Biblical passage as referring rather to the Second Coming...

Not saying the above doesn't apply as well. Much meaning is condensed/locked away in scripture. His words to those that heard them that day were days later truly fulfilled in the simplest of minds.

If you wish to interpret deeper meaning, consider also if He is speaking of physical or spiritual death, or both.

I believe His words that day addressed all of the above.

220 posted on 12/08/2022 9:01:30 AM PST by amorphous
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