Posted on 06/22/2022 7:37:13 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
Men with higher intakes of dairy foods, especially milk, face a significantly higher risk of prostate cancer compared to men with lower intakes, according to a new study. The study found no such associations between increased prostate cancer risk and intake of non-dairy calcium, suggesting substances other than calcium play a role in the risk dairy foods poses for prostate cancer.
The study's results reveal that men who consumed about 430 grams of dairy per day (1 ¾ cups of milk) faced a 25% increased risk of prostate cancer compared to men who consumed only 20.2 grams of dairy per day (1/2 cup of milk per week). Also, men who consumed about 430 grams of dairy per day faced an even greater increase in risk when compared to men with zero dairy intake in their diets.
"Most of the continuing increase in risk is done with by the time you get to 150 grams, about two-thirds of a cup of milk per day," Fraser said. "It's almost as if some biological or biochemical pathway is saturated at about two-thirds of a cup of milk per day."
Fraser said the possible reasons for these associations between prostate cancer and dairy milk might be the sex hormone content of dairy milk. Up to 75% of lactating dairy cows are pregnant, and prostate cancer is a hormone-responsive cancer. Further, prior reports have associated intake of dairy and other animal proteins with higher blood levels of a hormone, insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1), which is thought to promote certain cancers, including prostate.
A prior study from Adventist Health Study-2 about the effects of dairy on breast cancer risk in women reported similar results both in the non-uniform risk with increased consumption levels and in the magnitude of risk, Fraser said.
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Dairy is the worst food for an adult that wants to avoid hormone related cancer. It feeds two metabolic pathways a tumor needs: mTOR and the IGF. My hack: whipping cream and butter. Neither have protein.
The Adventists are vegetarians-don’t believe them.
I have the same suspicion.
Being a skeptic and a cynic today is the most appropriate and sane attitude.
Does this apply to the consumption of cheese products? From what I find, it does not.
Does that mean I can finish your ice cream?
Over a year ago my partner with recently diagnosed prostate cancer stopped drinking milk and eating breakfast cereal. Now he uses Almond Milk, buys cheap supermarket pizzas, and adds cut up vegetables and sliced supermarket slabs of cheese like Colby, Monterrey Jack, and Chedder (American factory cheeses), and a dash of Catsup or Barbacue Sauce. His genetic heritage is Swedish. I am wondering if cheap factory cheese might cause the same problems as standard processed pasturized milk?
I go to Trader Joes or Whole Foods and buy more expensive often imported varietal cheeses. Several of my direct recent ancestors grew up on dairy farms and I really like milk and need quite a lot of Calcium. Should I persuade him to use that kind of cheese instead or does it matter.
I am also trying to get him away from cheap white flour pizza. Instead I am making home made tomatoe sauce with some bottled sauce, plus cut up tomatoes, colored bell peppers, and onion, fried in olive oil, the tomado sauce added, and ten minutes before finished adding vegetables like broccoli flowers, green peas, and or asparagus slices. I make brown rice, or whole grain spaghetti to put it on. He also eats a lot of Harris Teeter vanilla yoghurt. His PSA when tested was above 20. Any more diet and nutrition ideas out there?
I doubt the study... Seems contrived for a reason.
I drink a ton of milk myself.. always have and a huge fan of cheese and ice cream!
Always important to know the exact numbers involved.
About 11% of men are diagnosed with prostate cancer.
So, your increased risk from a total population perspective is just in the 3%-4% range.
If I had cancer, I would do my best to do keto. I already do low carb so it’s not a big jump for me. It has turned my husband’s health around completely.
If your friend was amenable, you can use spaghetti squash as a sub for pasta, and there’s all kinds of vegetable noodles as well. But I would definitely be trying to incorporate meat, protein and fat into the diet.
Dr. Westman on keto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_bdziQZS98
Is his blood glucose and/or insulin above normal? A low carb diet woukd be very important to stop glucose and insulin issues. Also, does he take a zinc or lycopene supplement? Lycopene is in tomato paste.
Prostate cancer cells are deficient in zinc and lycopene
More on zinc:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fonc.2020.01293/full
Lycopene:
https://www.cancernetwork.com/view/lycopene-intake-linked-lower-risk-aggressive-prostate-cancer
I take two Lyc-o-mato capsules a day (30 mg) and about 40 mg total of zinc a day. The zinc supplement I have recently been taking is zinc picolinate, which is better absorbed by tissues (according to an older study), but I also get some zinc bisglycinate chelate from a multimineral. Going close to 100 mg/day increases prostate cancer risk, while 40 mg is the Upper Tolerable Limit, despite the AREDS 2 eye formula having 80 mg of zinc (but zinc oxide, which does not enter cells as well). If taking higher zinc, be sure to balance it with a bit of copper, as original AREDS (1) users were found to have copper deficiency issues about three years down the road.
Magnolia bark extract can be helpful. I have this, but seldom take it. Some information on it, here:
https://prostate.net/magnolia-bark-contains-prostate-cancer-fighter/
DIM (Diindolylmethane) might be helpful. I do take this for BPH.
https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/herbs/diindolylmethane
I also take nettle root extract (Solaray) for BPH, but it appears to have a benefit for prostate cancer, too:
I also take pygeum (again, Solaray), and this has been found to reduce prostate cancer:
https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/herbs/pygeum
I also take about 500 mg of curcumin (Doctor’s Best S3 curcumin) a day (1,000 mg split in half), and this is shown to help BPH and prostate cancer:
https://www.mdpi.com/2218-273X/10/11/1536/htm
On the zinc, quercetin might be helpful in its role as a zinc ionophore, so taking any form of zinc with that should make them be better absorbed.
Do note these things could affect, or be affected by, current medications he is taking, so they should be run past his doctor.
Used to be a YUGE cow milk drinker.
I quit. We haven’t had cow milk in our refrigerator in a few years now.
We use Almond Milk. I like the unsweetened with vanilla.
It keeps Wayyyy longer than cows milk.
While Almond Milk costs a little bit more, because of spoilage with cows milk, Almond Milk easily makes up that difference.
Great Value Almond Milk 3.7 cents per fl. oz. (1/2 gallon size)
Great Value whole milk 3.0 cents per fl. oz. (1/2 gallon size)
You don’t have to smell your Almond Milk before you drink it.
Does it taste like cows milk? NO, it tastes like ALMOND milk.
Given the hypothesized importance of these factors in cancer control, these findings suggest that these diets may slow cancer growth. Indeed, we have previously shown in two independent xenograft studies that mice consuming NCKD (Keto) have slower tumor growth and an increase in overall survival compared with mice consuming a Western diet.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3757152/
Also, boron can help reduce PSA and prostate cancer risk, by quite a bit:
https://www.bensnaturalhealth.com/blog/boron-lowers-prostate-cancer-risk/
20 mg a day is the Upper Tolerable Limit, but I haven't gone over 12 mg at any point of my supplementation, and I currently take around 9 mg a day from various sources.
Multiple studies have been done on boron, with some of them listed here:
Pages 42-43 in the journal cover prostate cancer, but this quote comes from that area:
In this study, 2 groups with 10 animals per group were dosed with boric-acid solutions (1.7, 9.0 mg boron/kg/d) by gavage. The control group received only water. Tumor sizes were measured weekly for 8 weeks. The size of tumors decreased in mice exposed to the low and high dose of boric acid by 38% and 25%, respectively. Serum PSA levels for the two dosages decreased by 88.6% and 86.4%, respectively, compared with the control group. In boron-dosed animals, a significantly lower incidence of mitotic figures, the term used in cellular pathology to describe the microscopic appearance of a cell undergoing mitosis, was seen. Circulating IGF-1 levels did not differ among groups, but expression of IGF-1 in the tumors was significantly reduced by boron treatment.
What that says is that they tested 1.7 mg of boron per kg of weight against 7 mg per kg of weight and the lower amount did better. That would be, as an example, 102 mg of boron for a 132 pound man. For myself, I'd probably just try 20 mg a day and see what happens. Again, that is the Upper Tolerable Limit. ConsumerLab says doses of 25 mg have caused indigestion and dermatitis “over an extended period of time.”
I know there are other supplements that can help, but these should be a good start.
Sorry, I mistyped “7” for “9” mg in the boron study, with 9 mg/kg a day being the high dose, not 7.
How does raw milk from grass fed cows fare in these studies.
I would go to the Weston E Price website and read up. Lots of free articles. Eat organic, raw fairy if possible and organic from a respected local farm. Grocery organic might not be totally free from chemicals that could cause health issues. Cheap grocery items, things with more than 5 or 6 (guide line number) natural ingredients or ingredients you cant pronounce aren’t good for you. Farms similar to Amos Miller in PA are good. You want beef grass fed and finished. As little grain and soy as possible fed to your chickens and pork. Use farm bought lard and raw butter and raw A2 milk. Milk info can be had at realmilk.com
I'd always thought "poison" was "in the dosage", but this seems to be saying no matter how much milk you drink, the first 2/3 cup sets up the harmful odds, after that it doesn't make a big difference.
But that aside, like the old Rick O'Shay comic character Maverick, it's probably wise to pay heed to the saying "Moderation in All Things".
My favorite non-flour pasta is quinoa based. Tried spaghetti squash as a substitute - it was ok ... once. The diet you described sounds like it's leaning toward "alkaline", with the biggest offender being the white flour (which is the item you hope your partner gets away from).
My urologist, a pioneer in the old robotic surgery for prostate cancer, pooh-poohed any benefit from any particular diet, but in my experience, not eating some foods that are generally recognized to more stressful on the body, like refined sugar, DOES make a difference.
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