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8 billion people: How different the world would look if Neanderthals had prevailed
Phys dot org ^ | November 17, 2022 | Penny Spikins, The Conversation

Posted on 11/20/2022 7:08:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv

In evolutionary terms, the human population has rocketed in seconds. The news that it has now reached 8 billion seems inexplicable when you think about our history.

For 99% of the last million years of our existence, people rarely came across other humans. There were only around 10,000 Neanderthals living at any one time. Today, there are around 800,000 people in the same space that was occupied by one Neanderthal. What's more, since humans live in social groups, the next nearest Neanderthal group was probably well over 100km away. Finding a mate outside your own family was a challenge.

Neanderthals were more inclined to stay in their family groups and were warier of new people. If they had outcompeted our own species (Homo sapiens), the density of population would likely be far lower. It's hard to imagine them building cities, for example, given that they were genetically disposed to being less friendly to those beyond their immediate family.

The reasons for our dramatic population growth may lie in the early days of Homo sapiens more than 100,000 years ago. Genetic and anatomical differences between us and extinct species such as Neanderthals made us more similar to domesticated animal species. Large herds of cows, for example, can better tolerate the stress of living in a small space together than their wild ancestors who lived in small groups, spaced apart. These genetic differences changed our attitudes to people outside our own group. We became more tolerant.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; population
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Based on estimates by the History Database of the Global Environment and the UN.
Credit: Max Roser, CC BY-SA
Credit: Max Roser, CC BY-SA

1 posted on 11/20/2022 7:08:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Wow, what a moronic hit piece this is.
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
"Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
KEYWORDS: neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals

2 posted on 11/20/2022 7:11:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well, the women would be uglier...


3 posted on 11/20/2022 7:11:23 PM PST by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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To: All
Like downtown Compton.

Too soon?


4 posted on 11/20/2022 7:13:09 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: SunkenCiv

There is no year zero. It goes from 1 B.C. to 1 A.D.

I also don’t like that absolute certainty unknowables like “How many neanderthals were on the earth 12,000 years ago are asserted.


5 posted on 11/20/2022 7:13:12 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: SunkenCiv

Can we have that plotted on semi log paper?


6 posted on 11/20/2022 7:13:14 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SunkenCiv

7 posted on 11/20/2022 7:13:16 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: SunkenCiv
There were only around 10,000 Neanderthals living at any one time.

That's astonishing...IF true. How could they determine that?

I'm not a big fan of crowds. I go out of my way to avoid crowds. One of my DNA tests tells me I have more Neanderthal DNA than 75% of their customers. I wonder if there's a linkage there?

You might have seen me in the commercials...


8 posted on 11/20/2022 7:14:10 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!)
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To: bagster

Nope.


9 posted on 11/20/2022 7:16:05 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Adder

...a face only another Neanderthal could love!


10 posted on 11/20/2022 7:16:14 PM PST by null and void (Cujo would have been a very short story if the family owned a gun!)
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To: Larry Lucido

I miss Phil Hartman.


11 posted on 11/20/2022 7:17:47 PM PST by EEGator
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To: SunkenCiv

Remember how uptight and scared liberals were some 20 years ago when it reached 6 BIL?

Magazine covers and all.

Not that it was a cool milestone, but a fearful prospect.

Everything to liberals is fearful, except any government interference.


12 posted on 11/20/2022 7:18:47 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV)
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To: SunkenCiv

Just come to DC and see for yourself...


13 posted on 11/20/2022 7:19:19 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperatly need him)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They were easily the best Geicocommercials. Loved it!


14 posted on 11/20/2022 7:19:50 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“I also don’t like that absolute certainty unknowables like “How many neanderthals were on the earth 12,000 years ago are asserted.”

I take most archeological “facts” (assertions) with a pound of salt.


15 posted on 11/20/2022 7:24:14 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: SunkenCiv

wait, what about the world wide flood?


16 posted on 11/20/2022 7:28:26 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: SunkenCiv

Neanderthals were more inclined to

/\

How the hell would you know ?

Where you there ?

So tired of these morons insulting our common sense intelligence.

They weren’t there
They have no possible way of knowing anything they were ‘ inclined’ to do.

Spit.


17 posted on 11/20/2022 7:29:29 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: EEGator
Me too.


18 posted on 11/20/2022 7:30:49 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: SunkenCiv

19 posted on 11/20/2022 7:34:38 PM PST by BipolarBob (I was born into this world with nothing . . and I still have most of it .)
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To: Karliner

That’s a story, not real.


20 posted on 11/20/2022 7:38:23 PM PST by EEGator
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